Mark, I THINK a cottager is a man who has a small cottage & a small plot of land, enough to grow food for his family & maybe have a cow for milk. Couldn't find my notes to verify. A cottager wouldn't have had many possessions, but his family would have been able to survive. Hope this helps. Judy Anchorage On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Mark Lieber <marklieber1@gmail.com> wrote: > Aida, > > I have been following conversations on this site for several weeks. I have > found them > very informative. This particular one is of interest to me. My great > grandfather, Wenzl > Lieber was from Rochlov, Bohemia. It is just west of Plzen. I had the > opportunity > to visit the village in 2010. But the language barrier posed a BIG > problem. I did see that > there was a "castle" in this small village. Wenzl was a miner. Could it > be that this castle > was the home of a nobleman l that employed him as a miner? > > Also, his father Petr Lieber lived across the lane from him. Records > indicated that he was > a "cottage dweller". What does that actually mean? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aida Kraus <birchbaylady@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Go to page 367 where you can see that they have most of their Forestry > > personnel listed by name. There is one area called "Peter and Paul" and > > there may have been a farm called "Peterhof".... Also look at the names > > under "Maierhof" to possibly find this Peterhof. The Nobility ran their > > agriculture like a multiple economy and they had a large staff over > several > > very large Maierhofs which are country estates at best. They either had > it > > run by family, or they leased it out, or had a manager run it for them. > > Besides that, the nobility had industrial interests in the area, as they > > developed mining, glass blowing, porcelain factories, etc. just run it > > through the translator and you will see their revenue diversification. > > Forest and Wildlife was a HUGE resource for them in Bohemia. > > > > Link: > > > > > http://books.google.com/books?id=ugIEAAAAMAAJ&printsec=titlepage&dq=%22topografisch+statistischer%22+schematismus+des+grossgrundbesitzes+im+koenigreiche+bohmen#v=onepage&q=%22topografisch%20statistischer%22%20schematismus%20des%20grossgrundbesitzes%20im%20koenigreiche%20bohmen&f=false > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:23 AM, <idirlion@me.com> wrote: > > > > > Sorry, all I have is this as his occupation: > > > > > > Furstlich Schwarzenbergischer Fasanjager Zu Peterhof In Bohmen > > > > > > I understand the German. > > > > > > Does this help? > > > > > > best, > > > Paul > > > > > > On Dé Luain, 6 Feabhra, 2012, at 07:12, Aida Kraus wrote: > > > > > > > Do you know the village name where this Peterhof was located, because > > > there > > > > are several by that name? It might lead us to your family names in > > the > > > > church registers which are partially archived in the Plzn (Pilsen) > > > archives > > > > and which you can access from your home computer. > > > > Aida > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:20 AM, <idirlion@me.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> My great-granddad was born in Austria 1883 (Laa an der Thaya), and I > > > have > > > >> his birth record, but my family tree says that his parents came from > > > >> Bohemia (Peterhof 1826 and Budweiss 1855). > > > >> > > > >> Are any of these records online? > > > >> > > > >> Or do I need to order everything through the LDS? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> Paul > > > >> Oregon > > > >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > >> ------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > >> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >> > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >