More from Rootsweb Review 9 Nov: Note that Ancestry.com is as subscription service for individuals. However there are some public libraries that have a subscription that allows library patrons to use the service for free if you can figure out how to do it. Computers with Internet connections at LDS Family History Centers also allow use of the LDS subscription to Ancestry.com. Volunteers at your FHC may be able to show you how it works. --------------------------------------- Ancestry.com announces completion of the WWI Draft Registration Card Collection, which contains about 24 million names. These cards are particularly useful because they represent everyone that registered for the draft, including many that never served in the military. The collection does not include all active military during this period, but 98 percent of men under the age of 46 in the U.S. completed a registration card in 1917 and 1918. These cards often provide: Full name; home address, date and place of birth; age, race, and country of citizenship; occupation and employer, and physical description (hair and eye color, height, any disabilities). Other information that might be included is address of nearest or dependent relatives, marital status, father's birthplace, or previous exemption from military service, and their signature. Subscribers to Ancestry.com will be able to access these valuable genealogical records. If you have an ancestor or relative who was between the ages of 18 and 45 from 1917 to 1918 (born ca 1872-1900) you may be able to find him in this database. http://www.ancestry.com/ Karen

Posted on Rootsweb Newsletter. 9 November: SSDI UPDATED. RootsWeb offers access to the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), which includes records through September 2005. This free database contains several important bits of information on the more 76,057,145 persons whose deaths are on file with the U.S.'s Social Security Administration (SSA), including: social security number, date of issuance, state of issuance, date of birth, date of death, and last address of record. The SSDI is created from the SSA's Death Master File. It is a database of people whose deaths were reported to the SSA beginning about 1962. The SSA Death Master File and SSDI are used by leading U.S. government, financial, investigative, credit-reporting organization, medical research, and other industries to verify identity as well as to prevent fraud -- and to comply with the U.S. Patriot Act. http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/ http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/lesson10.htm

Thank you for the help, I found it.....it is between Harlosee and Pollschitz, SE of Tepl. Aida

I am looking for a hamlet called Rössin in the area of Tepl. Can anyone enlighten me! I cannot find it in any of the conventional searches. Aida

Dear Ulrike, Thank you for your offer. I am researching the Joseph Schott family. I have found a number of Schott's in the Karlsbad region as well as Zinnwald and Zwickau. Some are listed as being near Marienbad. Could you please consult your reference for the names Schott, Sott or Sott (with a hacek). The name could also be Schultt but this spelling is unlikely. Thank you David Schott -----Original Message----- From: Ulrike Clevenger [mailto:ulrikeg5@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:14 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Heimat Buch Marienbad Hi everyone, I don't usually post to this list, but follow it avidly. I did want to mention though, in case it might help someone out, that I brought back a set of Heimat Buecher for the Marienbad area from my trip to Germany this summer, and would be willing to look things up. The books cover each village with inhabitants listed, their family member sand professions, and a little bit of history from just before the "Vertreibung". There are also some pictures of homes in each town. Happy hunting, Ulrike ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Hi, And have a surname Buch in this book? Excuse my poor English. I am from Brazil Leni Buch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulrike Clevenger" <ulrikeg5@hotmail.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Heimat Buch Marienbad > Hi everyone, I don't usually post to this list, but follow it avidly. > > I did want to mention though, in case it might help someone out, that I brought back a set of Heimat Buecher for the Marienbad area from my trip to Germany this summer, and would be willing to look things up. The books cover each village with inhabitants listed, their family member sand professions, and a little bit of history from just before the "Vertreibung". There are also some pictures of homes in each town. > > Happy hunting, > > Ulrike > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 05/11/05 > >

Hi everyone, I don't usually post to this list, but follow it avidly. I did want to mention though, in case it might help someone out, that I brought back a set of Heimat Buecher for the Marienbad area from my trip to Germany this summer, and would be willing to look things up. The books cover each village with inhabitants listed, their family member sand professions, and a little bit of history from just before the "Vertreibung". There are also some pictures of homes in each town. Happy hunting, Ulrike

My ancestor was living in Germany circa 1776 and was conscripted to fight in America during the Revolution, however, it is thought that he was not actually from Germany. I am wondering if this is a Bohemian surname and, if so, how would I go about contacting other individuals with this surname? I have heard that it is a unique surname. Thanks.

Hello Karen, I believe you have a good understanding about German Bohemian era military records. I need help believing a statement I just found in a relative's family tree relating to my gg grandfather from Amplatz, Bohemia. The statement referred to Johann Wiltscheck, before emigrating to U.S. in 1871, having to spend two years in prison for "sending his son to America in order to avoid the draft." Could that be true? If so, any idea how one could prove that? I would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Gary Wiltscheck

Dear Kathy, Thank you very much for responding to house # 41. It's encouraging to hear success stories like yours. I'm hopeful my Grand parent's home, after at least 130 years, will still be standing. Kind regards, Ray Klapka -----Original Message----- From: richard anderson <andyandkathy@cox.net> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:23:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? We have a researcher in Trebova do genealogy for us and the house they lived in are still there with the same no.... Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hushala6@wmconnect.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? > Dear Sir, > My Mother's house was in Dubi. I meant that if my Mother's house was still > there after 109 years of her birth, it would be possible for your # 41 in > Trebova being in Trebova also. Sorry for not explaining it better. > Gloria > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Dear Gloria, Thanks for writing back and giving me hope about my Grandparents house # 41. I glad you had success on your search in Dubi. Kind regards, Ray Klapka -----Original Message----- From: Hushala6@wmconnect.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:55:33 EST Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? Dear Sir, My Mother's house was in Dubi. I meant that if my Mother's house was still there after 109 years of her birth, it would be possible for your # 41 in Trebova being in Trebova also. Sorry for not explaining it better. Gloria ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

Hi Ray if you want to send me your email I have a paper quite interesting I will send you. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <rtklapka@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? > Dear Kathy, > > Thank you very much for responding to house # 41. It's encouraging to > hear success stories like yours. I'm hopeful my Grand parent's home, > after at least 130 years, will still be standing. > > Kind regards, > > Ray Klapka > > -----Original Message----- > From: richard anderson <andyandkathy@cox.net> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:23:47 -0800 > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? > > We have a researcher in Trebova do genealogy for us and the house they > lived > in are still there with the same no.... Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hushala6@wmconnect.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? > > > > Dear Sir, > > My Mother's house was in Dubi. I meant that if my Mother's house was > still > > there after 109 years of her birth, it would be possible for your # > 41 in > > Trebova being in Trebova also. Sorry for not explaining it better. > > Gloria > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > >

Dear Sir, My Mother's house was in Dubi. I meant that if my Mother's house was still there after 109 years of her birth, it would be possible for your # 41 in Trebova being in Trebova also. Sorry for not explaining it better. Gloria

We have a researcher in Trebova do genealogy for us and the house they lived in are still there with the same no.... Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hushala6@wmconnect.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? > Dear Sir, > My Mother's house was in Dubi. I meant that if my Mother's house was still > there after 109 years of her birth, it would be possible for your # 41 in > Trebova being in Trebova also. Sorry for not explaining it better. > Gloria > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >

In a message dated 11/5/2005 10:17:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, CRFTYCHRIS@aol.com writes: If what I've learned from this site is that he would have had to service 7 years and his military obligation would have been complete. Where would I have to write to get his military records? The rules in 1881 were 1) Draft exam after 19th birthday, induction after 20th birhtday. 2) 3 years on active duty 3) 9 years following in the reserve. There are exceptions to the general active duty rule but use it as a good guideline to get started. If the ancestor was well-educated (at least to 6th class) he could have volunteered and served only one year and was not liable for any reserve time. He also had to have funds to buy / furnish his own uniform and kit if he volunteerd. Men on active duty could not marry or emigrate. Men in the reserves could not emigrate until discharged at the end of 5 years or whenever that happened. Military records of men who served after 1880 may be in the LDS film: Grundbuchblatter Diverse as long as they were from Bohemia or Moravia or Austrian Silesia. I would search that film first. It may also include earlier ancestors -- select all the documents with your surname(s) and sort them out as possibile ancestors or relatives when you can print them out and lay them side by side. LDS also has regimental records (Grundbuchblatter) up to about 1870. You need the place of birth to know the right regiment to search. Otherwise, if they exist they would be in the military archive in Prague. Prague archivists do not process individual requests by mail. It is best to ask a Czech researcher to go there and find out what they have. You must pay a fee even if there is nothing -- researchers have to cover their time and travel, parkuing and archive fees. Many of these old records disappeared after WW II when the then military archive building was used as barracks for Russian troops. Karen

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Hi, Thanks again for all the information on Ittner. I would also like to know how to get the Military record for my Grandfather Franz Ittner. He would have been 18 yrs old in 1881 and I know he served in the calvery. He lived in Ober Neugruen which has located in the Falkenau reqion and I believe he served his full time in the military before coming to America in 1890. If what I've learned from this site is that he would have had to service 7 years and his military obligation would have been complete. Where would I have to write to get his military records? Thanks in advance for any and all help Chris

Dear Gloria, Thank you for writing in response to house number 41. My Grandfather's house is in the Moravska Trebova (Mahrisch Trubau) area. Was your Mother's house in Dubi or Moravska Trebova? I would like to get a copy of any pictures of house 41 in Moravska Trebova. Thanks again. Kind regards, Ray Klapka -----Original Message----- From: Hushala6@wmconnect.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:39:14 EST Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Moravian House Numbers? Dear Sir, I was in what today is Dubi in the Czech Republic, formerly Eichwald, in 1996 and I found the house my Mother was born in, in 1887. I had pictures and the address of the house so know I had the correct one. It is posable that your # 41 is there also. Gloria G. ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Dear Sir, I was in what today is Dubi in the Czech Republic, formerly Eichwald, in 1996 and I found the house my Mother was born in, in 1887. I had pictures and the address of the house so know I had the correct one. It is posable that your # 41 is there also. Gloria G.

In a message dated 11/4/2005 5:28:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, akibb1@verizon.net writes: This seems to me almost unworkable. I agree with Aida. In general it is unworkable unless one of us would write to Sweden for records of German-bohemians who settled there. I don't know how one would get those records otherwise. That is when the research would probably hit a wall be cause the Swedish authorities would probably have to demand that all the required permissions be presenjted. I can imagine one scenario for a family of German-Bohemian ancestry who were the only surviving representatives of two G-B families and who fled to Sweden during the war. Assume that there may have been only one son born in the first generation and he had only one son with a woman who was an only daughter of other G-B immigrants.. The woman had no living relatives when she married . When the two of them died their only daughter went to the US. The daughter's only child now wants a marriage and death record of the grandparents and she must furnish "permission" from living relatives (there are none in the U.S. and if there are any in Germany they are unknown). What proof can Sweden possibly demand that there are no living relatives? How can they verify whatever is presented as authentic.? If someone publishes an Internet website just for family members with the password, how will Sweden know what it on it? For that matter how will they know what is out there at all -- are they going to have experts who surf constantly looking for offenders who have published Swedish surnames without the permissions required? And then what can they do about it if the offender is not a Swedish citizen?? I suspect that the worst case scenario will be that the LDS respects the Swedish law and will not release any Swedish records without some sort of documentation related to necessary permission. They have found a way to deal with privacy laws in Eastern Europe that impede research and so have many of the EE archivists. Access is not denied at SLC as long as a researcher signs a certain "permission form". However the LDS will not circulate any filmed records that contain ANY documents dated earlier than 100 years old for many EE lands. This affects a lot of Austrian military records among others - they can only be viewed in SLC. But there are provisions for SLC professionals to look at them for a client. Some of these pros charge a "single item fee" of $100. That can be cheap compared to the cost of a trip to SLC.. Karen