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    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help
    2. aida kraus
    3. Paula, what you are probably referring to is the settlement in Galicia by German Bohemians in 1920 and then their return to Germany in 1940. Most of them were resettled in Westphalia. The first move to another country was in 1920 and was in protest because of forming a new country called Czechoslovakia out of part of their homeland which was Austria Hungary and thereby diminishing their German representation and rights in the newly created Czechoslovakian Country. The demonstrators were shot because Germans had no rights after the loss of WW1 and the newly formed Czech Republic (and Yugoslavia for that matter) had the full support of the Allied. There was a "rash" of emigration during that time and many left their ancient homeland. Now we go to the German settlements in other countries in the year 1940-41. During that time the movements from leaving their German settlements in Eastern countries, and not only Galicia, but also Poland, Rumania, Slovakia (the Slovakian Zips was entirely German) and Hungary was due to Hitler's "repatriating" Germans who were living in other countries under a different citizenship but were of German ethnicity. He needed soldiers and workers and moved a lot of people back within the borders of the Reich, making them German citizens with rights and obligations which that entailed. The people so moved had no choice in that, actually. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help > In a message dated 3/2/2006 1:09:47 PM Mountain Standard Time, > paulagoblirsch@gmail.com writes: > My question is why? Why\ when many Germans were still > moving east, would a family move BACK to Germany proper? > I don't recall if I ever sent an answer to this query to the > German-Bohemian > list. In case I did not, here are some suggestions. > > Bavaria was not "Germany". It was a Roman Catholic kingdom at a time > when many of the German states were Protestant. A lot of the migration > during this period had something to do with religion. > > In 1654 Bohemia was mostly Roman Catholic. Try to learn what was > going on in your ancestral noble domain (Herrschaft) between 1700-1720. > > Use Internet timelines as a first search for historical reasons for > an event. > > Freeholders and Burghers could move about without permission > from their noble landlords. Serfs could not. They would not escape > conscription during mobilization for war without having to pay a pretty > large sum. > > After looking over a timeline look for subjects to research more -- like > the Turkish wars in Europe and a history of epidemic and famine. > > High Austrian casualties in a given battle might make men who faced > conscription try to flee Austrian lands. > > Karen > > http://timelines.ws/countries/AUSTRIA.HTML > > 1701 Sep 7, England, Austria, and the Netherlands formed an > Alliance > against France. > (HN, 9/7/98) > > 1703 Sep 30, The French, at Hochstadt in the War of the Spanish > Succession, suffered only 1,000 casualties to the 11,000 of their > opponents, the > Austrians of Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I. > (HN, 9/30/98) > > 1704 Aug 13, The Battle of Blenheim, Germany, was fought during the > War of the Spanish Succession, resulting in a victory for English and > Austrian > forces. The Duke of Marlborough and Prince Eugene of Austria defeated the > French Army at the Battle of Blenheim. In 1705 Joseph Addison wrote the > poem "The > Campaign" for the Duke of Marlborough to commemorate the military victory > over > France and Spain at the Battle of Blenheim: "Do you not think an angel > rides > in the whirlwind and directs this storm." > (AP, 8/13/97)(HN, 8/13/98)(SSFC, 1/21/01, p.A6) > > 1705 May 5, Leopold I von Hapsburg (64), Emperor of Holy Roman > Empire, > died. > (MC, 5/5/02) > > 1706 Mar 8, Vienna's Wiener Stadtbank was established. > (MC, 3/8/02) > > 1713 Most European powers vowed to respect the 1713 royal > pronouncement of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles VI, called the Pragmatic > Sanction, in > which he declared that if he had no direct male heir upon his death, his > Austrian > domains would go to his eldest daughter, Maria Theresa. > (HNQ, 7/29/99) > > 1713 The plague in Vienna ended. The Karlskirche Church, designed > by > Johann Bernard Fischer von Erlach was built to commemorate this event. It > is > considered to be Vienna's greatest Baroque church. > (Hem., Dec. '95, p.69) > > 1717 Aug 22, The Austrian army forced the Turkish army out of > Belgrade, ending the Turkish revival in the Balkans. > (HN, 8/22/98) > > 1718 Jul 21, The Turkish threat to Europe was eliminated with the > signing of the Treaty of Passarowitz between Austria, Venice and the > Ottoman > Empire. > (HN, 7/21/98) > > http://timelines.ws/countries/BOHEMIA.HTML: > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ >

    03/11/2006 03:16:51
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. In the 1920s, why did some of the German Bohemians described below move to Poland (Galicia was in Poland after WWI) and not to Germany? _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak aida kraus wrote: > Paula, what you are probably referring to is the settlement in Galicia by > German Bohemians in 1920 and then their return to Germany in 1940. Most of > them were resettled in Westphalia. The first move to another country was in > 1920 and was in protest because of forming a new country called > Czechoslovakia out of part of their homeland which was Austria Hungary and > thereby diminishing their German representation and rights in the newly > created Czechoslovakian Country. The demonstrators were shot because > Germans had no rights after the loss of WW1 and the newly formed Czech > Republic (and Yugoslavia for that matter) had the full support of the > Allied. There was a "rash" of emigration during that time and many left > their ancient homeland.

    03/12/2006 02:13:35