Brandt, "When did the jurisdictions of Pfraumberg and Tachau come into being?" Pfaumberg was a well established town and independent of the castle by late Medieval times. According to Wikipedia, the "Tachov district" is mentioned as early as 1126. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%99imda http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okres_Tachov "Would I use them in this citation? I want to cite the location as it existed in 1865." You're probably creating a marriage fact/event in Rootsmagic, so you'll include the location as part of the fact, not the citation. Some genealogists record the place name in the fact exactly as its written in the source document or as implied by the source material. In this case, unless otherwise stated, the parish that created the marriage register is the presumed location. Some genealogists further interpret that place information by more fully qualifying the parish in the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church at the time of the event. (Before the dawn of civil records, this was often the only relevant jurisdiction.) Others translate the place information to the political location that existed at the time, even if it doesn't relate to the source material. The former place information is relevant to the researcher while the latter is possibly easier to understand by someone else who is looking at the family tree. I make note of both myself as well as the contemporary location. They're all meaningful. The Parish of Rozvadov today is in the Diocese of Pilsen in the Czech ecclesiastical province. The Diocese of Pilsen was formed in 1993, so who knows what it was in 1865? My guess is Roßhaupt was part of the *former* Diocese of Budweis as established in 1785 or perhaps part of the former Archdiocese of Prague. It's an academic point, however, since actapublica.eu presents the registers at the parish level without regard for the historical jurisdictions. I could be mistaken, but I believe that Roßhaupt in 1865 was politically part of the Tachau District of the Pilsen Region of the Kingdom of Bohemia (Königreich Böhmen) in the Austrian Empire (Kaiserthum Oesterreich). The empire didn't become the Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1867. In your source "citation", which is only concerned with the source material, you should cite the Catholic parish. Here is an example of how the source information might appear: Roman Catholic Church (Roßhaupt Parish), Book 18: Marriages (1848-1930), Img. 15. Marriage Registration: Johann Zitzmann + Theresia Dörfler, 17 Oct 1865; digital images, Státní oblastní archiv v Plzni.

Mary, It would be a great story if we could learn about your family's life in Landskron before, during and after the war and how they adjusted to life in the U.S.. A story about the restaurant with photos and copies from the recipe book would be a great addition. Would you be able to put something together for us… Much appreciated!! Bob Paulson On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:06 PM, mmshiffer@aol.com wrote: > > Bob, > > My mother and a lot of her cousins left Landskron in 1946. I have some things I can share, if you are interested. For example, our relatives owned a popular restaurant, I have a copy of the big handwritten book of recipes that they used for a lot of the traditional dishes. > > I also have a lot of old photographs, these are personal items, not historical documents, so you may not be interested. I have been told that Landskron is considered Moravia, so I am not sure if this would work for you. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! > > > Dear List Members, > A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS newsletter > the Heimatbrief. > I had no response to my call…. > As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of interest > to put in your Heimatbrief! > I need you help! >> From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another issue > or > two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. > Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have > submitted articles for > the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many fine > submissions! > I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once lived > in the "homeland". > We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! > Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of German-Bohemian > immigrants, > I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life in the > "old country" or about > their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your stories!! > Will you helps us ? > Thank you! > Bob Paulson > Heimatbrief Editor > rpaulgb@yahoo.com > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aida, Thank you very much. Send the translation along when you get time. Still lots of rain!! Photo of my favorite park! Bob On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Aida Kraus wrote: > Bob, I got something for you. I translated a flyer about the Rudofsky > Villa at Bischofteinitz. It is enclosed. > Ulli and I are very good friends and especially since Frank Soural passed > away, we have been collaborating. He is not very active on our list, > because in his retirement he is building miniature model ships which they > are trading world wide. > Aida > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dear List Members, >> A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS >> newsletter the Heimatbrief. >> I had no response to my call…. >> As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of >> interest to put in your Heimatbrief! >> I need you help! >>> From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another >> issue or >> two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. >> Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have >> submitted articles for >> the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many >> fine submissions! >> I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once >> lived in the "homeland". >> We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! >> Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of >> German-Bohemian immigrants, >> I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life >> in the "old country" or about >> their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your >> stories!! >> Will you helps us ? >> Thank you! >> Bob Paulson >> Heimatbrief Editor >> rpaulgb@yahoo.com >> >> >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You should join the Landskron list at Ancestry. Link here: http://boards.ancestrylibrary.com/localities.ceeurope.histreg.moravia/77.399/mb.ashx Since Landskron is in Moravia, not Bohemia, you would be better served on their list. We try to help out, but our expertise is more in Bohemia than Moravia. Good luck! Otherwise use your browser for more information. Like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan%C5%A1kroun And this link should be read just about by anyone interested in their German-Bohemian-Moravian ancestors: http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/stephen-w-walkley/the-germans-in-bohemia-moravia-and-silesia--with-two-maps-hci/page-2-the-germans-in-bohemia-moravia-and-silesia--with-two-maps-hci.shtml Aida Aida On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:26 AM, James Vait <jimvaiteek@aol.com> wrote: > I would love to hear about landskron. My g-grndfatheris from Michelsdorf. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mmshiffer <mmshiffer@aol.com> > To: german-bohemian <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 7:12 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! > > > > Bob, > > My mother and a lot of her cousins left Landskron in 1946. I have some > things I > can share, if you are interested. For example, our relatives owned a > popular > restuarant, I have a copy of the big handwritten book of recipes that they > used > for a lot of the traditional dishes. > > I also have a lot of old photographs, these are personal items, not > historical > documents, so you may not be interested. I have been told that Landskron > is > considered Moravia, so I am not sure if this would work for you. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! > > > Dear List Members, > A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS > newsletter > the Heimatbrief. > I had no response to my call…. > As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of > interest > to put in your Heimatbrief! > I need you help! > >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another > issue > or > two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. > Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have > submitted articles for > the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many > fine > submissions! > I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once > lived > > in the "homeland". > We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! > Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of > German-Bohemian > immigrants, > I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life > in the > "old country" or about > their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your > stories!! > Will you helps us ? > Thank you! > Bob Paulson > Heimatbrief Editor > rpaulgb@yahoo.com > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would love to hear about landskron. My g-grndfatheris from Michelsdorf. -----Original Message----- From: mmshiffer <mmshiffer@aol.com> To: german-bohemian <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 7:12 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! Bob, My mother and a lot of her cousins left Landskron in 1946. I have some things I can share, if you are interested. For example, our relatives owned a popular restuarant, I have a copy of the big handwritten book of recipes that they used for a lot of the traditional dishes. I also have a lot of old photographs, these are personal items, not historical documents, so you may not be interested. I have been told that Landskron is considered Moravia, so I am not sure if this would work for you. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! Dear List Members, A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS newsletter the Heimatbrief. I had no response to my call…. As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of interest to put in your Heimatbrief! I need you help! >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another issue or two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have submitted articles for the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many fine submissions! I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once lived in the "homeland". We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of German-Bohemian immigrants, I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life in the "old country" or about their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your stories!! Will you helps us ? Thank you! Bob Paulson Heimatbrief Editor rpaulgb@yahoo.com German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, My mother and a lot of her cousins left Landskron in 1946. I have some things I can share, if you are interested. For example, our relatives owned a popular restuarant, I have a copy of the big handwritten book of recipes that they used for a lot of the traditional dishes. I also have a lot of old photographs, these are personal items, not historical documents, so you may not be interested. I have been told that Landskron is considered Moravia, so I am not sure if this would work for you. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! Dear List Members, A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS newsletter the Heimatbrief. I had no response to my call…. As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of interest to put in your Heimatbrief! I need you help! >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another issue or two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have submitted articles for the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many fine submissions! I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once lived in the "homeland". We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of German-Bohemian immigrants, I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life in the "old country" or about their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your stories!! Will you helps us ? Thank you! Bob Paulson Heimatbrief Editor rpaulgb@yahoo.com German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all for your input. I currently use Rootsmagic v.5, which lets me put in whatever I want for the place name. I can put in present-day names for the location or I can put in the names of the places as they existed back at the time of the event (which is how I prefer to do it). When did the jurisdictions of Pfraumberg and Tachau come into being? Would I use them in this citation? I want to cite the location as it existed in 1865. The record has columns where the creator of the record could mark whether the marrying parties were catholic, protestant, their ages, single or widowed, with additional space for signatures of witnesses and notes. It looks like the priest (or whoever created the record) went back to original church books to look up the birth dates of the bride and groom, as there seem to be book and folio numbers. According to the Actapublica website, this is a record of the Roman Catholic church. Brandt

Mary, Of course I am interested. Many Landsknoners immigrated to the Watertown Wisconsin area in the 1850's. Thank you so much for your willingness to share your treasures with us. Regards, Bob Paulson On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:06 PM, mmshiffer@aol.com wrote: > > Bob, > > My mother and a lot of her cousins left Landskron in 1946. I have some things I can share, if you are interested. For example, our relatives owned a popular restaurant, I have a copy of the big handwritten book of recipes that they used for a lot of the traditional dishes. > > I also have a lot of old photographs, these are personal items, not historical documents, so you may not be interested. I have been told that Landskron is considered Moravia, so I am not sure if this would work for you. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Heimatbrief Needs You! > > > Dear List Members, > A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS newsletter > the Heimatbrief. > I had no response to my call…. > As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of interest > to put in your Heimatbrief! > I need you help! >> From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another issue > or > two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. > Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have > submitted articles for > the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many fine > submissions! > I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once lived > in the "homeland". > We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! > Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of German-Bohemian > immigrants, > I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life in the > "old country" or about > their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your stories!! > Will you helps us ? > Thank you! > Bob Paulson > Heimatbrief Editor > rpaulgb@yahoo.com > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, I got something for you. I translated a flyer about the Rudofsky Villa at Bischofteinitz. It is enclosed. Ulli and I are very good friends and especially since Frank Soural passed away, we have been collaborating. He is not very active on our list, because in his retirement he is building miniature model ships which they are trading world wide. Aida On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear List Members, > A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS > newsletter the Heimatbrief. > I had no response to my call…. > As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of > interest to put in your Heimatbrief! > I need you help! > >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another > issue or > two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. > Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have > submitted articles for > the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many > fine submissions! > I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once > lived in the "homeland". > We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! > Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of > German-Bohemian immigrants, > I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life > in the "old country" or about > their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your > stories!! > Will you helps us ? > Thank you! > Bob Paulson > Heimatbrief Editor > rpaulgb@yahoo.com > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brandt, I think that actapublica.eu is a joint project between different countries and institutions. I believe it's hosted, however, by the Moravian Provincial Archives in Brně. You might use that information for your source repository, but I'd recommend using a source citation that uses the author (e.g., church or civil institution) of the document as the lead element. For the 1865 place name, you should use the ecclesiastical or political jurisdictions as seen in the source document. If your genealogy software fully supports the GEDCOM 5.5 standard from 1995, then it should allow you to define this. If not, you may need to conform to some prescribed way of entering it, and you should, as Aida suggested, make note of that actual location elsewhere. Or, if you're not too deep into using your current software program, consider changing to one better suited to your needs. If the source material is a religious document, e.g., parish register, then I wouldn't know what to recommend for the ecclesiastical jurisdictions. Perhaps someone on this list has a map or historical information on the religious institution that produced it. If the source material is a civil marriage register, then you'd use political jurisdictions. In that case, I think in 1865 it would have been the "Austrian Empire" without the Hungarian, i.e., ..., Königreich Böhmen, Kaiserthum Oesterreich. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Empire Hope that helps! Marco in Minneapolis

Dear List Members, A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS newsletter the Heimatbrief. I had no response to my call…. As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of interest to put in your Heimatbrief! I need you help! >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another issue or two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have submitted articles for the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many fine submissions! I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once lived in the "homeland". We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of German-Bohemian immigrants, I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life in the "old country" or about their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your stories!! Will you helps us ? Thank you! Bob Paulson Heimatbrief Editor rpaulgb@yahoo.com

Rosshaupt/Rozvadov is and was Kreis/Bezirk Tachau/Tachov with the Court/Gericht in Pfraumberg/Primda. Herb Schwarz,Ontario,Canada. - as a young boy I regularly visited Rosshaupt with my father, the local Physician from Pfraumberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandt Gibson" <ironhide781@hotmail.com> To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Location question > > > > > Thanks to the help of a family member, I found the marriage record for my > great-great-grandmother's parents, Theresia Dorfler and Johann Zitzmann, > in the actapublica.eu archives for Rozvadov (book 18, folio 15). My > question is, when adding this event to my genealogy database, how do I > cite this source? Is it a government archives website, or a private > company? Also, how do I find out what jurisdiction(s) Rosshaupt/Rozvadov > was in at the time (1865)? I've been told it's in the district of Eger, > kingdom of Bohemia, in the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Would I just enter it > as Rosshaupt, Eger, Bohemia, AHE? I'm still very new at doing research in > this part of the world, so please excuse my ignorance if this is an easy > answer. Thanks, Brandt > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob, while I am not able to produce an article of my own, at the present time, I have resources to articles from other publications that are not well known among our GBHS readership. If you like, I will forward some of them to you (for your perusal) to judge what would be of interest to our group. Most of it is not directly associated with Bohemia, but might be of interest to the readership of German descent. If anyone has older material about the Monarchy, this should also provide some good reading. Many of us have old literature and could look there to select some very interesting reading. Aida On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear List Members, > A few days ago I posted a message calling for articles for the GBHS > newsletter the Heimatbrief. > I had no response to my call…. > As the editor, I am having a very difficult time finding material of > interest to put in your Heimatbrief! > I need you help! > >From my own research findings, I would have enough material for another > issue or > two of the Heimatbrief, but after that I am not so sure. > Over the years many of you, particularly Aida Kraus and Karen Hobbs, have > submitted articles for > the Newsletter. Aida and Karen have been godsends for us with many, many > fine submissions! > I have been amazed at the number of you that have indicated that you once > lived in the "homeland". > We, so much, would like to hear your stories of life there!! > Those of you who are first or second generation descendants of > German-Bohemian immigrants, > I am sure, you have stories from you parents and grandparents about life > in the "old country" or about > their experiences coming to the U.S. We would also like to hear your > stories!! > Will you helps us ? > Thank you! > Bob Paulson > Heimatbrief Editor > rpaulgb@yahoo.com > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And by the way, Herbert Schwarz is absolutely right, I should have caught that it is in the Tachau area, since my husbands grandfather is also from there. So this is what they have on the German site. Aida ---- see below - *Roßhaupt*, č. Rozvadov Gemeinde, Bez. Tachau<http://www.genealogy.net/reg/SUD/kreise.html#wbtachau>, GBez. Pfraumberg, W B; mit Ströbl, Zirk 1441 Ew. (1415 d.); P., n.E. Waidhaus in Bayern. Schulen: 3-klas. gemischte Bürgerschule, 4-klas. gem. Volksschule. 1930 hat Roßhaupt in 131 Häusern und 6 Einschichten 784 Einwohner. Seit 1630 besteht in Roßhaupt ein Zollamt. Kirchenbuchverzeichnis des Pfarrbezirks Roßhaupt<http://www.genealogy.net/reg/SUD/kb/rosshaupt.html>, mit Pfarrorten: Roßhaupt, Ströbl, Zirk; *zeitweise:* Reichenthal, Türkenhäusel, Waidhaus *(in Bayern)*. - *TRANSLATION: District of Tachau, County Pfraumberg West Bohemia with (village) Ströbl, approx. 1441 population of which 1415 were Germans. The Border is at Waidhaus in Bavaria. Schools: 3 classes Highschool (mixed, means boys and girls), 4 classes grammar school (mixed) In 1930 Rosshaupt had 131 houses and 6 "Einschichten" which meas that there are 6 smaller surrounding settlements with 784 population. It had a "Zollamt" which is a customhouse, government office where customs and duties are paid and transports are cleared. * - And if you click on the blue line, you will get to the "inventory of records" for Rosshaupt, and the surrounding villages of Ströbl, Zirk; Reichenthal, Türkenhäusel, Waidhaus *(in Bayern)*. The border there was sort of "marbled" among the German population between Waidhaus in Bavaria and Rosshaupt in Bohemia. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Herbert Schwarz <schwarzs@ebtech.net>wrote: > Rosshaupt/Rozvadov is and was Kreis/Bezirk Tachau/Tachov with the > Court/Gericht in Pfraumberg/Primda. Herb Schwarz,Ontario,Canada. - as a > young boy I regularly visited Rosshaupt with my father, the local Physician > from Pfraumberg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandt Gibson" <ironhide781@hotmail.com> > To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:17 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Location question > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to the help of a family member, I found the marriage record for my > > great-great-grandmother's parents, Theresia Dorfler and Johann Zitzmann, > > in the actapublica.eu archives for Rozvadov (book 18, folio 15). My > > question is, when adding this event to my genealogy database, how do I > > cite this source? Is it a government archives website, or a private > > company? Also, how do I find out what jurisdiction(s) Rosshaupt/Rozvadov > > was in at the time (1865)? I've been told it's in the district of Eger, > > kingdom of Bohemia, in the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Would I just enter > it > > as Rosshaupt, Eger, Bohemia, AHE? I'm still very new at doing research in > > this part of the world, so please excuse my ignorance if this is an easy > > answer. Thanks, Brandt > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brandt, the way you stated it, is absolutely correct, however, if you use a Genealogical Program, your input will be overruled to present day geography, so it will say Rosvadov, Czech Republic. Historically this is totally wrong, because at that time, the Czech Republic did not exist But it is set up this way so that people can find the geographical location on present day maps. So here is what I suggest you do. On the Profile card of your ancestors, you will find a space for "comments" or "event" or "Miscellaneous information". Click on that to open......It is there where you can write a short explanation or cite a reference source. Aida On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Brandt Gibson <ironhide781@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Thanks to the help of a family member, I found the marriage record for my > great-great-grandmother's parents, Theresia Dorfler and Johann Zitzmann, in > the actapublica.eu archives for Rozvadov (book 18, folio 15). My question > is, when adding this event to my genealogy database, how do I cite this > source? Is it a government archives website, or a private company? Also, > how do I find out what jurisdiction(s) Rosshaupt/Rozvadov was in at the > time (1865)? I've been told it's in the district of Eger, kingdom of > Bohemia, in the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Would I just enter it as > Rosshaupt, Eger, Bohemia, AHE? I'm still very new at doing research in this > part of the world, so please excuse my ignorance if this is an easy answer. > Thanks, Brandt > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to the help of a family member, I found the marriage record for my great-great-grandmother's parents, Theresia Dorfler and Johann Zitzmann, in the actapublica.eu archives for Rozvadov (book 18, folio 15). My question is, when adding this event to my genealogy database, how do I cite this source? Is it a government archives website, or a private company? Also, how do I find out what jurisdiction(s) Rosshaupt/Rozvadov was in at the time (1865)? I've been told it's in the district of Eger, kingdom of Bohemia, in the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Would I just enter it as Rosshaupt, Eger, Bohemia, AHE? I'm still very new at doing research in this part of the world, so please excuse my ignorance if this is an easy answer. Thanks, Brandt

??? On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Brandt Gibson <ironhide781@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mark Thank you for the reply. All I have on Barbara is that she was born in circa 1803 in Austria????, not too sure about the place. She married Anastas JANTSCH some time prior to 1842 Josef was born. I do not know if they had any other children. They lived in Janov nad Nisou. Do you know anything about these families. Cheers Jan -----Original Message----- From: Mark Prokosch Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:16 AM To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Jantsch Hello Jan: I would be very interested in anything you find for Barbara (nee PROKOP) JANTSCH.... Prokop apparently was how Prokosch was spelled in German??? Most of the Prokosch/Prokop were from the Trohatin/Drahotin area.... Mark Prokosch -----Original Message----- From: german-bohemian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:german-bohemian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jan.crawford2359@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:49 PM To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Jantsch Hi, I am looking for help in finding descendants of Josef and Anna (nee KITTEL) JANTSCH from Janov nad Nisou. Josef was born in 1842 and Anna was born in 1841, they married in about 1864. They came to Australia in 1877. Josef is the son of Anastas and Barbara (nee PROKOP) JANTSCH. They lived in Janov nad Nisou. I would appreciate any help on this matter thank you. Thank you all in advance cheers Jan Crawford German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am looking for help in finding descendants of Josef and Anna (nee KITTEL) JANTSCH from Janov nad Nisou. Josef was born in 1842 and Anna was born in 1841, they married in about 1864. They came to Australia in 1877. Josef is the son of Anastas and Barbara (nee PROKOP) JANTSCH. They lived in Janov nad Nisou. I would appreciate any help on this matter thank you. Thank you all in advance cheers Jan Crawford