I just read the name in the subject, and in that case it would be JAKUBIC for the male or family name, with a "hacek" on the c^. The person Barbara with the "ova" on the end of her surname would be of Czech nationality, Germans did not use it. But then Barbara would be Barbora. Winkler is German. Try all the combination is my suggestion at these following web sites: Name search: http://www.familysearch.org/ www.geneanet.com Aida ------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Barbara Jakubickova > Barbara, > > JaKobikova is the femenine form of a Czech surname. Any living relatives > in > the USA may be using the masculine form which may be Jakobikski or > something > similar. It is difficult to know if the Czech name was used by a German > family or it it means that her husband was an ethnic Czech whose first > language > was Czech. > > If it is the Winkler surname you are researching you may find other > Winklers > in the US. You might start with the SSDI at Rootsweb.com to see more > recent > references to Winklers in the US. Or go to familysearch.org and try a > seach > with both surnames with the home page search engine. Look for Winklers > in > Wisconsin, MN, Missouri, Texas, maybe Ohio and PA and in Canada. > > Also go the the library catalog and do a surname search with both surnames > to > learn if anyone has submitted a family tree including either. Not all > hits > will be German -- some may be English. One way to guess would be from > the > names of spouses in the oldest generations. It they are German there is > a > chance the Winkler was also German, not English. > > Or just go to Swiitchboard.com or AnyWho.com and do a search on both > surnames > in the states that you believe descendants would most likely be living. > > To find living Czechs with that name still living in the CR you may get > better help from the Czech-L list. They have list members living in CR > who do > lookups in the Czech white pages. > > If there is no one still living in CR with the name Winkler, you may find > a bunch of them in the German white pages. Maybe some of the German > members > of this list can tell you what in parts of Germany the ethnic Germans who > were expelled from the area around Sumperk settled. Then look for the > name > Winkler in those areas. > > Since you don't know if Jakobikova was the name of an ethnic German who > just > happened to have a Czech surname you might look for an sound alike name > for > that in Germany, too. > > With places of death and birth you should be able to get parish records > from > CR on both families. The records may take you forward in time with > births of > another generation or two until you reach those who were living in CZ in > 1945. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN >