For what it's worth: "M. Czecho-slovakia" is actually an English expression. It may have been made in Czecho - but produced for the English speaking world. The M. could be a symbol for "made" Frank --------------------------------------------------------------- Aida: The photo has no identification as to who the person is. The only reason I think that it might be from my Bohemian ancestors is the fact that the frame appears to be made in "M. Czecho-slovakia" My Bohemian ancestors emigrated in 1878 from Oberberzdorf near Reichenberg. They were Wohlmann, and Herrmann. What you say makes me wonder if perhaps the photo could have been one of the sons who did not emigrate in 1878 with the parents and 3 young children. My gr gr grandfather had a set of older children with his first wife. So perhaps one of them sent the picture. The frame could have been newer than the photo. Thanks, Pam > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:25:40 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Ornate photo frame "M. Czecho-slovakia" > > Pam: The term "Czechoslovakia" was coined in 1918, not before. The picture > looks older, I would say before that time. One would need to know for what > purpose this picture was taken. In 1878 your ancestors were Austrian > Hungarians from Bohemia or Moravia. I don't know what this M stands for, > unless they were from Moravia, instead of Bohemia, do you know? Bohemia, > Moravia and Slovakia were combined to form a new country from Austrian > monarchical lands and they called this combined area the Republic of > Czechoslovakia, as of 1918. The men's fashion in that picture looks to me > like pre-WW1 (1914-1918), because after WW1 they did not wear these pointed > collars anymore. They had starched white shirt collars without the points, > but the collar then, was still separate from the shirt and was delivered > from the laundry in a round satchel. Then, in the late 1920 they started to > have regular men's shirts, pretty much the way they are now, but still VERY > starched. Do you know the person in that picture and what was the reason > for this photograph? Usually they photographed groom and bride separately > as well as together at the wedding photographer, or it might have been for a > professional promotion, or perhaps even an enlargement of a passport photo?, > But it could also be that someone brought a frame from what was already > Czechoslovakia and gave it to your relatives and they put an old picture in > it. Do you know? > Aida > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, PJ Vazquez <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Among my family's old photos there is a very old looking ornate frame with > > an old photo. The person is not identified. On the back of the frame > > there is a stamping "M. Czecho-slovakia". I wonder if any one knows what > > that means? What does the "M" stand for? At what time period would > > Bohemia have been called as such? > > > > > > > > My ancestors emigrated from Librec area 1878. > > > > > > > > Here is a link to see the photo: I hope it will work for you. > > > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/PJ2004/Geneology/MCzecho-slovakia.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Pam > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think you are dead right, Frank, because there is a dash between Czecho and slovakia. That was put on it outside the country, because anything produced after 1918 would have Czechoslovakia (one word) on it. Aida On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Frank Soural <[email protected]> wrote: > > For what it's worth: > "M. Czecho-slovakia" is actually an English expression. It may have been > made in Czecho - but produced for the English speaking world. > The M. could be a symbol for "made" > > > Frank > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Aida: > > > > The photo has no identification as to who the person is. The only reason > I think that it might be from my Bohemian ancestors is the fact that the > frame appears to be made in "M. Czecho-slovakia" > > > > My Bohemian ancestors emigrated in 1878 from Oberberzdorf near Reichenberg. > They were Wohlmann, and Herrmann. > > > > What you say makes me wonder if perhaps the photo could have been one of > the > sons who did not emigrate in 1878 with the parents and 3 young children. > My gr gr grandfather had a set of older children with his first wife. > So > perhaps one of them sent the picture. The frame could have been newer > than > the photo. > > > > Thanks, Pam > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:25:40 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Ornate photo frame "M. Czecho-slovakia" > > > > Pam: The term "Czechoslovakia" was coined in 1918, not before. The > picture > > looks older, I would say before that time. One would need to know for > what > > purpose this picture was taken. In 1878 your ancestors were Austrian > > Hungarians from Bohemia or Moravia. I don't know what this M stands for, > > unless they were from Moravia, instead of Bohemia, do you know? Bohemia, > > Moravia and Slovakia were combined to form a new country from Austrian > > monarchical lands and they called this combined area the Republic of > > Czechoslovakia, as of 1918. The men's fashion in that picture looks to me > > like pre-WW1 (1914-1918), because after WW1 they did not wear these > pointed > > collars anymore. They had starched white shirt collars without the > points, > > but the collar then, was still separate from the shirt and was delivered > > from the laundry in a round satchel. Then, in the late 1920 they started > to > > have regular men's shirts, pretty much the way they are now, but still > VERY > > starched. Do you know the person in that picture and what was the reason > > for this photograph? Usually they photographed groom and bride separately > > as well as together at the wedding photographer, or it might have been > for > a > > professional promotion, or perhaps even an enlargement of a passport > photo?, > > But it could also be that someone brought a frame from what was already > > Czechoslovakia and gave it to your relatives and they put an old picture > in > > it. Do you know? > > Aida > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, PJ Vazquez <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > Among my family's old photos there is a very old looking ornate frame > with > > > an old photo. The person is not identified. On the back of the frame > > > there is a stamping "M. Czecho-slovakia". I wonder if any one knows > what > > > that means? What does the "M" stand for? At what time period would > > > Bohemia have been called as such? > > > > > > > > > > > > My ancestors emigrated from Librec area 1878. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link to see the photo: I hope it will work for you. > > > > > > > > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/PJ2004/Geneology/MCzecho-slovakia.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Pam > > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >