Not your fault my dear... history taught in grade and high-school was geared towards the glorious American history of 300 years. But now, in a global world, we have to look far beyond our borders... and in process we are learning "where we ourselves are actually coming from" .... and that should make history far more interesting to us because it is gradually "coming alive." Happy hunting! Aida --------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam" <pam@ewebexpress.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Renewing search for family... > Just want to than you Aida - while this doesn't refer to me in anyway - I > am > sure learning a LOT of history!! Didn't realize I was so "Americanized"!!! > and knew NOTHING...:-) > Pam > > ~Pam Frierdich-Staley~ > Warrenton, MO > http://www.michael-steppig-family-tree.com > http://www.frierdich-staley-familytree.com > Looking for surnames of MICHALEK (MICHAEL/EAL), DILLON, > CINNAUGHT/CANNAUGHT, > SCHALLOM, STEPPIG, MEES/MAES, REIS, FRIERDICH/FRIEDRICH, KRAFT, BANGERT, > DIESEL, HATTER/HOERTER, KIEFER, RAPP, MENTEL, SHELLHORN, STALEY, WEBER, > THOELE, MITCHELL, PROBST, GOLD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aida Kraus" <akibb1@verizon.net> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Renewing search for family... > > > Becky: > What you have been typing as PreuBen is Preußen the ß is a German double > ss > or "sharp S", so.... they were from Prussia! > Since Silesia was also a part of Austria Hungary but was lost to Prussia > in > the Austrian Prussian war, and since this area is bordering on what is now > the Czech Republic, it could well be that they are from that part. (Of > course the Czech Republic or Czechoslovakia did not exist as yet in March > of > 1892, so there would be no reference to it on that manifest, because that > country did not yet exist.) So, when they left they were either from > Prussia, Austria, Galicia or Poland. But it could very well be that they > came from an area which later became part of the newly formed > Czechoslovakia in 1919, and that was long after they had left there. > The surname Benes, written as such or with an s at the end, would > indicate that they were of Czech ethnicity, while when their name is > spelled > with sch at the end, like Benesch, they were most likely a German family. > Since this name is as common in the Czech Republic (as Smith is here in > America) you will have a hard time to find the correct location. Your clue > is the recording "Preussen". So it is in the general area I listed > before. > Actually, you can only go by whatever lead documents or letters you can > find, or by remembering a village name, or perhaps you could go back to > the > passenger list (not upon their arrival) but from where they sailed, > because > sometimes they listed the places of origin in the Bremen shipslists. The > Bremen shiplists should have an alphabetical index. like the Ellis Island > register. Look for Benes and Benesch and see if someone has Preussen > (Prussia) and the same first names listged on it, and then, perhaps, you > may > be able to narrow it down. I certainly hope so. Good luck! > Aida > ------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Becky.Champion@equifax.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:31 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Renewing search for family... > > >> >> >> >> >> Hello, all! I am renewing a search for my genealogy block in the CR. My >> G-G-Grandmother, Johanna Pinker, came over in March of 1892 (she was 29), >> with her 6 year old son, Gordian (the passenger manifest has him listed >> as >> Kordian). The manifest lists their origination as Klattau. She would >> never >> speak of where she came from, nor who sired Gordian. Johanna's brother, >> Anton (Tony) came over in June of 1883, with an place of origin listed as >> PreuBen. The name below him on the manifest shows Catherine Benes, whom >> he >> married. Catherine's brother, Josef, married Johanna after she came over >> in >> 1892. Josef adopted Gordian, who then became Gordian Benes. >> >> I'm trying to trace Johanna and/or Anton back to the CR, but have had no >> success. Family stories have been passed down that Johanna was "deathly >> afraid" of anyone in uniform. That may indicate to me that she was raped, >> or something else traumatic happened to her. As she would not speak of >> her >> homeland, I have no idea what trials she faced. >> >> Any help or direction would be much appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Becky >> >> >> >> This message contains information from Equifax Inc. which may be >> confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, >> please >> refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this >> information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have >> received this transmission in error, please notify by e-mail >> postmaster@equifax.com. >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >> list? 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