Yes, thanks, we know all that and we have applied the diacrits before, only then, most of the computers here do not recognize them and the printout of the geographical name makes the word unreadable. Therefore Kocin instead of Kočin is preferable in e-mail transmissions. Danke vielmals, because even without the diacrits the geographical location can easily be found at www.mapy.cz Aida ------------------- On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Hermann Rafetseder <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > > for such problems, you always should consider having a look into sources > like Orts-Repertorium des Koenigreiches Boehmen (changing correct "Umlaute" > to "ungerman" oe), edited on basis of the 1910-census by the Boehmische k.k. > Statthalterei in 1913; there you will find three places called Kocin (with > "hatschek" on c and correctly í with accent instead of i) plus numbers given > for "Umg.-Spr. d." or "b", meaning: "Umgangssprache deutsch" or "boehmisch", > i.e. mainly used language, as for the place you look for, on pages 284, 323 > and 384 (first and last one also being Ortsgemeinden / municipalities, the > second one only Ortsbestandteil, but I'm too tired, always to explain the > difference; I wrote a book about that problem in the 80s). But, of course, > even allegedly all-czech("boehmisch")-speaking population in 1910 (as in > both municipalities named Kocin) doesn't exclude the possibility of later > explicit "german" people in that villages, even at exactly that time (I had > several examples for several aspects of such problems in some family > histories, including later "germanization" of czech names and other > problems, which make it nearly impossible, to clearly seperate between > "czech" and "german" inhabitants). "Near Pilsen" obviously means the one on > p. 284, the municipality in district Kralovice / Kralowitz > > greetings from Linz > > Hermann Rafetseder > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:46:05 -0800 (PST) > > From: Patricia Moos <[email protected]> > > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] (no subject) > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Hi, > > I am new to the list.??My great grandparents?were from the Kocin > area?west of Pilsen, and they came to Baltimore in the 1880's.? They spoke > German as?their first language, but they also spoke Czech. > > ? > > However, after reading archived posts of this?list and after looking?at > maps of the Sudetenland, Egerland, etc., it looks as though Kocin?was?not > within the German-Bohemian part of the Austria-Hungary.? Can anyone explain > this? > > ? > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >