To John Mileska: At our Family Research Center no data is accepted that has not been verified against the source. I do not know how Centers in other places are working, but I am very impressed with the help and knowledge of the volunteer people working there. So far, I have not run into any problems with their data, except that people are writing down the country for a birthplace, for instance, that did not even exist. For instance, an ancestor was born in Bohemia in 1850 at Marienbad, Austria Hungary. But what I find is this. John Doe, born 1850, Marianske Lazne, Czechoslovakia or even Czech Republic while that country did not even exist in 1850. The descendants will never find anything in Czech records because all the original records are in German. Even Czech genealogists have to learn German to read them. Perhaps they are now translating the original German records into Czech??? Now here is another: Jack Doe, born 1890, Temesburg, Banat, Rumania which was Hungary then and their records were in German, because the country still belonged to Austria Hungary and their official language was German while their international language was French (like English now) and you still can find the French language on the old passports of our ancestors from Austria Hungary. It could very well be that I have an outdated FTM because the subsorting into different kind of family trees never came out right and sometimes collapsed after 600 individual entries with their pictures and notes. The name saving of the Tree under "save as" was not accepted under a "specific name," unless you used their various codes, and then, finding out what is listed within the code you had to open it to see what it was. Or you had to make a note of it to yourself so you knew what was in this file. It was just too frustrating to go over the same thing again and again. At least the FTM now allows to convert to GED which was not possible a few years ago. I have uninstalled the FTM because now I am just working on my own pedigree for which the PAF is much easier. Although I am not a member of the Mormon church, I have only the very best experience with all of them, and I feel that a central depository is the absolute correct way to go. I have never been approached to become a member of their church, I have gotten all the help I needed, there is always friendliness in a newly appointed FRC with brand new computers and a very congenial atmosphere to work in. I have been able to find a fortune of information in their databanks. It is just too bad that the only country not represented with microfilm availablity is the Czech Republic and you have to hire a Czech genealogist to actually look up the German records that should be under the ownership of the German public and not the Czech Goverment! You can get all the Danish, Swedish, French, Polish, English, Spanish, Italian, Swiss, German, Romanian, Hungarian, even Russian, Chinese, Japanese and Indian records in their handwriting..... but not the German records that are deposited in the Czech archives. Aida ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Mikeska" <jlmikeska@yahoo.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] FTM vs PAF > Aida, > > I'm curious of what "all sorts of problems" you found using FTM. Maybe > I'm missing something and if so, would like to know about it. I've looked > at PAF couple times in the past, and it didn't measure up to FTM, other > than being adapted to LDS input, if need be. PAF may have improved in the > past few years. Think you can put in more generations now, and printout > of trees is now supported. > > Nice to access other genealogist data, but I would not accept it as > 'gospel', for many people do not check out their data or provide > documentation. If you do not check it out and circulate the incorrect > data, spreads the incorrect information further. > > > Aida Kraus <akibb1@verizon.net> wrote: > To: Herbert Schwarz > I am no longer working with the Family Tree Maker because I found all > sorts of problems. I am now using the Personal Ancestry File disk from the > LDS which is available for $5.00. You can data-input all your document > information onto this disk and send it to the PAF bank at the Salt Lake > City > Archives. In this way all your information on your disk will be stored at > the Salt Lake City archives and these are accessible to your progeny for > all > times to come. You do not have to be a member of the Mormon Church to > access their archives. Since they have a base inventory of 21 Million > ancestors from all over the world, I was able to connect to some older > branches of my family which were already on file and were researched by > someone else who had also deposited their information at the LDS archives. > If everyone would use this source, we could combine all our efforts and > avoid a lot of duplicate work. In some cases I was able to continue back > to > 1616. In other words, it is a depository for all our research to be shared > by everyone for very little expense. > Aida > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Herbert Schwarz" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] FW: Now Complete: 140 Years of U.S. Census > Records > > >>A general comment to list members. Having just purchased the 2006, latest >>edition of "Family Tree Maker" ( 15th). 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Hello Aida, You wrote in part: > It is just too bad that the only country not represented with microfilm > availablity is the Czech Republic and you have to hire a Czech genealogist > to actually look up the German records that should be under the ownership > of the German public and not the Czech Goverment! ******* The above is not true regarding only Czech Republic preventing LDS from microfilming records. Why should Bohemian records be given to German government archives? Bohemia is not in Germany. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak .