Thanks for looking all that up! Yes, I had also found those same census records myself and came to those same conclusions that there could be other children in other areas. I don't think I've ever found any other "Wohlmans, Wollman's Wallman's Woolman's etc" in Huron County of that time. However, I suppose it's possible their children were married daughters in which case their surnames would all be different. I believe their country of origin was once stated as Germany, Austria and Bohemia all at different times. As for church, my great grand mother Antonia married Henry Klug who was a Lutheran and they apparently must have attended a Rock Falls Church in Ruth, Micigan. Henry Klug was buried at Rock Falls Cemetary. Antonia was buried at a different cemetary through Sawyer Funeral home in Royal Oak. I think her cemetary was White Chapel in Troy, Michigan. I don't think there is any data other than the names of her parents found from those sources. The hunt continues! Thanks, Pam >From: "Linda Therkelsen" <lindatherkela@msn.com> >Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family - census >Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:49:43 -0500 > >Okay, I started with a quick look at census, found them in both 1880 and >1900 without problem. I see Henry, Barbara, Antonia, and Emma living in >White Rock Village in Huron County in 1880, ages 43, 40, 16 and 5. So >Antonia is right on, but as is typical in census, ages can be off for >adults. By this, Emma would not have been 5 when she immigrated if they >came in 1878. The name is spelled Wollman in this census. In 1900, it is >spelled Woolman, the parents live in Sherman in Huron County. In 1900 get >Henry b. Oct. 1833, Barbara b. Oct. 1837, probably more accurate. >Immigration 1878, and he has papers applied for. So-- there probably is >Declaration of Intent to find for him. That could be useful, especially >after 1900. She is mother of 6, 5 living. Okay! We have some more >children to find. They are probably older than Antonia, so at the 1880 >census, they were married off, or working on another farm, or something >like that; or adult children may not have immigrated.! > She was probably oldest child still at home. > >Well, I would definitely get EVERYBODY's obituaries in a local newspaper, >and see the mention of other children or siblings. And looks for boys >named similar spelling in county or nearby. And look through church >records for Catholic churches in that county and nearby for marriages of >other children. > >Note that in 1880 census, origin is listed as Germany and in 1900 Austria. >This is very common with German-Bohemians, you see this all over (my >families show Germany, Bohemia, and Austria for the very same family, too, >and I do know where they're from). Bohemia was part of the >Austro-Hungarian Empire at the time of immigration, so Austria shows up a >lot. >Linda > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? >To search the archives, go to: >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN >

Do you have death dates for the parents? You really need to get all the obituaries. By age, it is possible that Barbara could have had children AFTER 1880. And, that they could be married by 1900. As I recall, Michigan has state census in 1884 and 1894. I would ABSOLUTELY get those census records. You will have to follow every clue, from every child and sib. Do you have Antonia's obit? If she was one of the older children, then perhaps most of the sibs survived her. If one of the sibs was married in a Catholic church, you may have better luck. Whether or not they intended to spell it Wohlman, it matters how OTHER record keepers messed it up. And we all know, they misspell names in very creative ways! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: PJ V<mailto:netkitty@hotmail.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family - census Thanks for looking all that up! Yes, I had also found those same census records myself and came to those same conclusions that there could be other children in other areas. I don't think I've ever found any other "Wohlmans, Wollman's Wallman's Woolman's etc" in Huron County of that time. However, I suppose it's possible their children were married daughters in which case their surnames would all be different. I believe their country of origin was once stated as Germany, Austria and Bohemia all at different times. As for church, my great grand mother Antonia married Henry Klug who was a Lutheran and they apparently must have attended a Rock Falls Church in Ruth, Micigan. Henry Klug was buried at Rock Falls Cemetary. Antonia was buried at a different cemetary through Sawyer Funeral home in Royal Oak. I think her cemetary was White Chapel in Troy, Michigan. I don't think there is any data other than the names of her parents found from those sources. The hunt continues! Thanks, Pam >From: "Linda Therkelsen" <lindatherkela@msn.com<mailto:lindatherkela@msn.com>> >Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family - census >Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:49:43 -0500 > >Okay, I started with a quick look at census, found them in both 1880 and >1900 without problem. I see Henry, Barbara, Antonia, and Emma living in >White Rock Village in Huron County in 1880, ages 43, 40, 16 and 5. So >Antonia is right on, but as is typical in census, ages can be off for >adults. By this, Emma would not have been 5 when she immigrated if they >came in 1878. The name is spelled Wollman in this census. In 1900, it is >spelled Woolman, the parents live in Sherman in Huron County. In 1900 get >Henry b. Oct. 1833, Barbara b. Oct. 1837, probably more accurate. >Immigration 1878, and he has papers applied for. So-- there probably is >Declaration of Intent to find for him. That could be useful, especially >after 1900. She is mother of 6, 5 living. Okay! We have some more >children to find. They are probably older than Antonia, so at the 1880 >census, they were married off, or working on another farm, or something >like that; or adult children may not have immigrated.! > She was probably oldest child still at home. > >Well, I would definitely get EVERYBODY's obituaries in a local newspaper, >and see the mention of other children or siblings. And looks for boys >named similar spelling in county or nearby. And look through church >records for Catholic churches in that county and nearby for marriages of >other children. > >Note that in 1880 census, origin is listed as Germany and in 1900 Austria. >This is very common with German-Bohemians, you see this all over (my >families show Germany, Bohemia, and Austria for the very same family, too, >and I do know where they're from). Bohemia was part of the >Austro-Hungarian Empire at the time of immigration, so Austria shows up a >lot. >Linda > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? >To search the archives, go to: >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To browse the archives, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/>