Abraham Abraham, whose birth name was Abram, is the eponym of the Abrahamic religions, among which are Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Wikipedia Born: Ur Kasdim Died: Cave of the Patriarchs Children: Isaac, Ishmael, Midian, Jokshan, Shuah, Zimran, Medan, Ishbak Siblings: Haran, Nahor Parents: Edna, Terah FeedbackFeedback ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@verizon.net> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions > / > > Family of Abraham: > > http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/History-Abraham.htm > > / > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@verizon.net> > To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions > > >> / >> >> Midianites: >> >> an Arabian tribe descended from Midian, a son of Abraham >> >> http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10804-midian-and-midianites >> >> >> What about God's cruelty against the Midianites? >> >> http://christianthinktank.com/midian.html >> >> >> http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/midianite.html >> >> >> >> Why were only the virgins left alive among the Midianites ... >> >> >> http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/why-were-only-virgins-left-alive-among-midianites >> >> a.. a.. a.. a.. a.. >> a.. The Bible's Most Hideous War Crime - Slate Magazine >> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/blogging_the_bible/features/2006/the_complete_book_of_numbers/the_bibles_most_hideous_war_crime.html >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@verizon.net> >> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions >> >> >>> Midian (Hebrew: ????????), Madyan (Arabic: ?????), or Madiam (Greek: >>> ??????, ?????????? for a Midianite) is a geographical place and a >>> people mentioned in the Bible and in the Qur'an. William G. Dever >>> suggests it was located in the "northwest Arabian Peninsula, on the >>> east shore of the Gulf of Aqaba on the Red Sea (the "Hejaz") "[1] >>> Some scholars believe it to be somewhere in or around Sudan[2] as >>> the Bible does not make direct mention of its location.[3][4] >>> >>> Some scholars say it was not a geographical area but a league of >>> tribes.[5] We are also told that Midian was a son of Abraham.[6] >>> >>> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@verizon.net> >>> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions >>> >>> >>>> / >>>> >>>> >>>> Ethnic cleaning in the Bible: >>>> >>>> http://whatisitwithjesus.blogspot.com/2007/11/ethnic-cleansing-in-bible.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Aida Kraus >>>> To: Laurence Krupnak ; german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:17 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions >>>> >>>> >>>> Just came back home and I find reading your postings very >>>> interesting, because the Germanophobia seemed to have preceded Anti >>>> Semitism. And the following sentenceI found was a revelation, >>>> because we were lead to believe that the "final solution idea" was >>>> a German invention. But obviously it was not? Because it is stated >>>> among others that >>>> "In 1941, the book Germany Must Perish! advocated the >>>> sterilization of all Germans and the territorial dismemberment of >>>> Germany." >>>> So looking at the date and all the other Germanophobic >>>> expressions voiced long before then, it was obviously not even an >>>> invention of the Nazi Regime. >>>> .It seems that during hundreds of years such opinionated and >>>> politically motivated people made not only their own hell on this >>>> earth, but also for everyone else. I bet that the average citizen, >>>> regardless where he lived, England, Russia, Germany, France and >>>> Austria and everywhere around there wanted not more and no less but >>>> the same as his compatriot in another country. Which essentially >>>> is to make a living, raise their kids, and be left in peace. So >>>> one seems to ask then "and who is benefiting from such hate >>>> mongering? The manufacturers of weapons?" Were "we the people of >>>> the world" never ever able to state OUR side of values? >>>> In my humble and very unimportant opinion, the upgraded >>>> development of good diplomacy would be a gem in the crown of >>>> humanity. >>>> Aida >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Laurence Krupnak >>>> <LKrupnak@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Where have all the flowers gone: >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqTf8DU6a0&feature=related >>>> >>>> >>>> _____ >>>> >>>> Lavrentiy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Laurence Krupnak >>>> >>>> To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:45 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jack wrote in part: >>>> >>>> >>>> As the song by Pete Seeger goes, when Will they ever learn? >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> >>>> Mankind will never learn. >>>> >>>> One objective of studying history is to teach us to not repeat >>>> horrible things. Studying history demonstrates that mankind never >>>> changes his ways. >>>> >>>> _______ >>>> >>>> Lavrentiy >>>> >>>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >