I had browsed records about a year ago on Actapulcic, and although not a quick endeavor it seems that things are loading up verrrrrrrry slowly now. Is everyone having the same issue or is it my system? Takes a good full minute for each page to load, so going page by page is taking what seems like "forever". Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: idirlion@me.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:29:53 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Senator In Budweiss I have a relative who, my dad told me, was a Senator In Budweiss. A researcher found his son's 1786 birth record, in which the dad (Martin Pichler) is listed as a Tuchmachermeister - Master Cloth Maker. Are there any political records of the time that could be searched, to try to find Martin, in case he really was a senator? Thanks. best, Paul German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Actapublica.eu Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: idirlion@me.com To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 20:05:16 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Actapublica What is Actapulcic? Paul On Dé Céadaoin, 16 Bealtaine, 2012, at 12:56, peter.hanson@comcast.net wrote: > I had browsed records about a year ago on Actapulcic, and although not a quick endeavor it seems that things are loading up verrrrrrrry slowly now. > Is everyone having the same issue or is it my system? Takes a good full minute for each page to load, so going page by page is taking what seems like "forever". > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: idirlion@me.com > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:29:53 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Senator In Budweiss > > I have a relative who, my dad told me, was a Senator In Budweiss. > > A researcher found his son's 1786 birth record, in which the dad (Martin Pichler) is listed as a Tuchmachermeister - Master Cloth Maker. > > Are there any political records of the time that could be searched, to try to find Martin, in case he really was a senator? > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is Actapulcic? Paul On Dé Céadaoin, 16 Bealtaine, 2012, at 12:56, peter.hanson@comcast.net wrote: > I had browsed records about a year ago on Actapulcic, and although not a quick endeavor it seems that things are loading up verrrrrrrry slowly now. > Is everyone having the same issue or is it my system? Takes a good full minute for each page to load, so going page by page is taking what seems like "forever". > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: idirlion@me.com > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:29:53 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Senator In Budweiss > > I have a relative who, my dad told me, was a Senator In Budweiss. > > A researcher found his son's 1786 birth record, in which the dad (Martin Pichler) is listed as a Tuchmachermeister - Master Cloth Maker. > > Are there any political records of the time that could be searched, to try to find Martin, in case he really was a senator? > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a relative who, my dad told me, was a Senator In Budweiss. A researcher found his son's 1786 birth record, in which the dad (Martin Pichler) is listed as a Tuchmachermeister - Master Cloth Maker. Are there any political records of the time that could be searched, to try to find Martin, in case he really was a senator? Thanks. best, Paul

Greetings German-Bohemian Descendants! Announcing the October 2012 Tour to Germany and the Czech Republic! Reserve your place today to insure your seat for this 15 Day Trip, October 4 – 18, 2012. The price is $3,775.00 – Includes Airfare; Taxes and Fuel Surcharges. *Based on double occupancy. *Single occupancy is $495 additional *Taxes and fuel surcharges are subject to change prior to departure. *This price is almost $100 per day less expensive than other tours this fall. The Tour Includes: Round trip air to Europe – Arriving in Munich and returning to Prague 13 Night Accommodations at 3 and 4 star hotels – based on double occupancy Breakfast Provided Daily at each hotel Transportation in a comfortable Motor Coach Eight evening dinners at local restaurants and hotels Four Group lunches – Starting with a Welcome Lunch in Nuremberg Tour Highlights Visits to ancestral villages designed specifically for participants – See below for the region we are focusing on. Escorted Tours of Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Regensburg, Český Krumlov, and Prague Admission and tours of the German-Bohemian Museum in Weiden, Kladruby Monastery, Český Krumlov, Castle Theatre, Karlštejn Castle, St. Vitus’ Cathedral and Prague Castle Region of Ancestral Villages – The area we are focusing on during this tour goes from approximately Střibro in the Czech Republic to the Furth im Wald region on the Bavarian side of the border in the south. Depending on the situation we can work in some destinations a little outside of this area. Send Wade an email or call him to discuss options. To review a full itinerary please send me a message and I can send you one. This tour is designed and lead by Wade Olsen. Don’t let the Norwegian last name fool you. A full ½ of my heritage is German and German-Bohemian from this region on the map. I have been researching my ancestry since I was a small child running around the farms where these German-Bohemian ancestors settled. I have spent quite a bit of time driving the back roads of Bavaria and Western Czech Republic with the mission of seeing all of the villages of ancestors and others. There are links to over 70 villages so far. These include places they lived, worked, are buried and went to church. My goal is to help others connect with their ancestors and experience that great connected feeling of being where your ancestors once lived. Sign up today and we can get started planning the places you most want to see! Please let me know if you have any questions, have interest, or if you would like to join our group! Due to Airline Ticketing deadlines – Sign up by June 1, 2012. Thank you! Wade Olsen Wr.olsen@gmail.com (651) 260-9444 Mobile

HOW do I learn to use this site? Thanks in advance ! On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Ken Chromy <kchromy@yahoo.com> wrote: > There had been an announcement that they would be down the 12th and 13th > for maintenance of their electrical grid. I too tried and didn't get on > this weekend so it must have taken them a bit longer than anticipated. But > this morning it came up OK for me. > > Ken > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *hwhitemc* "Live simply; Care deeply; Love generously;" and most importantly, "Speak kindly." ...by Sam @ MTPR

Thank you, Ken!!! I was worried they decided to take this site down for good. I'm glued to it almost every day--I'm getting so much info on my family. It's fantastic!! Mary --- On Mon, 5/14/12, Ken Chromy <kchromy@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Ken Chromy <kchromy@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Actapublica (Mary Read) > To: "german-bohemian@rootsweb.com" <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 14, 2012, 3:27 AM > There had been an announcement that > they would be down the 12th and 13th for maintenance of > their electrical grid.  I too tried and didn't get on this > weekend so it must have taken them a bit longer than > anticipated.  But this morning it came up OK for me. > > Ken > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

There had been an announcement that they would be down the 12th and 13th for maintenance of their electrical grid.  I too tried and didn't get on this weekend so it must have taken them a bit longer than anticipated.  But this morning it came up OK for me. Ken

Does anyone know why I can't get through to actapublica.eu? Are they updating their info and will be down for awhile? I was on it Saturday but can't get it today. Mary

All: I recently consolidated computer accounts. As a result, I had to move the website that contains a partial English translation of Johann Georg Sommer's 1847 description of the Elbogen district (vol. 15 of his series on the Kingdom of Bohemia). Many of you have found this translation useful in the past as background material to learn what the place of your ancestors may have been like 160 years ago. The new address is: http://home.comcast.net/~mhobein/genealogy/bohemia/ Please update your bookmarks and links. -- Urs Geiser (ugeiser@comcast.net) Woodridge (DuPage Co., IL)

A winning moment!! It pleases me. ----- Original Message ----- From: <arianwen@gmail.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:05 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] My Oma > You may wonder what this announcement has to do with the list, but I > promise there's a connection. Almost three weeks ago, my Oma passed away > in her sleep at the age of ninety, and as this list has been a crucial > part in the last gift I was able to give her, I wanted to make sure > everyone who's helped knows just what they've done and how much it means > to me as well as the rest of the family. Thanks to you all, Aida in > particular, I was able to solve a few family mysteries and find Oma's > family for her while she was still alive, something we'd been unable to do > for decades until I stumbled onto this list. It gave her an extra sense of > peace before she passed, to know what had happened to her immediate family > after 1945 as well as finally find out the family history beyond her > parents. I am eternally grateful to everyone who had a hand in giving that > gift to her, it meant more to her than I can say. > > Anna > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You may wonder what this announcement has to do with the list, but I promise there's a connection. Almost three weeks ago, my Oma passed away in her sleep at the age of ninety, and as this list has been a crucial part in the last gift I was able to give her, I wanted to make sure everyone who's helped knows just what they've done and how much it means to me as well as the rest of the family. Thanks to you all, Aida in particular, I was able to solve a few family mysteries and find Oma's family for her while she was still alive, something we'd been unable to do for decades until I stumbled onto this list. It gave her an extra sense of peace before she passed, to know what had happened to her immediate family after 1945 as well as finally find out the family history beyond her parents. I am eternally grateful to everyone who had a hand in giving that gift to her, it meant more to her than I can say. Anna

I have used Hana Skockova several times & have always been pleased with the results. Her email contact is quirin@quick.cz. Judy in Alaska On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:21 AM, <idirlion@me.com> wrote: > Can anyone recommend any good researchers? > > I have relatives (Trexler and Pichler) born in Peterhof Bohemia and > Budweiss Bohemia around 1850, but I cannot find anything useful about how > to obtain their birth (or death) records. > > Thanks. > > Paul > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone recommend any good researchers? I have relatives (Trexler and Pichler) born in Peterhof Bohemia and Budweiss Bohemia around 1850, but I cannot find anything useful about how to obtain their birth (or death) records. Thanks. Paul

that was a better response. my family came from the Netze District and I knew Jastrow was nearby...your link took me to the same location I was thinking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aida Kraus" <draytonharbor@gmail.com> To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:12:19 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Jastrow or Yastrow Germany where is it now Allen, try this link, it might lead you to the GPS location: http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp It seems that there was Yastrow at Posen which was within the German Imperium long before the existence of the third Reich. After WW2, while the Russians were given the Eastern part of Poland, they in turn, rewarded the Poles by giving them all German parts in the West of Poland, up to the Oder river. The areas lost were East Pommerania, the West Prussian Corridor, Danzig, Silesia, Brandenburg, etc. making the Eastern border of Germany the Oder river. Look at maps from 1880 what Germany looked like and then look at the present map of 2012, and you will see all the territories that were lost to Poland. Aida On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, <akrueger@frontiernet.net> wrote: > I have a distant relative that is from Yastrow or Jastrow, Germany back in > the late 1800's. I cannot find a Yastrow in Germany. > > Another person told me Yastrow is in Czechoslovakia, near Prague. I > can't find it in Czech. either. > > None of the cities in Czech start with the letter "Y" so it must be > spelled differently. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > thanks > > allen > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe this was in Prussia and is now in Poland....up near Czarnikow/Scharnikow. ----- Original Message ----- From: akrueger@frontiernet.net To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:41:41 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Jastrow or Yastrow Germany where is it now I have a distant relative that is from Yastrow or Jastrow, Germany back in the late 1800's. I cannot find a Yastrow in Germany. Another person told me Yastrow is in Czechoslovakia, near Prague. I can't find it in Czech. either. None of the cities in Czech start with the letter "Y" so it must be spelled differently. Anyone have any suggestions? thanks allen German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a distant relative that is from Yastrow or Jastrow, Germany back in the late 1800's. I cannot find a Yastrow in Germany. Another person told me Yastrow is in Czechoslovakia, near Prague. I can't find it in Czech. either. None of the cities in Czech start with the letter "Y" so it must be spelled differently. Anyone have any suggestions? thanks allen

Allen, try this link, it might lead you to the GPS location: http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp It seems that there was Yastrow at Posen which was within the German Imperium long before the existence of the third Reich. After WW2, while the Russians were given the Eastern part of Poland, they in turn, rewarded the Poles by giving them all German parts in the West of Poland, up to the Oder river. The areas lost were East Pommerania, the West Prussian Corridor, Danzig, Silesia, Brandenburg, etc. making the Eastern border of Germany the Oder river. Look at maps from 1880 what Germany looked like and then look at the present map of 2012, and you will see all the territories that were lost to Poland. Aida On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, <akrueger@frontiernet.net> wrote: > I have a distant relative that is from Yastrow or Jastrow, Germany back in > the late 1800's. I cannot find a Yastrow in Germany. > > Another person told me Yastrow is in Czechoslovakia, near Prague. I > can't find it in Czech. either. > > None of the cities in Czech start with the letter "Y" so it must be > spelled differently. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > thanks > > allen > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks so much to you, Mary & Aida...from this one posting I have more information that my family has ever had about Grandmother's home. I went to a book store and got some good maps and a book about the area as it exists now...it is a travel book with lots of pictures. I spent the afternoon reading them with my mother, who is 95. She is so happy, as am I. I now have a direction. My goal will be to learn a little more about the family if I can, and to, some time perhaps, visit to see if I can find the place they lived. My greatgrandfather was a miller, and I see this village is right on the river, as I would expect. There is a story about him pulling my grandma out of the river when she fell in as a little girl. I am quite sure this is the right Hammerdorf, near the Polish border, as some of the place names are familier, like Orlick, and with the river running through the village. Thank you both so very, very much! Margaret Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <german-bohemian-request@rootsweb.com> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 73 > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Leder Family (Aida Kraus) > 2. Re: Leder Family (Mary Boyd) > 3. Re: Leder Family (Mary Boyd) > 4. Re: Leder Family (Aida Kraus) > 5. Re: Leder Family (Mary Boyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:49:31 -0700 > From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPY_z9w3vRUR-q038vS_XLinZSZiKeXdGTCRNBoOi6BwNjsZKQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Margaret, this is what is offered for Hamernice Czech Republic records: > *Hamernice* (5864), environs of P???n, Soutok, Orlick? hory PLA; And for > more historical background go to this website: > http://www.multilingualarchive.com/ma/dewiki/en/%C5%BDamberk > I suggest that you post your request for the Leder family on the German > Moravian rootsweb list where you might be better served than on the German > Bohemian list. > Aida > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Margaret, Hammersdorf/Hamersdorf has the Czech name of Hamernice now >> and is north of Senftenberg, which is called Zumberk in Czech. Click on >> the link below and see some pictures of the area, where they also give >> direction to access birth certificates in this area. >> http://www.picturepastime.com/?c=ez&UF=-544825&UN=-770690&DG=PPL >> Since I cannot attach any maps here, I am sending you ( to your private >> Email) two old German detail maps of the area and a Czech map for >> present >> geographical location. I hope that this will help you along. >> Aida >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Margaret Johnson >> <mjo123@wildblue.net>wrote: >> >>> hello, I am looking for information about the Leder family, German >>> people who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2. They were >>> driven out after the war and relocated to various locations in Germany. >>> We >>> were told they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf on >>> any >>> map. I believe it was somewhere east of Jena. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Margaret Johnson >>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:39:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > To: "german-bohemian@rootsweb.com" <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1335285595.28854.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ? > Margaret, > ? > Hammerdorf/Hamernice is a small village which belonged to the parish at > Himmlisch Rybnai/Nebesk? Rybn?. The next larger town near these villages > is Rokitnitz/Rokytnice v Orlick?ch hor?ch. They are in ENE?Czech > Republic?near the border with Poland. The vital records for Hammerdorf are > in the archive at Z?mrsk with the records for Himmlisch Rybnai. A quick > check showed that the church registers for Hammerdorf have been scanned > and are online. The link to information about available records at Z?mrsk > is here: > http://vychodoceskearchivy.cz/zamrsk/matriky/ > ? > Open or download the inventory of parish registers pdf file on this page. > Then you can search for Hammerdorf within the pdf file. There are links to > the downloadable church registers for each parish. The downloadable > registers are scanned pages of the churchbooks which have been compressed > into large zip files. I would recommend a fast internet connection as the > zip files are sometimes huge (over 500Mb each). > ? > I don't know why one would ask?for information about Hammerdorf/Hamernice > on the Moravian list when this village was obviously in Bohemia (in the > Adlergebirge)? > ? > Mary > > >>________________________________ >>From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >>To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:49 AM >>Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family >> >>Margaret, this is what is offered for Hamernice Czech Republic records: >>*Hamernice* (5864), environs of P???n, Soutok, Orlick? hory PLA;? And for >>more historical background go to this website: >>http://www.multilingualarchive.com/ma/dewiki/en/%C5%BDamberk >>I suggest that you post your request for the Leder family on the German >>Moravian rootsweb list where you might be better served than on the German >>Bohemian list. >>Aida >> >>On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>> Dear Margaret, Hammersdorf/Hamersdorf has the Czech name of Hamernice >>> now >>> and is north of Senftenberg, which is called Zumberk in Czech.? Click on >>> the link below and see some pictures of the area, where they also give >>> direction to access birth certificates in this area. >>> http://www.picturepastime.com/?c=ez&UF=-544825&UN=-770690&DG=PPL >>> Since I cannot attach any maps here, I am sending you ( to your private >>> Email) two old German detail maps of the area and a Czech map? for >>> present >>> geographical location.? I hope that this will help you along. >>> Aida >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Margaret Johnson >>> <mjo123@wildblue.net>wrote: >>> >>>> hello,? I am looking for information about the Leder family, German >>>> people who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2.? They were >>>> driven out after the war and relocated to various locations in >>>> Germany.? We >>>> were told they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf on >>>> any >>>> map.? I believe it was somewhere east of Jena. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Margaret Johnson >>>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > To: "german-bohemian@rootsweb.com" <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1335288264.57638.YahooMailNeo@web160604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Margaret, a couple of other details ... > ? > According to an article written in the mid 1950's by one of the expellees, > Leder was one of the 10 most common surnames in the Himmlisch Rybnai area > and one of the 70 most common names in the Adlergebirge. > ? > In 1930, Hammerdorf had a population of 96 (2 Czechs, the rest German, all > Catholic) and 28 houses. > ? > Mary > ? > ? > > >>________________________________ >>From: Margaret Johnson <mjo123@wildblue.net> >>To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:56 PM >>Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family >> >>hello,? I am looking for information about the Leder family, German people >>who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2.? They were driven out >>after the war and relocated to various locations in Germany.? We were told >>they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf on any map.? I >>believe it was somewhere east of Jena. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Margaret Johnson >>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:28:30 -0700 > From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > To: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com>, german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPY_z9wdGQKmz+MVu2otDKdkQZ29Pw-KeKp8y0VVFCxBt-+LcQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Be careful, there are two Hamernice, the in question is near > Koeniggr?tz! Kralovehradecky > Kraj <http://www.fallingrain.com/world/EZ/82/index.html> > Aida > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> Margaret, >> >> Hammerdorf/Hamernice is a small village which belonged to the parish at >> Himmlisch Rybnai/Nebesk? Rybn?. The next larger town near these villages >> is >> Rokitnitz/Rokytnice v Orlick?ch hor?ch. They are in ENE Czech Republic >> near >> the border with Poland. The vital records for Hammerdorf are in the >> archive >> at Z?mrsk with the records for Himmlisch Rybnai. A quick check showed >> that >> the church registers for Hammerdorf have been scanned and are online. The >> link to information about available records at Z?mrsk is here: >> http://vychodoceskearchivy.cz/zamrsk/matriky/ >> >> Open or download the inventory of parish registers pdf file on this page. >> Then you can search for Hammerdorf within the pdf file. There are links >> to >> the downloadable church registers for each parish. The downloadable >> registers are scanned pages of the churchbooks which have been compressed >> into large zip files. I would recommend a fast internet connection as the >> zip files are sometimes huge (over 500Mb each). >> >> I don't know why one would ask for information about Hammerdorf/Hamernice >> on the Moravian list when this village was obviously in Bohemia (in the >> Adlergebirge)? >> >> Mary >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >> >To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:49 AM >> >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family >> > >> >Margaret, this is what is offered for Hamernice Czech Republic records: >> >*Hamernice* (5864), environs of P???n, Soutok, Orlick? hory PLA; And >> >for >> >more historical background go to this website: >> >http://www.multilingualarchive.com/ma/dewiki/en/%C5%BDamberk >> >I suggest that you post your request for the Leder family on the German >> >Moravian rootsweb list where you might be better served than on the >> >German >> >Bohemian list. >> >Aida >> > >> >On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Margaret, Hammersdorf/Hamersdorf has the Czech name of Hamernice >> now >> >> and is north of Senftenberg, which is called Zumberk in Czech. Click >> >> on >> >> the link below and see some pictures of the area, where they also give >> >> direction to access birth certificates in this area. >> >> http://www.picturepastime.com/?c=ez&UF=-544825&UN=-770690&DG=PPL >> >> Since I cannot attach any maps here, I am sending you ( to your >> >> private >> >> Email) two old German detail maps of the area and a Czech map for >> present >> >> geographical location. I hope that this will help you along. >> >> Aida >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Margaret Johnson <mjo123@wildblue.net >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> hello, I am looking for information about the Leder family, German >> >>> people who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2. They were >> >>> driven out after the war and relocated to various locations in >> Germany. We >> >>> were told they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf >> >>> on >> any >> >>> map. I believe it was somewhere east of Jena. >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> Margaret Johnson >> >>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:10:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > To: "german-bohemian@rootsweb.com" <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1335298253.16311.YahooMailNeo@web160605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ? > True. But I don't think that?the one closer to K?niggr?tz (Hradec Kr?lov?) > was ever known as Hammerdorf. Was it? > > ? > >>________________________________ >>From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >>To: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com>; german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family >> >> >>Be careful, there are? two Hamernice, the in question is near Koeniggr?tz! >>Kralovehradecky Kraj >>Aida >> >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>? >>>Margaret, >>>? >>>Hammerdorf/Hamernice is a small village which belonged to the parish at >>>Himmlisch Rybnai/Nebesk? Rybn?. The next larger town near these villages >>>is Rokitnitz/Rokytnice v Orlick?ch hor?ch. They are in ENE?Czech >>>Republic?near the border with Poland. The vital records for Hammerdorf >>>are in the archive at Z?mrsk with the records for Himmlisch Rybnai. A >>>quick check showed that the church registers for Hammerdorf have been >>>scanned and are online. The link to information about available records >>>at Z?mrsk is here: >>>http://vychodoceskearchivy.cz/zamrsk/matriky/ >>>? >>>Open or download the inventory of parish registers pdf file on this page. >>>Then you can search for Hammerdorf within the pdf file. There are links >>>to the downloadable church registers for each parish. The downloadable >>>registers are scanned pages of the churchbooks which have been compressed >>>into large zip files. I would recommend a fast internet connection as the >>>zip files are sometimes huge (over 500Mb each). >>>? >>>I don't know why one would ask?for information about Hammerdorf/Hamernice >>>on the Moravian list when this village was obviously in Bohemia (in the >>>Adlergebirge)? >>>? >>>Mary >>> >>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >>>>To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:49 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family >>> >>>> >>>>Margaret, this is what is offered for Hamernice Czech Republic records: >>>>*Hamernice* (5864), environs of P???n, Soutok, Orlick? hory PLA;? And >>>>for >>> >>>>more historical background go to this website: >>>>http://www.multilingualarchive.com/ma/dewiki/en/%C5%BDamberk >>>>I suggest that you post your request for the Leder family on the German >>>>Moravian rootsweb list where you might be better served than on the >>>>German >>>>Bohemian list. >>>>Aida >>>> >>>>On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Margaret, Hammersdorf/Hamersdorf has the Czech name of Hamernice >>>>> now >>>>> and is north of Senftenberg, which is called Zumberk in Czech.? Click >>>>> on >>>>> the link below and see some pictures of the area, where they also give >>>>> direction to access birth certificates in this area. >>>>> http://www.picturepastime.com/?c=ez&UF=-544825&UN=-770690&DG=PPL >>>>> Since I cannot attach any maps here, I am sending you ( to your >>>>> private >>>>> Email) two old German detail maps of the area and a Czech map? for >>>>> present >>>>> geographical location.? I hope that this will help you along. >>>>> Aida >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Margaret Johnson >>>>> <mjo123@wildblue.net>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hello,? I am looking for information about the Leder family, German >>>>>> people who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2.? They were >>>>>> driven out after the war and relocated to various locations in >>>>>> Germany.? We >>>>>> were told they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf >>>>>> on any >>>>>> map.? I believe it was somewhere east of Jena. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Margaret Johnson >>>>>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Egbhs/ >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>> without >>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 73 > **********************************************

Yes, I found the maps and sent them to Margaret. Actually I sent her several maps thereof. Aida On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> wrote: > > True. But I don't think that the one closer to Königgrätz (Hradec Králové) > was ever known as Hammerdorf. Was it? > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > >To: Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com>; german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:28 AM > >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > > > > > >Be careful, there are two Hamernice, the in question is near > Koeniggrätz! Kralovehradecky Kraj > >Aida > > > > > >On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Mary Boyd <madb117@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >>Margaret, > >> > >>Hammerdorf/Hamernice is a small village which belonged to the parish at > Himmlisch Rybnai/Nebeská Rybná. The next larger town near these villages is > Rokitnitz/Rokytnice v Orlických horách. They are in ENE Czech Republic near > the border with Poland. The vital records for Hammerdorf are in the archive > at Zámrsk with the records for Himmlisch Rybnai. A quick check showed that > the church registers for Hammerdorf have been scanned and are online. The > link to information about available records at Zámrsk is here: > >>http://vychodoceskearchivy.cz/zamrsk/matriky/ > >> > >>Open or download the inventory of parish registers pdf file on this > page. Then you can search for Hammerdorf within the pdf file. There are > links to the downloadable church registers for each parish. The > downloadable registers are scanned pages of the churchbooks which have been > compressed into large zip files. I would recommend a fast internet > connection as the zip files are sometimes huge (over 500Mb each). > >> > >>I don't know why one would ask for information about > Hammerdorf/Hamernice on the Moravian list when this village was obviously > in Bohemia (in the Adlergebirge)? > >> > >>Mary > >> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >>>From: Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > >>>To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com > >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:49 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Leder Family > >> > >>> > >>>Margaret, this is what is offered for Hamernice Czech Republic records: > >>>*Hamernice* (5864), environs of Pěčín, Soutok, Orlické hory PLA; And > for > >> > >>>more historical background go to this website: > >>>http://www.multilingualarchive.com/ma/dewiki/en/%C5%BDamberk > >>>I suggest that you post your request for the Leder family on the German > >>>Moravian rootsweb list where you might be better served than on the > German > >>>Bohemian list. > >>>Aida > >>> > >>>On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Margaret, Hammersdorf/Hamersdorf has the Czech name of Hamernice > now > >>>> and is north of Senftenberg, which is called Zumberk in Czech. Click > on > >>>> the link below and see some pictures of the area, where they also give > >>>> direction to access birth certificates in this area. > >>>> http://www.picturepastime.com/?c=ez&UF=-544825&UN=-770690&DG=PPL > >>>> Since I cannot attach any maps here, I am sending you ( to your > private > >>>> Email) two old German detail maps of the area and a Czech map for > present > >>>> geographical location. I hope that this will help you along. > >>>> Aida > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Margaret Johnson < > mjo123@wildblue.net>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> hello, I am looking for information about the Leder family, German > >>>>> people who lived in what is now Czechoslovakia before WW2. They were > >>>>> driven out after the war and relocated to various locations in > Germany. We > >>>>> were told they lived in "Hammerdorf", but we cannot find Hammerdorf > on any > >>>>> map. I believe it was somewhere east of Jena. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you, > >>>>> > >>>>> Margaret Johnson > >>>>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Egbhs/ > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >>>------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >