and here is another one (from Aida) - so there is one after all! Vermerovice 50°00' 16°34' E M U Czech Republic 93.3 miles E of Praha Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <bklecker@pressenter.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Vermerovice > > > I am have been let to understand that one of my immigrant familes the > duseks canme from Vermeroivce #44, is this still a town in Bohemia today, > and where can I find records on same? thanks Barb > > Also another Bohemian family came from #95 Horni Tresnevoec, again same > questions. Thanks Again Barb > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Barb, looking at this name, I have a hunch that it could be Moravice, "ve" is a grammatical prefix meaning "in" so "Ve Merovice" would mean "In Merovice" -- Tell me if you copied this from a document, or if this is phonetic. Look in the Olomouc (Olmütz) area there is this: Merovice nad Hanou - Review information - Turistik.cz Search in Czech Republic :. << back. You are here : Turistik.cz » Czech Republic Guide » Merovice nad Hanou » Review information ... merovice-nad-hanou.turistik.cz/en/ - 17k - Cached - Similar pages Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <bklecker@pressenter.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Vermerovice > > > I am have been let to understand that one of my immigrant familes the > duseks canme from Vermeroivce #44, is this still a town in Bohemia today, > and where can I find records on same? thanks Barb > > Also another Bohemian family came from #95 Horni Tresnevoec, again same > questions. Thanks Again Barb > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

There must be a spelling error. Perhaps you should to on the Czech Bohemian website. I am getting this message Your search - Vermeroivce - did not match any documents. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <bklecker@pressenter.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Vermerovice > > > I am have been let to understand that one of my immigrant familes the > duseks canme from Vermeroivce #44, is this still a town in Bohemia today, > and where can I find records on same? thanks Barb > > Also another Bohemian family came from #95 Horni Tresnevoec, again same > questions. Thanks Again Barb > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

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Found at Alibris.com for $2.95. The uprooted; the epic story of the great migrations that made the American people by Handlin, Oscar About this title: Awarded the 1952 Pulitzer Prize in history, The Uprooted chronicles the common experiences of the millions of European immigrants who came to America in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries -- their fears, their hopes, their expectations. In order to bring forward the human story preserved in government records, newspaper accounts, and personal correspondence, the author chose to write this history as a literary narrative unencumbered with notations and academic jargon. The result is literary history at its best. The New Yorker called it "strong stuff, handled in a masterly and... read more Note: The synopsis above is drawn from available information about this title. Details about specific copies and editions for sale are in the listings displayed below.

The book review below references: Oscar Handlin in _The Uprooted_ (Boston: Little Brown, 1951. I would recommend "The Uprooted" for anyone interested in the forces that drove people to emigrate and inspired them to succeed in the US. The book may be available in paperback from Alibris or Amazon or other used booksellers. It should also be available for interlibrary loan. It is worth having a copy as a reference -- I go back to reread sections of mine fairly often. Karen H-NET BOOK REVIEW Published by H-German@h-net.msu.edu (September 2005) Anke Ortlepp. _"Auf denn, Ihr Schwestern!": Deutschamerikanische Frauenvereine in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 1844-1914_. Transatlantische Historische Studien, 17. Stuttgart: Franz Steiner Verlag, 2004. 309 pp. Appendix, bibliography, index. EUR 37.00 (cloth), ISBN 3-5150-8405-3. Reviewed for H-German by Janet M. C. Walmsley, Department of History and Art History, George Mason University Civic Duty and Cultural Heritage At first glance, Anke Ortlepp's study of German-American women might seem to be of minimal interest: the study group is small, the location (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) of relatively little significance in American history. However, the focus of Ortlepp's discussion is the largest German community in the United States. In 1860, 75 percent of the population of Milwaukee was of German origin (p. 36). She is quick to point out that these immigrants made their community a "little Germany," calling Milwaukee a "German Athens on Lake Michigan," not the insular and isolated "ghettoized" immigrant world described by Oscar Handlin in _The Uprooted_ (Boston: Little Brown, 1951, pp. 36-37). The civic associations created by the women Ortlepp studies served to bridge the old and the new, preserving German culture and traditions for those well-settled in the United States, while easing the transition to a very different world for the newly arrived. Assimilation and preservation were the twin goals of these groups and this study of their efforts paints a strong portrait of the lives of Germans in the United States in the second half of the nineteenth century. Those two purposes were inherently at odds, however, and as assimilation or acculturation progressed, the imperative to preserve a distinct German communal identity declined. Ortlepp traces this paradox of immigration history as she assesses the women's organizations that rose up and then faded away across the seventy years of her study. The story of women's civic associations begins in the early 1840s with organizations that were created to ease the transition of the newly arrived immigrants. The groups did not limit themselves to finding housing and work for the newcomers, however. From the start, many civic associations were formed by both men and women and they had strong political motives. Such motives were especially important for those fleeing the failed _Vormärz_ of 1848 who arrived in the region. These people did not leave their radical politics behind when they came to the United States. As political tensions grew through the 1850s and into the 1860s over slavery and states' rights, the German-American community was deeply involved, committed to the abolitionist cause. Women's groups turned their attention to raising funds to support German-American men fighting in the American Civil War, and they continued these efforts into the 1870s, demonstrating their continued connection to their homeland, for those who fought in the wars leading to German unification. A point Ortlepp is careful to stress is that German women did not take a significant part in the women's rights and suffrage movements. They were interested, to be sure, but not as committed to gaining political rights and privileges for women as were Anglo-American women's groups. The women in this study were not focused on national political goals, but rather on local civic issues such as education, religion, cultural traditions, and social welfare. Ortlepp's study builds gradually; each chapter lays out the context in which the women's groups would form, in the larger construct of both German and American current events and in terms of Milwaukee's history. This strategy results in some repetition, which is not helped by the repetitive story of the groups she then discusses. Ortlepp begins with the earliest women's organizations, which were confessional associations--in particular, German-Catholic women's groups concerned with encouraging domestic ideals and protecting public morality, _häusliches Glück_ and _Versittlichung_ (p. 49). This focus fits into the notions of the "cult of true womanhood" and community building cited by many scholars as causes for women's activism in the nineteenth century. She then goes on to describe various welfare organizations (religious and secular), education groups, labor and political activists, and finally benevolent associations or lodges. With each group, the list of activities and the membership information is scanty. Ortlepp acknowledges several times that very few detailed records for these groups survive; they were short-lived to begin with and the groups were quite small. They operated in defined districts in the city, so their concerns focused most often on their neighborhoods' problems alone and thus did not attract a great deal of notice in the newspapers, one of the sources Ortlepp uses most widely. Her other archival sources include parish records and the records of individual groups but, while she is able to give a general picture, she is not able to provide any great sense of "history from below" or of the women as individuals. Many of the women's groups formed as auxiliaries to men's organizations and often worked primarily to aid their activities. The clearest examples of this are the women's groups that arose alongside the _Turnvereine_ (pp. 98-131). These women's groups raised funds and provided support for the _Turnvereine_, as well as for other men's organizations, eschewing an independent existence or purpose centered on women's issues or concerns. The list of activities undertaken to raise funds by all the women's groups included lectures, literary readings, musical and dance performances, bazaars, picnics, and costumed balls. The stated purposes also remained the same: to raise money for the immediate needs of the community (building or renting schools, providing emergency unemployment assistance, aiding newcomers or those displaced by war, and so on) but also to create and preserve a sense of German community and heritage. The longest-lived of these organizations were those devoted to educational concerns. The groups sought to ensure instruction in German language and especially to provide quality education for girls as well as boys. Their efforts also included preserving German cultural traditions and heritage and many of their fund-raising affairs centered on German language performances and lectures. As the twentieth century began, it grew harder to preserve German language and culture due to the increasing assimilation of the German community. Few people did much more than speak German at home and the need or desire for formal education in reading and writing German lessened. Once that became the obvious trend, many of the education-oriented women's groups lost membership and faded away, in the same way earlier issue-oriented groups dissolved as their rationale for organization disappeared. Ortlepp finds a stronger voice when she turns her attention to political activism in her discussion of the _freie Gemeinde_ (the rational or free-thinker religious movement of the late nineteenth century), socialism, and labor unionism. The one strongly identified figure in this study plays a central role here. Mathilde Anneke and her husband Fritz Anneke had fled Germany in the wake of 1848; she was a women's rights activist in Germany and continued her efforts by participating in the American women's suffrage movement. She was also very active in the socialist labor movement. Ortlepp calls for a detailed biography of Annecke, and it seems as if this discussion is a prelude to just such an effort (pp. 153-162, 180-182). Left-wing activism, from labor unionism to communist political organization, is known for its broader goals. The women's groups that formed to support these efforts were less inclined to work for narrow local causes or women's issues. Instead, they supported the larger national goals of the working men's associations by raising funds and providing moral and material support. Their aims were focused on national workers' issues such as the right to unionize, bargain collectively, and strike. Women's labor unions were particularly interested in equal pay for equal work; the seamstresses' union took part in the strike year of 1886 alongside the Knights of Labor and other men's labor unions (p. 215-234). These groups were well outside the realm of Ortlepp's original focus on community-building, German-centered, women's organizations. The final groups Ortlepp studies are the sister organizations of fraternal lodges such as the _Hermanns-Söhne_. Fraternal lodges were more than simply sites of communal identity, despite the allure of secret rituals and strict membership requirements. For the women in the _Hermanns-Schwestern_, for example, lodge membership was a source of independence and security that extended the associational activities of the earlier organizations. Over time, lodges came to offer insurance for illness, disability, unemployment, and death, increasingly necessary in the growing economic uncertainty of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The strict standards of who was eligible for insurance indicates the element of continuing social and moral force that characterized the earliest women's organizations. However, Ortlepp notes that acculturation and assimilation into the new world were both the origin and the end result of the development of the lodges; membership set one apart based on ethnic origins and provided a place of cultural identity outside of everyday life. But the lodge system had no counterpart in Germany and instead followed the Anglo-American model of the Odd Fellow lodges and their female auxiliary, the Rebekahs. The very difference of this last study group is an odd ending for this study. Ortlepp builds from narrow, culturally-focused groups, gradually treating women's expanding interests in the political activism and radicalism of the socialist and communist groups, and then turns back with this concluding section to groups once again centered on more narrow, local, ethnic interests. This book would be of primary interest to state and local historians while providing insight to those interested in the growing fields of the history of women's civic associations and immigration history. As noted earlier, the scarce source material and repetition mean that this book has limited depth for a real understanding of who these women were, how or why they acted, their social status, and the connections they may have shared. The graphs and tables in the appendix give a numerical representation of membership, as well as Ortlepp could discern. For those not familiar with the lay-out of Milwaukee, her references to the various district divisions would have been helped with a map of the city. This is an interesting work for the light that it sheds on immigrant culture and on the tension that inevitably developed between the ties to the homeland and the blending of the old and the new worlds. Ortlepp stops her study in 1914, avoiding the problematic issues of World War One and the ultimate test for Germans in their new land. The strength of this work is the attention it brings to women's activism and the role women took in shaping their communities. The twin aims of these women's groups, cultural preservation balanced by the desire for assimilation into the new world, are the primary focus of the work and Ortlepp succeeds in bringing this aspect of the transatlantic experience to the fore. Copyright (c) 2005 by H-Net, all rights reserved. H-Net permits the redistribution and reprinting of this work for nonprofit, educational purposes, with full and accurate attribution to the author, web location, date of publication, originating list, and H-Net: Humanities & Social Sciences Online. For other uses contact the Reviews editorial staff: hbooks@mail.h-net.msu.edu.

In a message dated 11/10/2005 8:49:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, mtwigger@valornet.com writes: My goal is to find a location from their migration but I have no idea how to look for them in Austria. I they were from Bohmen, that is Bohemia. Bohemia was an Austrian crownland and all citizens of Bohemia were Austrian citizens. That is why they called themselves Austrian rather than Bohemian. So don't waste time looking for them in today's Republic of Austria. That is not where they lived. As a first search try: FamilySearch.org Anton Schembera - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Male Birth: About 1770 Boehmisch Truebau90, , , Austria Böhmisch Trubau is in Bohenia Johann Evangel Schembera - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Male Birth: 1841 Oberjohnsdorf, , Boehmen Koenigreich, Austria Oberjohnsdorf in Bohemia ROSINA SCHEMBERA - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Marriage: 18 NOV 1736 Jedli, Maehren Kroenlande, Austria Jedi in Moravia -- the easter part of the kingdom of Bohemia. Katharina SCHEMBERA - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Marriage: 25 NOV 1924 Eisgarn, , Niederoesterreich, Austria This marriage took place in the Republic of Austria but the bride could have been from Bohemia because the two shared a border. Using that search with oher names you list produce a lot of results for Germany in Wurttemburg, Bavaria and the Bavarian Pfalz (both bordering on Bohemia) but that was all. There were a lot of Schemberas in Texas per that search. Texas has a relatively large group of people with Moravian ancestry and I would guess those Schemberas might be Moravian like Rosina Schembera above. Just baseed on that I would probably start my search in Moravia. Karen 9.

I have been a member of this list for some time hoping for a ray of hope with my ancestors, Ignatz born 1837 and Therese Strock Schembera b 1843, who migrated to the US arriving in June,1874 abord the SS Ohio. They migrated from Breman. The ship record says they came from BOHEM AUSTRIA. They settled in Pierce City, Missouri and I have ordered death records of their children hoping for a ray of light. This has not helped. I am unable to locate naturalization records even though the cencus states they were naturalized. I know they were married and had three children when they arrived, Therese, Anna and Marie. My goal is to find a location from their migration but I have no idea how to look for them in Austria. I thank anyone in advance for advise or information. mtwigger@valornet.com

The information "Lutter am Barenberg" is really a "break through" and we can see this Johann's birthplace on a larger map of Germany between Hannover to the North and Kassel to the South. To refine the search find Salzgitter and Goslar if you nearly split the distance between these two towns you'll find Lutter am Barenberge at the Foothills of the Harz Mountains in Thueringen. Hessen is to the West closer to the Rhineland. If you go to this Url, you can see that the area is a favored vacation area with lots of hiking trails. There are several Nature clubs and environmentally dedicated people to keep the German forest intact. http://www.harzklub.de/zweigvereine/lutter.html I have checked the Goslar, Salzgitter and Lutter am Barenberge Telephone books - there are no Ruhr or Ruerschneck listed. If they schow up around Nuernberg, they may have moved, because it was so veryclose to the East German border. As you are checking all sources, things will eventually reveal themselves; so just keep plugging away and give it time and don't forget to keep a notebook or a file to store all these informations. You will go back to these many times. Aida

My Ruhr ancestor came from the Tyssa area of Bohemia. Do you suppose there might be a connection with these surnames? Celine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet E. Rasnick" <herasnick@comcast.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] The Rührschneck Surname > Karen: > > Thanks so very much for the abundance of information. It will keep me busy > for a long time. I remain optimistic. > > Harriet > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > archive. > >

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Karen: Thanks so very much for the abundance of information. It will keep me busy for a long time. I remain optimistic. Harriet

Have you searched for his church marriage record, baptismal records of children...they will probably have his birthplace. ________ Lavrentiy Krupniak "Harriet E. Rasnick" wrote: > > Our early American findings are solid. We have him on muster rolls, etc. We > have a copy of his signature on a military document and we find him on all > the available census forms as he and his new wife moved from the Shenandoah > Valley of Virginia to Russell County VA. > > It is the European connection for this, supposedly, rare surname that we are > seeking. Where were his roots? Who were his parents? Siblings? Lifestyle, > etc. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <Lkrupnak@erols.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck > > > > > > > > > What early American records have you searched for concerning that > > family? > > > > > > _______ > > > > Lavrentiy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Harriet E. Rasnick" wrote: > >> > >> He stayed in American after the war, married, had children, Anglicized > >> his > >> name to Rasnick, etc. I was hoping that, if I could find someone in > >> Germany > >> with that same surname, they might be able to help with the genealogy. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Laurence Krupnak" <Lkrupnak@erols.com> > >> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:57 PM > >> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >> From: "Harriet E. Rasnick" <herasnick@comcast.net> > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Yes, he was a Hessian soldier. We have information once he arrived in > >> >> America, but the European connection is lost. Can you give me some > >> >> clues > >> >> as to where I should look? Thanks. > >> > > >> > ******** > >> > > >> > What research have you conducted so far? > >> > > >> > > >> > How long did he live in America after the war? > >> > > >> > > >> > ______ > >> > > >> > Lavrentiy Krupniak > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > >> > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > >> > list? > >> > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > >> > archive. > >> > > >> > >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > >> Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an archive.

----These troops came from Hesse Cassel, Hesse Hanau, Brunswick, Anspach, Bayreuth, Anhalt Zerbst and Waldeck. ----- These places become searchwords for the LDS FHC catalog. Using KEYWORD: emigration Hesse or emigration Germany Brunswick (I think that is Braunsweig in German so try emigration Braunsweig, too.) or emigration Ansbach (Anspach is an old spelling) or emigration Bayreuth or emigration (with any other place name) There are the following hits in German and English: Notes on Hessian soldiers who remained in Canada and the United States after the American Revolution, 1775-1784 / Smith, Clifford Neal Annotated Hessian chaplaincy record of the American Revolution, 1776-1783; christenings, marriages, deaths Smith, Clifford Neal These are perhaps the most important resouces. It is available for interlibrary loan from libraries all over the US. Just ask your local librarian to get it for you if they do not have it. Save the titles in German and search the WORLD CATALOG with them because you may find some have been translated and are also available in English from many / a few US University or public libraries. NEXT search KEYWORD: revolution hessian This has 64 titles and a lot of them are in English. I don't know how many might be on film but if you prin the list and take it to your local librarian you may find that many of the books are available for interlibrary loan if they are not on film at the LDS library. Karen

The site cited by Lou is a very good one because it has good genealogy references. Another site for more general information is: http://www.vondonop.org/HessianFAQ.html From that page: I have an ancestor who was a Hessian soldier, where can I get more information? It can be very hard to find information about Hessian soldiers in most cases. Some soldiers, namely those captured at Trenton, are listed in the appendix of the book "The Hessian view of America". There is an overall list of the fate of all soldiers from Hessen-Kassel (at least as far as their superior officers were concerned), in the "Hessische Truppen im Nord Amerika"(HETRINA) catalog. A partial copy exists in the David Library at Washington's Crossing, PA, another at the Rutgers library in New Brunswick, and copies are also owned by the Johannes Schwalm Historical Association and the Lancaster County Historical Society, and the University of Pennsylvania Library. Things that can help your search are knowing at what battle he was captured (or where he deserted), who he was paroled to, and so on. There are several newsgroups on the soc. hierarchy that may also be of help. In particular, the group soc.genealogy.german. Also, John Merz who owns "The Hessians" a website devoted to those German Auxiliary soldiers who settled in America after the Revolution, moderates a Hessian genealogy email list. This is an excellent resource to ask for genealogy information, get research tips, and get other information about Hessian soldiers and their descendants. To join the Hessian list, send email to AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com with the subject line blank and the only the word 'subscribe' in the message body.

I did the telephone book search. Thanks for the great information and guidance. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck > In a message dated 11/10/2005 4:12:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, > herasnick@comcast.net writes: > He stayed in American after the war, married, had children, Anglicized his > name to Rasnick, etc. I was hoping that, if I could find someone in > Germany with > that same surname, they might be able to help with the genealogy. > Schneck means snail or slug in German per my 1872 dictionary. > Ruhr is a river in northern Germany. > > Trying to figure out where that surname came from is a fun exercise > because > so many originated with a person's occupation or trade. Maybe way back > when > last names were first applied his ancestors manned slow rafts on the Rhur? > > It is possible that descendants (if the line did not die out) changed the > name to "Ruhr" or "Ruhrer" That is a fairly common name in the German > phone > book...more than 800. But if you limit the search to the place names the > soldiers came from it may sort out some places. > > http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/# > > The English option on the tabs near the top right center of the page may > not > be working at the moment but should be back up shortly. > > Ansbach and Bayreuth were mostly Catholic. If you know what religion he > was > that may help pick the right locations to look. > > There were no hits for the name Ruhr in Waldeck. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html >

In a message dated 11/10/2005 4:12:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, herasnick@comcast.net writes: He stayed in American after the war, married, had children, Anglicized his name to Rasnick, etc. I was hoping that, if I could find someone in Germany with that same surname, they might be able to help with the genealogy. Schneck means snail or slug in German per my 1872 dictionary. Ruhr is a river in northern Germany. Trying to figure out where that surname came from is a fun exercise because so many originated with a person's occupation or trade. Maybe way back when last names were first applied his ancestors manned slow rafts on the Rhur? It is possible that descendants (if the line did not die out) changed the name to "Ruhr" or "Ruhrer" That is a fairly common name in the German phone book...more than 800. But if you limit the search to the place names the soldiers came from it may sort out some places. http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/# The English option on the tabs near the top right center of the page may not be working at the moment but should be back up shortly. Ansbach and Bayreuth were mostly Catholic. If you know what religion he was that may help pick the right locations to look. There were no hits for the name Ruhr in Waldeck. Karen

Our early American findings are solid. We have him on muster rolls, etc. We have a copy of his signature on a military document and we find him on all the available census forms as he and his new wife moved from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to Russell County VA. It is the European connection for this, supposedly, rare surname that we are seeking. Where were his roots? Who were his parents? Siblings? Lifestyle, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <Lkrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck > > > > What early American records have you searched for concerning that > family? > > > _______ > > Lavrentiy > > > > > > > > > "Harriet E. Rasnick" wrote: >> >> He stayed in American after the war, married, had children, Anglicized >> his >> name to Rasnick, etc. I was hoping that, if I could find someone in >> Germany >> with that same surname, they might be able to help with the genealogy. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Laurence Krupnak" <Lkrupnak@erols.com> >> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:57 PM >> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck >> >> > >> > >> >> From: "Harriet E. Rasnick" <herasnick@comcast.net> >> > >> >> >> >> Yes, he was a Hessian soldier. We have information once he arrived in >> >> America, but the European connection is lost. Can you give me some >> >> clues >> >> as to where I should look? Thanks. >> > >> > ******** >> > >> > What research have you conducted so far? >> > >> > >> > How long did he live in America after the war? >> > >> > >> > ______ >> > >> > Lavrentiy Krupniak >> > >> > >> > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >> > list? >> > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an >> > archive. >> > >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html >

It is a good site. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cibxxx@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] RE: Ruhrschneck > Harriet E. Rasnick > > I think you will find a lot of information about > the Hessians if you will click on the the site > below. > > Lou > > > > _http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Hessian.html_ > (http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Hessian.html) > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html >

What early American records have you searched for concerning that family? _______ Lavrentiy "Harriet E. Rasnick" wrote: > > He stayed in American after the war, married, had children, Anglicized his > name to Rasnick, etc. I was hoping that, if I could find someone in Germany > with that same surname, they might be able to help with the genealogy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <Lkrupnak@erols.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:57 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Surname Rührschneck > > > > > > >> From: "Harriet E. Rasnick" <herasnick@comcast.net> > > > >> > >> Yes, he was a Hessian soldier. We have information once he arrived in > >> America, but the European connection is lost. Can you give me some clues > >> as to where I should look? Thanks. > > > > ******** > > > > What research have you conducted so far? > > > > > > How long did he live in America after the war? > > > > > > ______ > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > > list? > > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > > archive. > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html