To Jean in Florida: They may have lived there all their lives, like all natives do..... but not all villages had churches and they only appear when the churches were built and the recording started. If they lived close to a monastery the records go as far back as when the cloister was built. Remember that everyone was a heathen before Christianity ...or they believed in their Germanic mythological gods... until they were converted. The Catholic faith was dominant between 600 and 1380 in middle Europe and it came to the area of Fulda and Wuerzburg from Ireland with St. Kilian. In 1380 the Wycliffe Thesis, a Protestant theorem, was taught by Jan Hus at the German University at Prague. Later Martin Luther took up the Protestant teaching. This lead to the 30 years war which ended 1648 but during which most of the churches and cloisters were burned. In Bohemia a census was taken in 1651 called Berni Rula because in that religious war more than 50% of the population succumbed and they needed to know what population was left over. This census is called Berni Rula and I gave "direction" to it a few days back, look in the archives. I myself have Zicklers in my family from the area of Marienbad-Tepl. Stift (Abby) Tepl was one of the earliest Catholic settlements in the Egerland by the Prämonstratenser order. It is wise to familiarize yourself with the history of the area you are researching. You can also read about it on the internet if you key in "Stift Tepl, Bohemia" or this website: http://www.premontre.org/subpages/propriadocumenta/periodica/sec-analecta.htm All your names appear to me to be either Egerlander or Bavarian-Bohemian German names and they were lived this area since time began. People did not move very far from their hometowns and most of the families lived in the same houses for 350 years. Each generation improved the premises and the houses were built of stone to last centuries. Most of the farms were quite substantial. Aida ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN" <JEAN74@TAMPABAY.RR.COM> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Searching for family before 1700 or where did they come from > Hi List, I am searching for these families HORL, HOERL, HERL, ZICKLER, > NOBERT, LOW,LOEW, HOLLER, HOELLER, RADL. > I have some of them in Bohemia by 1740 but re did they come from, they > just appear in the 1700s > can anyone out there tell me did they come from Austria, Germany I am > beginning to think that they dropped out of space. > Thanks for any help > Jean in Fl > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ >