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    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. / Ethnic cleaning in the Bible: http://whatisitwithjesus.blogspot.com/2007/11/ethnic-cleansing-in-bible.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Aida Kraus To: Laurence Krupnak ; german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions Just came back home and I find reading your postings very interesting, because the Germanophobia seemed to have preceded Anti Semitism. And the following sentenceI found was a revelation, because we were lead to believe that the "final solution idea" was a German invention. But obviously it was not? Because it is stated among others that "In 1941, the book Germany Must Perish! advocated the sterilization of all Germans and the territorial dismemberment of Germany." So looking at the date and all the other Germanophobic expressions voiced long before then, it was obviously not even an invention of the Nazi Regime. .It seems that during hundreds of years such opinionated and politically motivated people made not only their own hell on this earth, but also for everyone else. I bet that the average citizen, regardless where he lived, England, Russia, Germany, France and Austria and everywhere around there wanted not more and no less but the same as his compatriot in another country. Which essentially is to make a living, raise their kids, and be left in peace. So one seems to ask then "and who is benefiting from such hate mongering? The manufacturers of weapons?" Were "we the people of the world" never ever able to state OUR side of values? In my humble and very unimportant opinion, the upgraded development of good diplomacy would be a gem in the crown of humanity. Aida On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Laurence Krupnak <LKrupnak@verizon.net> wrote: Where have all the flowers gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqTf8DU6a0&feature=related _____ Lavrentiy ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Krupnak To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions Jack wrote in part: As the song by Pete Seeger goes, when Will they ever learn? ********** Mankind will never learn. One objective of studying history is to teach us to not repeat horrible things. Studying history demonstrates that mankind never changes his ways. _______ Lavrentiy German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2012 02:24:17
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. Midian (Hebrew: ????????), Madyan (Arabic: ?????), or Madiam (Greek: ??????, ?????????? for a Midianite) is a geographical place and a people mentioned in the Bible and in the Qur'an. William G. Dever suggests it was located in the "northwest Arabian Peninsula, on the east shore of the Gulf of Aqaba on the Red Sea (the "Hejaz") "[1] Some scholars believe it to be somewhere in or around Sudan[2] as the Bible does not make direct mention of its location.[3][4] Some scholars say it was not a geographical area but a league of tribes.[5] We are also told that Midian was a son of Abraham.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@verizon.net> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions > / > > > Ethnic cleaning in the Bible: > > http://whatisitwithjesus.blogspot.com/2007/11/ethnic-cleansing-in-bible.html > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Aida Kraus > To: Laurence Krupnak ; german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions > > > Just came back home and I find reading your postings very > interesting, because the Germanophobia seemed to have preceded Anti > Semitism. And the following sentenceI found was a revelation, > because we were lead to believe that the "final solution idea" was a > German invention. But obviously it was not? Because it is stated > among others that > "In 1941, the book Germany Must Perish! advocated the sterilization > of all Germans and the territorial dismemberment of Germany." > So looking at the date and all the other Germanophobic > expressions voiced long before then, it was obviously not even an > invention of the Nazi Regime. > .It seems that during hundreds of years such opinionated and > politically motivated people made not only their own hell on this > earth, but also for everyone else. I bet that the average citizen, > regardless where he lived, England, Russia, Germany, France and > Austria and everywhere around there wanted not more and no less but > the same as his compatriot in another country. Which essentially is > to make a living, raise their kids, and be left in peace. So one > seems to ask then "and who is benefiting from such hate mongering? > The manufacturers of weapons?" Were "we the people of the world" > never ever able to state OUR side of values? > In my humble and very unimportant opinion, the upgraded > development of good diplomacy would be a gem in the crown of humanity. > Aida > > > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Laurence Krupnak > <LKrupnak@verizon.net> wrote: > > Where have all the flowers gone: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqTf8DU6a0&feature=related > > > _____ > > Lavrentiy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurence Krupnak > > To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Expulsion discussions > > > > Jack wrote in part: > > > As the song by Pete Seeger goes, when Will they ever learn? > > ********** > > Mankind will never learn. > > One objective of studying history is to teach us to not repeat > horrible things. Studying history demonstrates that mankind never > changes his ways. > > _______ > > Lavrentiy > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2012 02:29:50