Dear Larry, thanks for you kind words. We need to find "your correct" Ovesne, there are several. Go to this link: http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected]=11 <http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected]=11>Click on all of them and when the map comes up, go to "dalsi" and then hit "historicka" and read the German name. This is the way you can find Haberles (?) - a nickname for something I just happen to dig out of my 80 year old brain. I have a sneaky suspicion that you screwed up the name of your ancestors and you mean Haberkladrau instead of Haberles!!!! that is a bit to the East of Marienbad (Marianske Lazne on the map!!!) Good luck.... I have a feeling that we have hit bullseye now. Yes? Let me know! Aida ------------------------------------- On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Larry Klauser <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Aida: > > Like others, I can not thank you enough for the continuous education that > you provide. I always look forward to opening your responses. It seems > that I have failed "Sudetenland map reading 101". I am unable to find my > ancestors town of Haberles (Ovesne as it is now known) with reference to the > Sudetenland border. I think it is near the edge but I am not sure. As > always, thanks for your wisdom, knowledge and guidance. > > Larry Klauser > > --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Aida Kraus <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Aida Kraus <[email protected]> > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Obsolete Villages in Bohemia > To: "german-bohemian" <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:57 PM > > Here is a link to villages and buildings which are no longer in existence > in > the Czech Republic. While the Czechs confiscated German property after WW2 > (1945) in the Sudetenland and were trying to repopulate the area with > 800,000 Czech new settlers, the enormous void created by the 3,2 Million > Germans is quite visible on this map. However, please consider that some > of > the villages on the Western border were bulldozed to allow a clear cut > along > the length of the Iron Curtain against the West. To the North, Saxony, and > then Communist East Germany, there was no such installation. These red > dots represent emptied out German villages to the most part. This is not a > representation of the German presence in Bohemia, because that was much > greater. These red dots are merely obsolete villages you can click on to > get a global positioning and the German and Czech name. You can then go to > www.mapy.cz > to zoom in on the area by satellite. You can go very close to individual > properties and houses. > With this map and alphabetical index of villages in Czech and German > languages, you will be able to better locate the place of your ancestors > that might no longer exist and I hope that this will help you out of a dead > ended research block. > Submitted by Aida > > http://www.zanikleobce.cz/index.php?menu=22%20title= > http://www.zanikleobce.cz/index.php?menu=93 > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >