In a message dated 5/18/2006 6:17:19 PM Mountain Standard Time, hwhitemc@msn.com writes: In the LDH search, I find Schrameks in Moravia. What LDS search did your use? Is that the one you can make with surnames on the LDS home page? Or are you referring to a film? If you have not ordered and searched the film: Ansidelerakten for Bohemia and Moravia to Galicia / Bukovina you need to do that next. If you have seen that film and the only Schramkes you found were from Moravia I might pursue that a little more....maybe look at the church records and see the names of those family members before they went to Bukowina if possible. Moravia being a part of the crownland of Bohemia (or kingdom of Bohemia) may mean that Moravians who went to Bukowina were designated as being from Bohemia by their descendants. Karen