Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia Settlements > > Hello Jo, > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > located. > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > during the 14-17th C. > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: >> >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement >> map, >> Lavrentiy? >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> >> >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in >> this >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How >> about the early 1900's? >> >> I appreciate any comments. >> >> Jo Davis > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Hello Aida, Good map of Austro-Hungarian Empire in Hungarian language: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif Galicia province is upper right side. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak aida kraus wrote: > > Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on > any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? > Aida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia > Settlements > > > > > Hello Jo, > > > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > > located. > > > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > > during the 14-17th C. > > > > _______ > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: > >> > >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement > >> map, > >> Lavrentiy? > >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > >> > >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in > >> this > >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How > >> about the early 1900's? > >> > >> I appreciate any comments. > >> > >> Jo Davis

Jo, The map shows the German settlement areas within Galicia province. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif Ne~met is German (in Magyar (Hungarian) language). Cseh = Czech Lengyel = Polish ruten = Ruthenian (Ukrainian) etc. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak Laurence Krupnak wrote: > > Hello Aida, > > Good map of Austro-Hungarian Empire in Hungarian language: > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif > > Galicia province is upper right side. > > ______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > aida kraus wrote: > > > > Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on > > any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? > > Aida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> > > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia > > Settlements > > > > > > > > Hello Jo, > > > > > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > > > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > > > located. > > > > > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > > > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > > > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > > > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > > > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > > > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > > > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > > > > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > > > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > > > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > > > > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > > > > > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > > > > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > > > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > > > during the 14-17th C. > > > > > > _______ > > > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: > > >> > > >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement > > >> map, > > >> Lavrentiy? > > >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > > >> > > >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in > > >> this > > >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How > > >> about the early 1900's? > > >> > > >> I appreciate any comments. > > >> > > >> Jo Davis

Folks, for what its worth, my 1880 Austrian Militaer Schematismus** shows the following Galician Infantry Regiments (IR’s): Note: This will help pinpoint places and identify what constituted Galicia in the 19th Century. * IR 9, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquartered in Olmuetz, Olomouc (Moravia) Recruiting district of STRYJ, Galicia. This IR was established in 1725. * IR 10, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters and Recruiting district in Przemysl, Galicia. This Regiment existed since 1745 * IR 13, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters and recruiting district Command in Krakau, (Krakov now Poland), established in 1640. * IR 15, Galizisches Infantry Regiment, Headquarters in Josephstadt, Recruiting district, Tarnopol. Regiments exist since 1701. * IR 20, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment , Headquarters in Vienna. Recruiting district Neu Sandec. Established in 1681. * IR 24, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Visegrad. Recruiting district of Kolomea. * IR 30, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headqarters and Recruiting district in Lemberg. Existed since 1723. * IR 45. Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquartered in Maglaj, Recruiting district Sanok. * IR 55, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Lemberg, Recruiting district Brzezan. * IR 56, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Krakau, Recruiting district Wadovice. * IR 57, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarter in Troppau (Opava, CR) Recruiting district Tarnov. * IR 58 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquarters in Vienna. Recruiting district Stanislau est. 1763. * IR 77 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquartered in Koeniggraetz (Hradec Kralove, CR) recruiting in Sambor. Est.1860 * IR 80 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquarters in Lemberg, Recruited in district Zlocsov. Cavalry 10th Galizisches Dragoner Regiment, HQ in Stuhlweissenburg and recruited from Tarnopol. 11th Galizisches Dragoner Regiment. HQ in Czegled, Recruitment district Sambor In addition there was a Galizisches Feld-Jaeger, Battallion with HQ in Jaroslau recruiting in the district of Stanislau. And at least 6 Galician Uhlanen Regiments (Lancers) with recruitment from the above districts. ** Note on the Military Schematismus. It is a 1000 page “Who was who” in the Army and Navy of the Dual Monarchy in the year published and lists names in the Regimental Command, right down to Lieutenants, Cadets, medical staff and regimental Accountants, but not the Ranks. The Kriegsarchiv (War Archive) in Vienna has all of the Schematisma on display for review by the public (years 1700’s – 1918) They are a rare commodity on the private market. If you can get one you will have to pay a steep price. My copy is a very fragile document. Our Karen Hobbs is familiar with it. If you need a look-up please ask, but only for specific (not general) questions, please. Frank . .. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 3/8/2006