Thanks Karen, As someone who moves quite often it is best to store on several mediums. I think with a DVD burner, a CD burner, an internal HD and external HD one could be prepared for almost anything (though this gets costly). The link below also gave an opportunity to save the booklet. The one problem I run into is .jpgs going bad or getting corrupted so now I save my documents as .jpgs and .pdf. Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: KarenHob@aol.com Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:51 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] CD storage headsup from Computerworld > This is only somewhat list related but I believe it is very > important for > genealogists to understand the capabilities of their PC storage > and how to save > their data. So I have a little more to add about the subject. > > Ever since I have been into genealogy and the history of the > German Bohemians > I have wondered about how to best save my data and to pass it > around to > family members and others. > > I admit I was surprised at the Computerworld article's promotion > of tapes as > the most reliable and long-lasting backup because about 3 PCs ago > I had one > with a tape drive. (I have been using a PC since 1983). I hated > the results > and always had trouble reading the tapes which now sit useless in > my file > cabinet. I thought that maybe Computerworld had more up to date > information but > the last list Email on the subject of tape storage certainly blew > that away. > > At this time I have my PC and 2 external hard drives -- one is 80 > GB and the > other is 200 GB. Between the three of them and the DVDs / CDs I > make I am > hoping I have some continuity of storage until a better solution > appears. > I have to tell everyone to whom I give a CD of photos or other > family records > that they have to back it up from time to time or risk losing all > the images. > > An external hard drive hooks up with a USB cable and works just > like an > integrated one. They are various prices depending on the size > and speed as well > as other features. The one thing I would look for is an external > hard drive > with a on-off switch. That permits you to do your backup or > other save and > then turn the drive off. > > The RAID technology referred to in the last Email is something > with which I > am unfamiliar. All I know is that it requres 2 drives. > > There is some interesting information about DVDs as media instead > of CDs at: > http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm > Scroll down to the paragraphs about gradual data loss. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >
This is only somewhat list related but I believe it is very important for genealogists to understand the capabilities of their PC storage and how to save their data. So I have a little more to add about the subject. Ever since I have been into genealogy and the history of the German Bohemians I have wondered about how to best save my data and to pass it around to family members and others. I admit I was surprised at the Computerworld article's promotion of tapes as the most reliable and long-lasting backup because about 3 PCs ago I had one with a tape drive. (I have been using a PC since 1983). I hated the results and always had trouble reading the tapes which now sit useless in my file cabinet. I thought that maybe Computerworld had more up to date information but the last list Email on the subject of tape storage certainly blew that away. At this time I have my PC and 2 external hard drives -- one is 80 GB and the other is 200 GB. Between the three of them and the DVDs / CDs I make I am hoping I have some continuity of storage until a better solution appears. I have to tell everyone to whom I give a CD of photos or other family records that they have to back it up from time to time or risk losing all the images. An external hard drive hooks up with a USB cable and works just like an integrated one. They are various prices depending on the size and speed as well as other features. The one thing I would look for is an external hard drive with a on-off switch. That permits you to do your backup or other save and then turn the drive off. The RAID technology referred to in the last Email is something with which I am unfamiliar. All I know is that it requres 2 drives. There is some interesting information about DVDs as media instead of CDs at: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm Scroll down to the paragraphs about gradual data loss. Karen
FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH (re magnetic tapes over CDs): My brother, a former computer technician at ADP, had the following rebuttal to the Computerworld article on the alleged reliability of magnetic tapes: "U know, thinking more on this, the guy that wrote that article must have NEVER used computer tapes. Ive used them EXTENSIVELY literally thousands of times with ADP moving data around while getting ready for classes I used to teach, and remotely restoring clients dead systems from tapes while dialed in to their systems. In a nutshell, tape drives just suck and DO NOT WORK WELL AT ALL! They have little or no compatibility from brand to brand, and FAIL CONSTANTLY with a myriad of confusing proprietary errors, all of which translate after many hours of techie text explanations into, Youre ***ed, try another tape. I find it very hard to believe the tape medium itself lasts longer, because in my experience with them they degrade from heat, humidity, exposure to magnetic fields, and just plain AGE. The iron or chromium oxide or other chemical emulsion eventually just flakes off the tape and then you're permanently lost! Tapes and tape drives just fall apart and screw up constantly, given the fact there are a lot of moving parts and friction with tapes you dont have with CDs and LASERS. Even if it were true that tapes last longer, their incredible quirkiness and unrelieability are just UNBEARABLE, and its a miracle when one ever works! Just about every business trip in my pre-sales days, I was sent to re-start some client from scratch BECAUSE THEIR BACKUP TAPES DIDN'T WORK. I dont think anyone with an IQ over 65 has actually used them very much since about the early 90s anyway. Tapes have been replaced as backup media by RAID technology years ago, which is basically mirroring data in real time to a second or third drive. Hard to believe this message/article was written and sent this year, and not around 1992 perhaps? If you're worried about CDs, then go with memory sticks or data cards until something better becomes available, and leave the tape drives in the SMITHSONIAN!" --my outspoken computer-genius brother (who shall for obvious reasons remain anonymous) Please don't shoot the messenger, this is for the common good; i.e., one might do well to think twice or even thrice before investing in obsolete technology. Hope you found this as informative and entertaining as I did. ============================================================= KarenHob@aol.com wrote: (NOTE: The article below warns that CD storage is not permanent. It does not address whether DVD storage is any better.) Storage expert warns of short life span for burned CDs And don't count on hard disk drives for long-term storage, either News Story by John Blau JANUARY 10, 2006 (COMPUTERWORLD) - Although opinions vary on how to preserve data on digital storage media, such as optical CDs and DVDs, Kurt Gerecke, a physicist and storage expert at IBM Deutschland GmbH, takes this view: If you want to avoid having to burn new CDs every few years, use magnetic tapes to store all your pictures, videos and songs for a lifetime. "Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke said in an interview this week. "There are a few things you can do to extend the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but not a whole lot more." The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming unreadable to the laser beam. "Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life span of around two years," Gerecke said. "Some of the better-quality discs offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years." Distinguishing high-quality burnable CDs from low-quality discs is difficult, he said, because few vendors use life span as a selling point. Hard-drive disks also have their limitations, according to Gerecke. The problem with hard drives, he said, is not so much the disk itself as it is the disk bearing, which has a positioning function similar to a ball bearing. "If the hard drive uses an inexpensive disk bearing, that bearing will wear out faster than a more expensive one," he said. His recommendation: a hard-drive disk with 7,200 revolutions per minute. To overcome the preservation limitations of burnable CDs, Gerecke suggests using magnetic tapes, which, he claims, can have a life span of 30 to 100 years, depending on their quality. "Even if magnetic tapes are also subject to degradation, they're still the superior storage media," he said. ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an archive. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
Hello Arnold, The following is what is found in the index: District: Brackenheim Name: HECHLER, GOTTFRIED & F Birth Date: 21 Feb 1803 Birth Place: Schwaigern Application Date: Feb 1854 Destination: America Number: 562308 District: Brachenheim Name: HECHLER, GOTTFRIED Birth Date: 20 Nov 1840 Birth Place: Schwaigern Application Date: Feb 1854 Destination: North America Number: 562308 Hope this helps. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: arnold.schnobrich@us.army.mil<mailto:arnold.schnobrich@us.army.mil> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Passenger and Immigration Lists Index I am wondering if anyone has access to the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index(s). I am trying to find anyone who has access to vol 1 (page 77) and vol 6 (page 165)to find a Gottfried Hechler emigrating in 1854 to America. Arnold Schnobrich ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/>
Online archive a searchable database of area history Galesburg Register-Mail; Sunday, January 15, 2006 By JANET KLOCKENGA The Register-Mail A pictorial history of Galesburg now is just a few mouse clicks away. Galesburg Public Library archivist Patty Mosher has been working for 2 1/2 years to add historic photos of Galesburg to the digital photo archive, www.umvphotoarchive.org, which is a collection of photos from cities along the Upper Mississippi River Valley. On the site you may see a rare photograph showing historic Beecher Chapel in 1858 with its steeple, which was blown off in a windstorm shortly after it was built. And, the fiery collapse of the Union Hotel, where the Ramada Inn is now, as it burned in 1969. And a lot of historic events and places between those times. Mosher has put 305 Galesburg photographs on the site, and it continues to grow. It is a project funded by the Augustana College Humanities Fund, Roy J. Carver Charitable Trust, Riverboat Development Authority and Illinois State Library. Compiling the site are archivists at museums and libraries up and down the Mississippi River, from Burlington to Dubuque in Iowa, and from Nauvoo to Galena in Illinois. Mosher said Galesburg is the town farthest east that's represented on the site - included because it is on a tributary of the river, Cedar Fork Creek. Galesburg images on the site span from 1857 to the present, and they are arranged in alphabetical order. Most of the photos are from the late 1800s to the 1930s, and they depict historic businesses and homes and some of the famous people who have visited here. Many of the images were taken from plates made at Osgood Photo Studio, a former business on Main Street. Mosher said Galesburg photographer Bill Foley rescued many of the Osgood glass plates from the trash and gave half to Knox College and half to the public library some years ago. Other images were donated by private citizens, Mosher said. Library volunteer Barbara Bulkeley scans the photos for Mosher, who then chronicles each before it's added to the site. Together, they have been adding 10 to 15 images a week, Mosher said. She also is helped by part-time archivist Linda Lacy, who does research on the images. Mosher uses Galesburg city directories and phone books to help verify information about each picture. All information must be verified before a photo is submitted for the site, she said. Mosher, a lifelong lover of history, enjoys her role chronicling the past. "These are wonderful images of Galesburg, they are treasures," Mosher said. "I think I have the best job in town. This is one of the most fun things I do." Mosher can make high-quality photo prints of the images on the site; an 8-by-10 photo costs $10, anything smaller is $5. Mosher said the site will be helpful to local genealogists and students, or anyone writing a history of the city. "It's great for instructional purposes and just to have some fun," she said. "Some of them aren't that pretty, but they're interesting to Galesburg." - - - On the Net: To find the Galesburg images on the site, go to www.umvphotoarchive.org, click on the Down arrow, choose Galesburg Public Library and click on Go.
I am wondering if anyone has access to the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index(s). I am trying to find anyone who has access to vol 1 (page 77) and vol 6 (page 165)to find a Gottfried Hechler emigrating in 1854 to America. Arnold Schnobrich
(NOTE: The article below warns that CD storage is not permanent. It does not address whether DVD storage is any better.) Storage expert warns of short life span for burned CDs And don't count on hard disk drives for long-term storage, either News Story by John Blau JANUARY 10, 2006 (COMPUTERWORLD) - Although opinions vary on how to preserve data on digital storage media, such as optical CDs and DVDs, Kurt Gerecke, a physicist and storage expert at IBM Deutschland GmbH, takes this view: If you want to avoid having to burn new CDs every few years, use magnetic tapes to store all your pictures, videos and songs for a lifetime. "Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke said in an interview this week. "There are a few things you can do to extend the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but not a whole lot more." The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming unreadable to the laser beam. "Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life span of around two years," Gerecke said. "Some of the better-quality discs offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years." Distinguishing high-quality burnable CDs from low-quality discs is difficult, he said, because few vendors use life span as a selling point. Hard-drive disks also have their limitations, according to Gerecke. The problem with hard drives, he said, is not so much the disk itself as it is the disk bearing, which has a positioning function similar to a ball bearing. "If the hard drive uses an inexpensive disk bearing, that bearing will wear out faster than a more expensive one," he said. His recommendation: a hard-drive disk with 7,200 revolutions per minute. To overcome the preservation limitations of burnable CDs, Gerecke suggests using magnetic tapes, which, he claims, can have a life span of 30 to 100 years, depending on their quality. "Even if magnetic tapes are also subject to degradation, they're still the superior storage media," he said.
You sent me a lot of requests to look up listings in the Leipzig Archive inventory. I have found many villages listed there that you are looking for. Please be patient, as I will be away from my desk for a few days and will answer to your email as soon as I can. Aida
Hello to Everyone! I am new to the list and looking for a connection to (and information about) Georg Schweinfurter and his wife Anna (Theuerl) Schweinfurter who lived in Frauenthal Nr. 43, Bohemia. There son was Franz Schweinfurter (Stankau Nr. 91), who married Johanna Krejci. These are my great-grandparents (born around 1850 to 1880 ?). My Grandfather is Friedrich Schweinfurter, born Oktober 4th, 1903 in Stankau, Bezirk Bischofteinitz, and Margerete or Margereta (Holub) Schweinfurter, born April 19th, 1904. Does anybody have information which could be helpful to complete a family tree? Thank you for your help! Freidrich Schweinfurter
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > > The topography of Bohemia by J G Sommer is a 16-volume set of books -- > one fore each Kreis in Bohemia prior to 1848. I first discovered > these books about 1994 and have used the volume for Pilsner Kreis > quite often. Portions of vol. 15 (Elbogner Kreis, published 1847) of the Sommer series are translated into English on my website: http://home.xnet.com/~ugeiser/Genealogy/Bohemia/contents.html At the bottom of the table of contents are the links to the place index, containing German and Czech names, size, dominion (Herrschaft), parish, and page number. The index is broken into 4 pages (A-G, H-L, M-Sc, Sd-Z) for compactness and sorted alphabetically by German name (use the browser's Find function to search by the other entries). The translated parts include the General Overview and the dominions: Elbogen (city and dominion), Oberchodau, Falkenau, Maria Kulm, Schoenbach, Joachimsthal (city and "forest" dominion), Karlsbad, Eger (city with dominion, royal castle dominion, St. Clara, Knights of Holy Cross), Stein, Kinsberg, Pograth, and Asch. There is a small chance that I'll add some more, but I'm basically done with those parts that I (or better, my wife who doesn't read much German) have need for. This is purely a hobby effort. Some other sections from this or other volumes have been transcribed in German to the web. Urs Geiser (ugeiser AT xnet.com) Woodridge (DuPage Co.), IL, USA
Friedrich, Have you made any effort to get copies of church records for the parish that served Stankau? Go to the VSFF website and search the Sudeten parish records available for given parishes listed there (see my last list Email with the URL) to see if there are any that you could use. You may have to hire a professional researcher to actually get copies of the records in the Pilsen archive. Karen friedrich.schweinfurter@basf.com writes: I am new to the list and looking for a connection to (and information about) Georg Schweinfurter and his wife Anna (Theuerl) Schweinfurter who lived in Frauenthal Nr. 43, Bohemia. There son was Franz Schweinfurter (Stankau Nr. 91), who married Johanna Krejci. These are my great-grandparents (born around 1850 to 1880 ?). My Grandfather is Friedrich Schweinfurter, born Oktober 4th, 1903 in Stankau, Bezirk Bischofteinitz, and Margerete or Margereta (Holub) Schweinfurter, born April 19th, 1904. Does anybody have information which could be helpful to complete a family tree? Thank you for your help! Freidrich Schweinfurter
In a message dated 1/15/2006 9:20:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, akibb1@verizon.net writes: The booklet contains Church names of available church registers. Felix Gundacker's book of parish records for all of Bohemia is a finished and complete record. It is available at his website -- http://www.ihff.at/ There are also a number of other publications by Felix listed at the website, all of which are very good basic resources. German list is at: http://www.ihff.at/indexstart.htm English list is at: http://www.ihff.at/indexstarte.htm The topography of Bohemia by J G Sommer is a 16-volume set of books -- one fore each Kreis in Bohemia prior to 1848. I first discovered these books about 1994 and have used the volume for Pilsner Kreis quite often. The original books were in Gothic German typeface. I do not know if Felix G. has transcribed them to Roman typeface which may be easier to read for some. The books contain a history of the ownership of each noble estate (Herrschaft) before 1848 -- giving the names of various noble famiies whose own archives may include data about one's ancestors. It also lists all of the places included in each estate and the parish to which each one belonged. The number of houses and population numbers are given and the language(s) spoken are named. The general description of the Herrschaft also tells what "industry" there was or what the various means of earning a living were. I think the books are a bargain at EU 35 each. 1 Leitmeritz 3-902318-00-7 2 Bunzlau 3-902318-01-5 3 Bidschow 3-902318-02-3 4 Königgrätz 3-902318-03-1 5 Chrudim 3-902318-04-X 6 Pilsen 3-902318-05-8 7 Klattau 3-902318-06-6 8 Prachin 3-902318-07-4 9 Budweis 3-902318-08-2 10 Tabor 3-902318-09-0 11 Caslav 3-902318-10-4 12 Kaurim 3-902318-11-2 13 Rakonitz 3-902318-12-0 14 Saaz 3-902318-13-9 15 Elbogen 3-902318-14-7 16 Beraun 3-902318-15-5 17 Index for all books 3-902318-16-3 http://www.ihff.at/indexstarte.htm at the same site lets you search for place names in an on-line Gazetteer. There is another option for a list of parish records available for a given place. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kb/index.html If you search for that URL using Google you will have the option to [translate this page] in the hit list. Click on that option and the page should come up in a readable English. You have to know the location of an ancestral parish church to use this site. Click on the name of the place with the church for a list of records available for that place. If you do not know the name of the place with the church and the ancestral birthplace is not in the list, use the other resources listed above to locate the parish. Then go to that place on the list and check to see if the ancestral birthplace is listed with the other places included in the parish. Karen
I purchased the Inventory book from the German Central office for Genealogy at Leipzig which might be easier to access than records in the Czech Republic. The Inventory list ISBN 3-7686-2054-9 can be purchased from Sächsisches Staatsarchiv Leipzig and is printed with a direction in both languages, German and English. Their address is: Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie Schongauerstr. 1 D04329 Leipzig Germany, The booklet contains Church names of available church registers. Let me warn you, these are not complete records as this was "work is progress" I am listing below what is available for Bohemia. The forword in this book states: "All documents in this volume are solely the result of the activities of the former German agency for genealogical research, which was founded on March 5, 1935 as an institution of the German Ministry of the Interior. " And there is a guideline for use. The information is on microfilm. Besides the Sudetengerman listings of towns (which I have listed below) there are various registers listed for villages in Bessarabien, Bukowina, Estland, Letland, Litauen, Siebenbürgen, Slowenien, Südtirol. Since these are not complete records, this inventory list is a good guideline. If you have interests other then the present area of the Czech Republic, write to me to check if the town you are interested in is listed within the other regions. Do not write to the list but directly to me akibb1@verizon.net Aida Kraus Albrechtsdorf, Kreis Gablonz Arnau, Kreis Hohenelbe Bernsdorf, Kreis Trautenau Bielau, Kreis Wagstadt Botenwald, kreis Wagstadt Brandau, Kreis Brüx Bransdorf, Kreis Jägerndorf Brenn, Kreis Deutsch Gabel Brosdorf, Kreis Wagstadt Brunnersdorf, Kreis Kaaden Chodau, Kreis Elbogen (from 1671 to 1794) Deutsch Jasnik, Kreis Neutitschein Dittersdorf, Kreis Freudenthal Dreihacken, Kreis Marienbad (1787-1797 and 1858-1883) Funkau, Kreis Kaaden Gablonz, Kreis Deutsch Gabel Göhren, Kreis Brüx Grossmergthal, Kreis Deutsch Gabel Gross Pahlom, Kreis Wagstadt Grottau, Kreis Reichenberg Habstein, Kreis Böhmisch Leipa Harrachsdorf, Kreis Hohenelbe Kapsch, Kreis Mies (1695-1757) Kleinlangenau, Kreis Hohenelbe Komotau, Kreis Komotau (1606-1661) Krombach, Kreis Deutsch Gabel Liebschitz, Kreis Leitmeritz with Kettendorf, Liebschitz, Trnobrand, Oberkoblitz, Niederkoblitz (1683-1746) Mährisch Rothmühl, Kreis Zwittau Mittellangenau, Kreis Hohenelbe Moldau, Kreis Teplitz-Schönau (1827-1922) Neudeck, Kreis Neudeck Neumarkt, Kreis Tepl Niederdorf, Kreis Hohenelbe Niederlangenau, Kreis Hohenelbe Niederlichtenwalde, Kreis Deutsch Gabel Niederrrochlitz, Kreis Hohenelbe Niklasberg, Kreis Teplitz-Schönau Oberradersbach, Kreis Braunau Oberrochlitz, Kreis Hohenelbe Ottendorf, Kreis Braunau Platten, Kreis Komotau (1638 - 1875) Ponikla, Kreis Hohenelbe with Freudenberg, Jetschabi, Koschischlitz, Raudnitz, Wichau-Lhota, Witkowitz (1700-1853) Poruba, Kreis Wagstadt Priesen, Kreis Komotau (1580-1770) Raase, Kreis Freudenthal (1571-1669 Rascha, Kreis Brüx Redenitz, Kreis Kaaden Reichenau, Kreis Mährisch Trübau (1784-1911) Reischdorf, Kreis Kaaden (1713-1875) Rochlitz, Kreis Hohenelbe Saar, Kreis Kaaden (1610-1713) Sabnitz, Kreis Brüx Sahlenbach, Kreis Hohenelbe Schlatten, Kreis Wagstadt (1642-1890) Schluckenau, Kreis Schluckenau (1694-1749) Seelau, Kreis Kaaden Sehrles, Kreis Kaaden (1611-1747) Seidowitz, Kreis Brüx Seifersdorf, Kreis Jägerndorf Stefansruh, Kreis Gablonz Steinwasser, Kreis Brüx Stiebrowitz, Kreis Troppau Totzau, Kreis Kaaden (1628-1774) Wagstadt, Kreis Wagstadt (1653-1884) Weipert, Kreis Weipert (1664-1730) Weisswasser, Kreis Frewaldau Wistritz, Kreis Kaaden (1611-1792) with Milsau Woslowitz, Kreis Kaaden Zettel, Kreis Brüx
New York State Library and Archives has a lot of documents in their online catalog at: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/index.html. A news release says: New Digital Media Management System Provides Enhanced Access to Electronic New York State Documents in the Library's Collection It is necessary to register and login to access the catalog. The site is well worth exploring by anyone with suspected roots in New York State. Karen
A good source for informaion about sailing ships and steamers is the multi-volume reference books called "Merchant Sail". These books are in chronological order per the time that each ship sailed. They contain a lot of data about the ports visited and even some narratives from the ships logs and passenger journals specific to a given crossing. There are photos or other images of each ship if they were available and some other illustrations showing rescues from ships that ran aground and other events. There is also an on-line database about sailing ships. From: January 12, 2006 Eastman's Genealogy Newsletter Palmer List of Merchant Vessels Do you know the name of a vessel that your ancestor sailed on to reach the United States? By finding more information about that vessel, you might gain new insights into your ancestor's travels. The Palmer List of Merchant Vessels is an online database created by Michael P. Palmer. Wherever possible, Palmer li sts the name of vessel, its rigging, and its nationality. In a few cases there are photographs as well. For instance, here is Palmer's description of one such sailing vessel: The Bremen ship CARL was built at Vegesack/Grohn by Johann Lange, for the Bremen firm of E. C. Schramm & Co, and launched on 2 December 1857. 498 Commerzlasten / 1099 tons; 52,5 x 10,5 x 6,7 meters (length x beam x depth of hold). International Signal Code: QBNS. Masters of the CARL were, in turn, E. Lüdering, Hinrich v. Harten, Christian Friedrich Otten, H. C. Bockelmann, and J. Hashagen. Originally engaged in the "triangle trade" between Bremen, New York, and the cotton ports of the south, she was transferred to the petroleum trade between North America and Europe in the 1870's, when she ceased to carry passengers (vessels engaged in the petroleum trade customarily did not carry passengers). In 1888, the CARL was sold to A. Ménard, of Fiume, then in Austria-Hungary, who first entrusted her to Capt. Michielli, but in 1890 assumed command himself. On 6 August 1892, the CARL stranded off Little Hope Island, Nova Scotia, and became a total loss. Source: Peter-Michael Pawlik, Von der Weser in die Welt; Die Geschichte der Segelschiffe von Weser und Lesum und ihrer Bauwerften 1770 bis 1893, Schriften des Deutschen Schiffahrtsmuseums, Bd. 33 (Hamburg: Kabel, c1993), p. 234, no. 238. Voyages: 1. North German (Bremen) ship CARL, [Christian Friedrich] Otten, master, arrived at New York on 10 May 1869 (passenger manifest dated 11 May 1869), 34 days from Bremen, with merchandise and 500 passengers, consigned to Hermann Koop & Co. "Had strong westerly winds; latitude 46, longitude 45 W, saw several large icebergs; had 1 birth and 4 deaths among the passengers." The above description is accompanied by a picture of a silk embroidery of the ship, created by Thomas Willes of New York prior to 1865. You can access the Palmer List of Merchant Vessels online at: http://www.geocities.com/mppraetorius
The Czech name for Falkenau is Sokolov. I don't subscribe to the Austrian List. All of my family on my dad's side came from Falkenau (its a Kreis as well as a city, so there are towns within Kries Falkenau). If you still have the message, feel free to forward it to me or my email address to them. Susan Muehlhans-Karides On Jan 12, 2006, at 8:24 PM, KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > The site below may not be known to list newbies. The message is > cross-posted from the Austro-Hungarian list. It was in reply to a > response to an > inquiry about the location of Falkenau, Austria. I did not know > the present Czech > name for Falkenau. > > Felix Gundacker has an extensive site and it is well worth surfing. > > Karen > > In a message dated 1/11/2006 11:34:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, > office@ihff.at writes: > > > On my site www.ihff.at > - you will find an ONLINE gazetteer of > whole Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic, with old German and > present > names, competent parishes (and parishes before), begin of Church > records (or > Vital Statistics you say), competent archives/district/diocese, and > additional information. > It´s free - try it and you will find each location. > > If you have any question, please, don’t hesitate to ask me. > > With kind regards, > Felix Gundacker > --------------- > > Ing. Felix Gundacker > professional genealogist for Austria, Bohemia and Moravia > IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH > Pantzergasse 30/8 > Austria, A-1190 WIEN > Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 > Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 > email: office@ihff.at > http://www.ihff.at > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >
Be sure that this is the Sokolov you want..... the one I am familiar with is Falkenau an der Eger, which means that it is in the Egerland. Just to let you know that there is another Falkenau or Sokolov in the Czech Republic on the Bohemian-Moravian border. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven and Susan Karides" <karides@sbcglobal.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Town Location > The Czech name for Falkenau is Sokolov. > > I don't subscribe to the Austrian List. All of my family on my dad's side > came from Falkenau (its a Kreis as well as a city, so there are towns > within Kries Falkenau). If you still have the message, feel free to > forward it to me or my email address to them. > > > Susan Muehlhans-Karides > > > On Jan 12, 2006, at 8:24 PM, KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > >> The site below may not be known to list newbies. The message is >> cross-posted from the Austro-Hungarian list. It was in reply to a >> response to an >> inquiry about the location of Falkenau, Austria. I did not know the >> present Czech >> name for Falkenau. >> >> Felix Gundacker has an extensive site and it is well worth surfing. >> >> Karen >> >> In a message dated 1/11/2006 11:34:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, >> office@ihff.at writes: >> >> >> On my site www.ihff.at >> - you will find an ONLINE gazetteer of >> whole Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic, with old German and >> present >> names, competent parishes (and parishes before), begin of Church records >> (or >> Vital Statistics you say), competent archives/district/diocese, and >> additional information. >> It´s free - try it and you will find each location. >> >> If you have any question, please, don’t hesitate to ask me. >> >> With kind regards, >> Felix Gundacker >> --------------- >> >> Ing. Felix Gundacker >> professional genealogist for Austria, Bohemia and Moravia >> IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH >> Pantzergasse 30/8 >> Austria, A-1190 WIEN >> Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 >> Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 >> email: office@ihff.at >> http://www.ihff.at >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > archive. >
In a message dated 1/12/2006 6:24:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, KarenHob@aol.com writes: > http://www.genealogyandhow.com/lib/germany/german-town-name-meanings.htm great site...has lots of my people
The site below may not be known to list newbies. The message is cross-posted from the Austro-Hungarian list. It was in reply to a response to an inquiry about the location of Falkenau, Austria. I did not know the present Czech name for Falkenau. Felix Gundacker has an extensive site and it is well worth surfing. Karen In a message dated 1/11/2006 11:34:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, office@ihff.at writes: On my site www.ihff.at - you will find an ONLINE gazetteer of whole Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic, with old German and present names, competent parishes (and parishes before), begin of Church records (or Vital Statistics you say), competent archives/district/diocese, and additional information. It´s free - try it and you will find each location. If you have any question, please, don’t hesitate to ask me. With kind regards, Felix Gundacker --------------- Ing. Felix Gundacker professional genealogist for Austria, Bohemia and Moravia IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH Pantzergasse 30/8 Austria, A-1190 WIEN Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 email: office@ihff.at http://www.ihff.at
>From Rootsweb review January 11 2006: Immigrants to Canada: http://www.dcs.uwaterloo.ca/%7Emarj/genealogy/thevoyage.html German Town Name Meanings: http://www.genealogyandhow.com/lib/germany/german-town-name-meanings.htm