Go to this website of the archives where instructions are given. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_crarch_en.html#ar and I am very glad that they supply records and microfilms again to individuals, or did you have special permission? It says here that it should be submitted in writing. Aida --------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ondracek" <dondra30@bellsouth.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF >I want to add my comments. You can go to the Czech Republic archives and > research records. Some records are on film therefore you can research the > film. Other records you can research the actual documents. How do I > know, > well I was over there in 2003 and again in 2006 and did spend some time in > the archives. I know first hand. Yes, I did have, on some days, someone > with me who could translate. But other times after I had made requests > for > certain documents I was able to find information whether in German or > Czech. > Not knowing the languages I can use my eyes, I can recognize names, places > and dates. I write down the page numbers of each document and ask for > copies to be made of those pages. I have found documents dating back to > 1656 for my relatives. > > It is not true that a US citizen cannot do research in the archives. > Czech > researchers can also do research in those same archives. > > I have been there, I have seen, I have 100's of copies of pages of > original > documents. > > By the way I have used Czech researchers also. Note, this last visit > May-June 2006 I was fortunate to have been approached by Miroslav > Koudelka, > had conversation with him and he did help me with some of my searching, > reading some german documents for me. > > Believe if one is to make comments, please do some research, relate facts, > not mis-information. > > Thanks, > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: KarenHob@aol.com [mailto:KarenHob@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:33 PM > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF > > In a message dated 6/24/2006 10:16:32 AM Mountain Standard Time, > cburk@kiva.net writes: > Now, as capitalism flourishes, it > seems some bureaucrat has found a way to keep some folks gainfully > employed > (i.e. off of their welfare system) by requiring folks like me to hire a > researcher (1 time) or visit their country as a tourist (4 times). > A lot of the professional researchers are otherwise employed. Karel > Kysilka > is and engineer and on the upper level diplomatic staff at the Czech > Embassy > > in Berlin. Miroslav Koudelka is a professor at Charles University in > Prague > last I heard. Jakob Smid is a lawyer in Brunn. There is another one who > lives in or near Olomouc whose name I cannot recall right now. I don't > know > if > research is his only work. > > Vladimir Bohnic is a professional researcher who makes his living doing > research. > > Actually, I'm surprised (but pleased) that more struggling economies don't > have a similar policy. > They just don't seem to understand the financial value of their records > and > the kind of income Archives could generate from them if they would "go for > it." > > All I hear on the academic lists if that the Czech archives are > understaffed > > and what staff there is is overworked. That is why it is taking so long > for > them to get their act together for genealogists. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN >

I have friends and relatives in the Czech Republic. It is my friends their that have really help me. They made the calls to the archives requesting documents I wanted to search. It is best if Czech friends or relatives make the request in Czech for you so the workers in the archives can get the documents before your arrival. Don -----Original Message----- From: Aida Kraus [mailto:akibb1@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:37 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Go to this website of the archives where instructions are given. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_crarch_en.html#ar and I am very glad that they supply records and microfilms again to individuals, or did you have special permission? It says here that it should be submitted in writing. Aida --------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ondracek" <dondra30@bellsouth.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF >I want to add my comments. You can go to the Czech Republic archives and > research records. Some records are on film therefore you can research the > film. Other records you can research the actual documents. How do I > know, > well I was over there in 2003 and again in 2006 and did spend some time in > the archives. I know first hand. Yes, I did have, on some days, someone > with me who could translate. But other times after I had made requests > for > certain documents I was able to find information whether in German or > Czech. > Not knowing the languages I can use my eyes, I can recognize names, places > and dates. I write down the page numbers of each document and ask for > copies to be made of those pages. I have found documents dating back to > 1656 for my relatives. > > It is not true that a US citizen cannot do research in the archives. > Czech > researchers can also do research in those same archives. > > I have been there, I have seen, I have 100's of copies of pages of > original > documents. > > By the way I have used Czech researchers also. Note, this last visit > May-June 2006 I was fortunate to have been approached by Miroslav > Koudelka, > had conversation with him and he did help me with some of my searching, > reading some german documents for me. > > Believe if one is to make comments, please do some research, relate facts, > not mis-information. > > Thanks, > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: KarenHob@aol.com [mailto:KarenHob@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:33 PM > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF > > In a message dated 6/24/2006 10:16:32 AM Mountain Standard Time, > cburk@kiva.net writes: > Now, as capitalism flourishes, it > seems some bureaucrat has found a way to keep some folks gainfully > employed > (i.e. off of their welfare system) by requiring folks like me to hire a > researcher (1 time) or visit their country as a tourist (4 times). > A lot of the professional researchers are otherwise employed. Karel > Kysilka > is and engineer and on the upper level diplomatic staff at the Czech > Embassy > > in Berlin. Miroslav Koudelka is a professor at Charles University in > Prague > last I heard. Jakob Smid is a lawyer in Brunn. There is another one who > lives in or near Olomouc whose name I cannot recall right now. I don't > know > if > research is his only work. > > Vladimir Bohnic is a professional researcher who makes his living doing > research. > > Actually, I'm surprised (but pleased) that more struggling economies don't > have a similar policy. > They just don't seem to understand the financial value of their records > and > the kind of income Archives could generate from them if they would "go for > it." > > All I hear on the academic lists if that the Czech archives are > understaffed > > and what staff there is is overworked. That is why it is taking so long > for > them to get their act together for genealogists. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

Aida, I looked at the link you make reference to, it says updated 2005. But I can't believe that as I do not know of any archives that are accepting requests through the mails for them to do research for you. Unless something has changed I do not know about. I was just over there in the Brno archive. Don -----Original Message----- From: Aida Kraus [mailto:akibb1@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:37 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Go to this website of the archives where instructions are given. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_crarch_en.html#ar and I am very glad that they supply records and microfilms again to individuals, or did you have special permission? It says here that it should be submitted in writing. Aida --------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ondracek" <dondra30@bellsouth.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF >I want to add my comments. You can go to the Czech Republic archives and > research records. Some records are on film therefore you can research the > film. Other records you can research the actual documents. How do I > know, > well I was over there in 2003 and again in 2006 and did spend some time in > the archives. I know first hand. Yes, I did have, on some days, someone > with me who could translate. But other times after I had made requests > for > certain documents I was able to find information whether in German or > Czech. > Not knowing the languages I can use my eyes, I can recognize names, places > and dates. I write down the page numbers of each document and ask for > copies to be made of those pages. I have found documents dating back to > 1656 for my relatives. > > It is not true that a US citizen cannot do research in the archives. > Czech > researchers can also do research in those same archives. > > I have been there, I have seen, I have 100's of copies of pages of > original > documents. > > By the way I have used Czech researchers also. Note, this last visit > May-June 2006 I was fortunate to have been approached by Miroslav > Koudelka, > had conversation with him and he did help me with some of my searching, > reading some german documents for me. > > Believe if one is to make comments, please do some research, relate facts, > not mis-information. > > Thanks, > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: KarenHob@aol.com [mailto:KarenHob@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:33 PM > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN FTM vs PAF > > In a message dated 6/24/2006 10:16:32 AM Mountain Standard Time, > cburk@kiva.net writes: > Now, as capitalism flourishes, it > seems some bureaucrat has found a way to keep some folks gainfully > employed > (i.e. off of their welfare system) by requiring folks like me to hire a > researcher (1 time) or visit their country as a tourist (4 times). > A lot of the professional researchers are otherwise employed. Karel > Kysilka > is and engineer and on the upper level diplomatic staff at the Czech > Embassy > > in Berlin. Miroslav Koudelka is a professor at Charles University in > Prague > last I heard. Jakob Smid is a lawyer in Brunn. There is another one who > lives in or near Olomouc whose name I cannot recall right now. I don't > know > if > research is his only work. > > Vladimir Bohnic is a professional researcher who makes his living doing > research. > > Actually, I'm surprised (but pleased) that more struggling economies don't > have a similar policy. > They just don't seem to understand the financial value of their records > and > the kind of income Archives could generate from them if they would "go for > it." > > All I hear on the academic lists if that the Czech archives are > understaffed > > and what staff there is is overworked. That is why it is taking so long > for > them to get their act together for genealogists. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/