In a message dated 5/14/2006 3:33:49 PM Mountain Standard Time, ullman@easystreet.com writes: Schramms somehow moved from Moravia to the Petersburg area. I have not seen any evidence of that so far. Do you have information which suggests this conclusion? If so, what is it? If you use Saar Czech Republic in a Stetlseeker search you find another Saar that is located in Moravia. Karen