Thank you to all who responded on-list and off-list to my mail about > > "Expellees and Refugees of German ethnic Origin". Regards, Benji

A list member prompted me to look up an old reference I had for a free translation service for genealogy. It is still active and Czech is one of the many languages they translate. I have not used them myself but would give them a try if I had the need. http://genealogy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-tran scriptum.net%2F e.mailTranslations : request@e-transcriptum.net Public Relations : public.relations@e-transcriptum.net HeadquartersFax : +33 1 53 01 37 76 U.S.ATel : +1 309 416 6070 (Illinois) Fax : +1 253 323 8139

Please change my website to jumpbox@sbcglobal.net. _____ From: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:00 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-D Digest V05 #251

Thanks Karen, the bit that he forgot to mention is that the Government has decided this using the reason "it is so terrorists cannot get ahold of any information about people until all of them who filled it out are dead". Its part of the Government here's new policies about all kinds of things. We are about to lose freedom of speech in the interests of 'national security'. When I heard about the restriction on census results, it seemed to me that if noone such as tribunals and inquiries can USE the information and access it to inform decisions, such as future needs of people, actual ethnic constitution, socio-economic inequalities etc, what is the point of spending all that money, when they could just get a PO box and ask for stuff for a time capsule? It's funny funny times here downunder, there are things going on which might bring up echoes for anyone of German-Bohemian ancestry, and that's all I should say. Love to all my cousins, found and yet to be found Willow In Northern NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] for our Australian members > Posted by Dick Eastman at > > http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/11/australian_cens.html > #more > Australian Census Information to be Locked for 99 Years > Proposed new laws in Australia will keep all future census records under > lock > and key for 99 years. Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasurer Chris > Pearce > says the information will be strictly protected over the period, even > banning > courts and tribunals from accessing the information. > "The public can accordingly be confident this picture of Australia will, > in a > very real sense, be preserved in a time capsule, available after 99 years > has > expired, as a legacy for our descendants into the future," Mr. Pearce told > parliament. > He said the proposed laws would build on the experience of the 2001 > census, > where more than half the population opted to have their information > archived. > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > archive. >

OH MY GOsh!!! Awesome Site!!!!! Thank You so much for sharing this one!!!!! :) Mary Jo ------ Original Message ------ From: KarenHob@aol.com Date: Monday, November 14th, 2005 7:42 PM CST To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Encyclopedia of Chicago History on ling http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/ Right under the title there is white type with five entry points. They are in small type and you might miss them. Click on User's Guide first and print it. Then use it to navigate the other entry points. The amount of historical and documentarydata there is mind-boggling!! Karen ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Karen, Interesting site. It reminded me of when my grandma made Pfeffernuesse cookies. She started to make the dough about now and would put it in the refridgerator until just before Christmas. Were they good! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Holiday headsup!! > Schmeckfest with photos showing old German Specialties > > http://www.prairiepublic.org/features/schmeckfest/gallery.htm > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > archive. >

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inspc/francis.walter.html Benjiboh@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > I hope that US-based list members might be able and willing to help me in my > quest. I'm interested to find (and read) the following report: > "Expellees and Refugees of German ethnic Origin". > Report of a Special Subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary, House of > Representatives, HR 2nd Session, Report No. 1841, > Pursuant to H. Res. 238, Washington, March 24, 1950 > Seems chairman of this committee was: > Congressman Francis E. Walter, 15th District, Pennsylvania > > This is a report about the expulsion of ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia > (Bohemia) at the end of WW2 and about the conditions of the forced "Odsun" etc. > It is cited in a lot of literature about this topic as a source. > I don't live in the US so unfortunately neither do I know where to look for > this report, nor am I able to order anything via inter-library-loan etc., > therefore 2 questions: > 1) How can one get hold of this report to read it? > 2) Would anyone know if there exists a book with more in depths > info - from/about - this report ? > I already search the Internet high and low for more info, but sadly > unsucessfully so far. Any further help is much appreciated. > Regards, > Benji

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inspc/francis.walter.html Benjiboh@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > I hope that US-based list members might be able and willing to help me in my > quest. I'm interested to find (and read) the following report: > "Expellees and Refugees of German ethnic Origin". > Report of a Special Subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary, House of > Representatives, HR 2nd Session, Report No. 1841, > Pursuant to H. Res. 238, Washington, March 24, 1950 > Seems chairman of this committee was: > Congressman Francis E. Walter, 15th District, Pennsylvania > > This is a report about the expulsion of ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia > (Bohemia) at the end of WW2 and about the conditions of the forced "Odsun" etc. > It is cited in a lot of literature about this topic as a source. > I don't live in the US so unfortunately neither do I know where to look for > this report, nor am I able to order anything via inter-library-loan etc., > therefore 2 questions: > 1) How can one get hold of this report to read it? > 2) Would anyone know if there exists a book with more in depths > info - from/about - this report ? > I already search the Internet high and low for more info, but sadly > unsucessfully so far. Any further help is much appreciated. > Regards, > Benji

Posted by Dick Eastman at http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/11/australian_cens.html #more Australian Census Information to be Locked for 99 Years Proposed new laws in Australia will keep all future census records under lock and key for 99 years. Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasurer Chris Pearce says the information will be strictly protected over the period, even banning courts and tribunals from accessing the information. "The public can accordingly be confident this picture of Australia will, in a very real sense, be preserved in a time capsule, available after 99 years has expired, as a legacy for our descendants into the future," Mr. Pearce told parliament. He said the proposed laws would build on the experience of the 2001 census, where more than half the population opted to have their information archived.

Schmeckfest with photos showing old German Specialties http://www.prairiepublic.org/features/schmeckfest/gallery.htm

For list of URLs for ..."various online dictionaries and lists that are useful to genealogists. These are useful when trying to decode foreign or obsolete words often found in genealogy work." (Dick Eastman) Go to: http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/11/online_genealog.html #more Karen

There is a Free Text Translator at http://www.freetranslation.com/ It is in the upper left of the home page. It works from English or to English. It does not include Czech or Polish but German is an option. Karen

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/ Right under the title there is white type with five entry points. They are in small type and you might miss them. Click on User's Guide first and print it. Then use it to navigate the other entry points. The amount of historical and documentarydata there is mind-boggling!! Karen

From Richard Eastman newsletter http://eogn.typepad.com/ Sorenson Molecular Announces Rewards for Participants in DNA-Ancestry Database Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF), a non-profit research organization dedicated to fostering global family history research and family connections by building the world's largest database of correlated genetic and genealogical information, and Relative Genetics, a leading global provider of genetic testing solutions for private companies, individuals, family organizations and genealogists, have joined forces to reward family history hobbyists who submit DNA samples and ancestry records for inclusion in the Foundation's rapidly expanding database. The full announcement can be read at http://eogn.typepad.com/announcements/2005/11/sorenson_molecu.html Posted by Dick Eastman on November 14, 2005 | Permalink | Comments (0)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Willow Aliento" <willowa@nor.com.au> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Fw: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] for our Australian members > Thanks Karen, > the bit that he forgot to mention is that the Government has decided this > using the reason "it is so terrorists cannot get ahold of any information > about people until all of them who filled it out are dead". Its part of > the Government here's new policies about all kinds of things. We are > about to lose freedom of speech in the interests of 'national security'. > > When I heard about the restriction on census results, it seemed to me that > if noone such as tribunals and inquiries can USE the information and > access it to inform decisions, such as future needs of people, actual > ethnic constitution, socio-economic inequalities etc, what is the point of > spending all that money, when they could just get a PO box and ask for > stuff for a time capsule? > > It's funny funny times here downunder, there are things going on which > might bring up echoes for anyone of German-Bohemian ancestry, and that's > all I should say. > > Love to all my cousins, found and yet to be found > Willow > In Northern NSW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KarenHob@aol.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:05 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] for our Australian members > > >> Posted by Dick Eastman at >> >> http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/11/australian_cens.html >> #more >> Australian Census Information to be Locked for 99 Years >> Proposed new laws in Australia will keep all future census records under >> lock >> and key for 99 years. Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasurer Chris >> Pearce >> says the information will be strictly protected over the period, even >> banning >> courts and tribunals from accessing the information. >> "The public can accordingly be confident this picture of Australia will, >> in a >> very real sense, be preserved in a time capsule, available after 99 years >> has >> expired, as a legacy for our descendants into the future," Mr. Pearce >> told >> parliament. >> He said the proposed laws would build on the experience of the 2001 >> census, >> where more than half the population opted to have their information >> archived. >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >> list? >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an >> archive. >> > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Benji, A couple of months ago, the US Government released its new online index to its vast library of Serial Publications. This database is called "US Serials Set, Digital Collection," and is available through any library that subscribes to the Lexus-Nexus database collection. BPL (Birmingham, AL) has it on their website, but you would need a library card to access it from your home. The US SERIALS SET is also still available on the large set of old-fashioned opaque microform cards, for which no library I have seen has a printer; one can only view them. So, the online digital version is a VAST IMPROVEMENT! HOWEVER, every major city has a library that subscribes to Lexus-Nexus databases and every medium to large city in the US has from one to six government documents depositories, usually at public libraries, colleges, and universities. You may have a subscribing library in your area, too, that has the L-N databases even though you are "offshore." In order to find your Report No. 1841 you will need the following info, some of which you already had, and the rest of which I looked up for you at BPL today: 1--Number of Congress (81st) 2--Number of the Session of Congress (2nd) 3--House of Congress (House of Representatives) 4--Year of the Report (1950) 5--Volume and Serial Number (vol. 2, Ser. #11379) 6---Report Number (H.rp.1841) If you do not have a library in your area that subscribes to these L-N databases, perhaps I can download the file and attach it to an email, although it may exceed email attachment limits (the file is moderately huge -- over 10MB for the entire 91 pp, but they also break it up into two 5-MB parts (pp 1-50 and pp 51-91). So I might be able to send each part separately from home (I am at BPL now and cannot attach them here). Below is the info copied from the download page: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SERIAL-SET-ID: 11379 H.rp.1841 TITLE: Expellees and refugees of German ethnic origin. DESCRIPTIVE-TITLE: Expellees and refugees of German ethnic origin DOCUMENT-DATE: March 24, 1950 AUTHOR: Francis Eugene Walter (1894-1963), Democratic Representative from PA, see Biographical Directory of the United States Congress COMMITTEE: Committee of the Whole House, House; Committee on the Judiciary, House DOC-NO: H.rp.1841 SERIAL-VOLUME: 11379 CONGRESS-SESSION: 81-2 (1950-1951) SESSIONAL-VOLUME: 2 LENGTH: 91 pp. SUBJECTS: Birthplace; Displaced Persons Act; Germany; Immigration and emigration; Refugees Contains illustrations and tables Replica of Original [Final OCR and image pending] - Complete (10585KB) Replica of Original [Final OCR and image pending] - Pages 1 To 50 (5371KB) Replica of Original [Final OCR and image pending] - Pages 51 To 91 (5212KB) [Housing Space Available and Housing Space Required] (p. 36 in PDF) 2. Present Living Arrangements for Refugees. (p. 37 in PDF) EMPLOYMENT WAGE AND SALARY EARNERS (p. 42 in PDF) [Employed and unemployed refugees vs. job openings] (p. 43 in PDF) LOAD-DATE: March 15, 2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me know if you want me to try attaching these files later from my home computer. Anthony Hubka Birmingham, AL ============================================================== Benjiboh@aol.com wrote: Hi, I hope that US-based list members might be able and willing to help me in my quest. I'm interested to find (and read) the following report: "Expellees and Refugees of German ethnic Origin". Report of a Special Subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary, House of Representatives, HR 2nd Session, Report No. 1841, Pursuant to H. Res. 238, Washington, March 24, 1950 Seems chairman of this committee was: Congressman Francis E. Walter, 15th District, Pennsylvania This is a report about the expulsion of ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia (Bohemia) at the end of WW2 and about the conditions of the forced "Odsun" etc. It is cited in a lot of literature about this topic as a source. I don't live in the US so unfortunately neither do I know where to look for this report, nor am I able to order anything via inter-library-loan etc., therefore 2 questions: 1) How can one get hold of this report to read it? 2) Would anyone know if there exists a book with more in depths info - from/about - this report ? I already search the Internet high and low for more info, but sadly unsucessfully so far. Any further help is much appreciated. Regards, Benji ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

For those who are looking for copies of the survey of Bohemia by J G Sommer, BYU has a complete collection. Print the text below and take it to your librarian to order the book you want on interlibrary loan. There is also a full collection at the CGSI library in St. Paul and a partial collection at the GBHS library in New Ulm, MN. Check the websites of those organizations to learn what is in their libraries. Note that the name of each Kreis is given as the name of a city with an "er" added at the end. Just remove the "er" to learn the correct name of the city that was the district center in 1848. Karen http://catalog.lib.byu.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/zS5FDY9oyp/LEE/96640257/8/1060662/S OMMER+JOHANN+GOTTFRIED+1782+OR+3-1848 Das konigreich Bohmen ; statistisch-topographisch dargestellt Sommer, Johann Gottfried, 1782 or 3-1848. Personal Author: Sommer, Johann Gottfried, 1782 or 3-1848. Title: Das konigreich Bohmen ; statistisch-topographisch dargestellt / von Johann Gottfried Sommer. Publication info: Prag : J.G. Calve, 1833-1849. Physical description: 16 v. ; 21 cm. General Note: Vol. 9-16 published by F. Ehrlich. General Note: Vol. 16 was edited, after the death of the author, by F.X.M. Zippe, who assisted in the publication of the entire work. Bibliography note: Includes bibliographical references and indexes. Contents: 1. bd. Leitmeritzer kreis. 1833 -- 2. bd. Bunzlaner kreis. 1834 -- 3. bd. Bidschower kreis. 1835 -- 4. bd. Königgrätzer kreis. 1836 -- 5. bd. Chrudimer kreis. 1837 -- 6. bd. Pilsner kreis. 1838 -- 7. bd. Klattauer kreis. 1839 -- 8. bd. Prachiner kreis. 1840 -- 9. bd. Budweiser kreis. 1841 -- 10. bd. Taborer kreis. 1842 -- 11. bd. Caslauer kris. 1843 -- 12. bd. Kau*rimer kreis. 1844 -- 13. bd. Rakonitzer kreis. 1845 -- 14. bd. Saazer kreis. 1846 -- 15. bd. Elbogner kreis. 1847 -- 16 bd. Berauner kreis. 1849. Geographic term: Bohemia (Czech Republic). Added author: Zippe, F. X. M. LCCN: 03003651

Hi, I hope that US-based list members might be able and willing to help me in my quest. I'm interested to find (and read) the following report: "Expellees and Refugees of German ethnic Origin". Report of a Special Subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary, House of Representatives, HR 2nd Session, Report No. 1841, Pursuant to H. Res. 238, Washington, March 24, 1950 Seems chairman of this committee was: Congressman Francis E. Walter, 15th District, Pennsylvania This is a report about the expulsion of ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia (Bohemia) at the end of WW2 and about the conditions of the forced "Odsun" etc. It is cited in a lot of literature about this topic as a source. I don't live in the US so unfortunately neither do I know where to look for this report, nor am I able to order anything via inter-library-loan etc., therefore 2 questions: 1) How can one get hold of this report to read it? 2) Would anyone know if there exists a book with more in depths info - from/about - this report ? I already search the Internet high and low for more info, but sadly unsucessfully so far. Any further help is much appreciated. Regards, Benji

Hi Barb, try http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp to locate Horni Tresnovec and Vermerovice I have an friend in MN who has also Dusek ancestors from this region. Maybe you can exchange records with her. Will you give her address in an secound private email. good luck Lars Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <bklecker@pressenter.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:15 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Vermerovice > > > I am have been let to understand that one of my immigrant familes the > duseks canme from Vermeroivce #44, is this still a town in Bohemia today, > and where can I find records on same? thanks Barb > > Also another Bohemian family came from #95 Horni Tresnevoec, again same > questions. Thanks Again Barb > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

I am have been let to understand that one of my immigrant familes the duseks canme from Vermeroivce #44, is this still a town in Bohemia today, and where can I find records on same? thanks Barb Also another Bohemian family came from #95 Horni Tresnevoec, again same questions. Thanks Again Barb