In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:43:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, gregory@giantcomm.net writes: > The publisher of Heritage Quest Magazine and Genealogy Magazine has > declared > bankruptcy. Does this have anything to do with the Heritage Quest I use to search census files through my local library? I hope it won't cease to exist, because it's free, and Ancestry.com is too expensive. Cathy

Greetings everyone: Just a quick response to Bill's comment about Ancestry. Com and the Heritage Quest census's complimenting each other.   I belonged to both web sites, and one instance when I was looking at the census for New York, I discovered an error in the Ancestry. Com census data.   Actually I discovered this error by accident.   I had spelled the name that I was researching as Baumgardner, and Ancestry. Com had the person that I was seeking listed under that spelling.   However, Heritage Quest had the correct spelling as Baumgartner, and I was able to gather some very important information from Heritage Quest's data. I'm sure this could and maybe did occur the other way around in some instances, but it made me aware that one needs to double check everything that we research. John Schlesinger.

In Kansas you can access Heritage Quest through the Kansas State Library. You need to visit a local library to get a library card in order to access their site. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: bhoudek [mailto:bhoudek@swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:02 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] More about Heritage Quest databases As of right now, 7:55 am CST, was able to access Heritage Quest through the St. Louis County Library. Frankly, seems to me the census data from both Ancestry.com & HQ compliment each other. Bill Houdek bhoudek@swbell.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <hwhitemc@msn.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] More about Heritage Quest databases > > Heritage Quest withdrew and cancelled from Godfrey Library, not the other > way around. > Helen > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

As of right now, 7:55 am CST, was able to access Heritage Quest through the St. Louis County Library. Frankly, seems to me the census data from both Ancestry.com & HQ compliment each other. Bill Houdek bhoudek@swbell.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <hwhitemc@msn.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] More about Heritage Quest databases > > Heritage Quest withdrew and cancelled from Godfrey Library, not the other > way around. > Helen > >

Heritage Quest withdrew and cancelled from Godfrey Library, not the other way around. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] More about Heritage Quest databases > I checked the HeritageQuest website (http://www.heritagequestonline.com/ ) > > There is a note at the top right of the firs page for any of the links on the > home page saying it is "from ProQuest" > > Login is required. > > When you click that you have no loging and password the next page > explains that it is available through institutional subscibers only. > > At least this seems to indicate that the databases are still available on > line. > We have to wait and see if any other institutions drop Heritage Quest since > Godfrey Library has dropped it. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >

I subscribe to Godfrey.org I was told that because Godfrey "charges a fee" to access its databases including Heritage Quest, it was in other words "reselling" the data to users, and that is against Heritage Quest policies. This year, as the yearly subscriptions are renewing, users will loose the ability to see Heritage Quest through Godfrey. By the end of the year, no one will be able to access Heritage Quest through Godfrey. But Heritage Quest is available for free through many local libraries. In a message dated 2/7/2006 5:38:11 PM Central Standard Time, KarenHob@aol.com writes: When you click that you have no loging and password the next page explains that it is available through institutional subscibers only. At least this seems to indicate that the databases are still available on line. We have to wait and see if any other institutions drop Heritage Quest since Godfrey Library has dropped it. Karen

I checked the HeritageQuest website (http://www.heritagequestonline.com/ ) There is a note at the top right of the firs page for any of the links on the home page saying it is "from ProQuest" Login is required. When you click that you have no loging and password the next page explains that it is available through institutional subscibers only. At least this seems to indicate that the databases are still available on line. We have to wait and see if any other institutions drop Heritage Quest since Godfrey Library has dropped it. Karen

Some months ago ProQuest merged with Heritage Quest, taking over the database operations. Heritage Creations then bought back Heritage Quest retail operations from proQuest. It is not clear if retail operations included access to Internet databases available through institutional subscriptions (libraries, etc. ) . There are a lot of US public libraries that allow free access to Heritage Quest for library card holders -- I know that our library in Colorado Springs does and we use that database fairly often by logging into the library system on the Internet. All list members who enjoy acces to Heritage Quest ships list indexes and US census databases should make certain that you are not going to lose access to that service in the near future. Check with your HQ database server. If Heritage Quest / ProQuest database access is still available you may want to complete the searches you know you want to make as soon as possible. Or you might consider purchasing the database CDs if they are available. The following announcement by Godfrey Library concerns access to Heritage Quest on line at that center. This may have something to do with the Heritage Creations bankruptcy or it may be for other reasons. For example, ProQuest may have increased subscription fees too much or privacy limitations .may have made access too complex. The following appeared in Eastman's Genealogy Newsletter: NOTE that a description of the database content is available at the URL at the end of the announcement. That website has links to a lot of other valuable genealogy URLs Karen January 31, 2006 Update: HeritageQuest Online On December 28, I published an announcement stating that the Godfrey Memorial Library in Middletown, Connecticut, is in the process of dropping HeritageQuest Online from its portfolio of offerings. This caused a lot of consternation amongst genealogists, as this had been a very popular offering for the Library. Many genealogists had joined the Godfrey Memorial Library's membership program for $35 a year solely for the purpose of accessing HeritageQuest Online and its many excellent databases of census records, digitized genealogy and local history books, Revolutionary War pensions, and more. That's a bit ironic as most Americans already could obtain free access to the same databases. The few that cannot find free access can obtain access via several other providers for $35 a year or less. In the discussion board on http://www.eogn.com, newsletter reader Chris Dunham wrote: Has anyone thought of maintaining a list online of participating libraries and societies? Maybe an entry for HeritageQuest Online could be added to the Encyclopedia of Genealogy so that visitors could add (or delete, as necessary) access points. I thought Chris' suggestion was a good one so I created such a page and added information about 40 such libraries. Since then, that page has been updated hundreds of times by other newsletter readers. That page on the Encyclopedia of Genealogy now provides a very long list of libraries that offer free, in-home access to HeritageQuest Online. It also lists nine more organizations that provide in-home access for a fee. Five of them do so for less than $40 a year. You can find this long list on the Encyclopedia of Genealogy at http://www.eogen.com/HeritageQuestOnline

Wow, I wondered why I stopped receiving the magazine. This is sad news. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: KarenHob@aol.com [mailto:KarenHob@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:47 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Heritage Quest; Genealogy Magazines bankrupt The publisher of Heritage Quest Magazine and Genealogy Magazine has declared bankruptcy. He hopes to find a buyer for the magazines since they have a large subscriber base who they want to keep serving. If you subscribe to either magazine you can see the notice from the publisher at: http://genealogyblog.com/public-records-in-crisis/heritage-creations-filing- fo r-chapter-7-bankruptcy-1528 Karen ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an archive.

Steven Morse's ships list website has been mentioned several times recently. There is a very good description of that website at: http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/05/onestep_portal_.html or go right to the site and begin searching. http://www.stevemorse.org/ Karen

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2006/01/ancestral_autho.html#mo re New version of ANCESTRAL AUTHOR. Read what it does at the URL above. Here is a quote about the program from a user who wrote the article at the URL above. "To use this program, you first create a GEDCOM file from your genealogy database, and then tell Ancestral Author where to find that file. Ancestral Author will read the GEDCOM file and then publish PDF (Portable Document Format) files of the data. ...snip... Using Ancestral Author, I effortlessly produced a PDF file that contains a customized document of my genealogical research, with lineages documented in a Register Style report. One of the great things about Ancestral Author is that the Register reports are hyperlinked. Click on a name, and you are brought to the page on which that person appears. The index is hyperlinked, too. " Karen

Privacy concerns recently caused the shutdown of a popular US recent deaths database. FindUSA is no longer on line on the Internet except to institutional subscribers. Other databases still operating are: www.1800ussearch.com www.LocateAmerica.com www.Intelius.com www.ZabaSearch.com www.peoplefinders.com www.usa-people-search.com And the rootsweb SSDI database at: http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi The SSDI database at Rootsweb is free and has the names of all persons who had Social Security and who have died. It will not list anly one who did not participate in Social Security. ZabaSearch is a free search of living persons. If you click on one of the results in a search results list it shows you all of the search engines it uses. Some of the other URLs work only by subscription. Because of some of the rumored privacy concerns in various states it may be a good idea to do your searching of these on line databases soo -- while they are still available. Even though the data they publish is a matter of public record they may face shutdown on a state by state basis in the future. Karen Karen

The publisher of Heritage Quest Magazine and Genealogy Magazine has declared bankruptcy. He hopes to find a buyer for the magazines since they have a large subscriber base who they want to keep serving. If you subscribe to either magazine you can see the notice from the publisher at: http://genealogyblog.com/public-records-in-crisis/heritage-creations-filing-fo r-chapter-7-bankruptcy-1528 Karen

Hi, Dollie, Here are some links: http://castlegarden.org www.immigrantships.net http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/neworleans.html. The last site is compiled by Joe Beine and has lots of information about where to look for immigrant ships. Both of the other two are constantly being updated, so it is a good idea to bookmark them and check back ever so often. Some of us will never find the ship we are looking for because the original manifest was missing or in such poor condition it could not be read or was not put on microfilm. I have not done research in Texas so I can't answer your question. Have you tried putting something like "Texas immigration" in your browser to see what you might get. Or have you joined your local genealogical society, or checked with your local library? Hope you find them. LaVerne

This is for LaVerne. What is the address for the Casttle Garden site. My people where German immigrants just before 1850 and I'm not even sure which port they came into. If they landed in Galveston or Indianola would that have been their first port of call. They were Texas settlers. Thank you D Johnson _______________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaVerne" <ltboehmke@sbcglobal.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] 1892 Ellis Island > Ellis Island was not an immigration center before 1892. So it is better to try the Castle Garden site which was an earlier immigration center. LaVerne > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an archive. > >

Ellis Island was not an immigration center before 1892. So it is better to try the Castle Garden site which was an earlier immigration center. LaVerne

Since your ancestors came to the US before 1870 you might look for their names in a film file at the LDS family history library: Grundbuchblatter Diverse See: FamilySearch.org Click on Library; library catalog; and use the words above as title or keywords. The FILM NOTES will give you the number of the fillms with names starting with Po and Sve The films show the personal records of Bohemians who served in the Austrian army. They always give a place of birth. You may not find Anton Pokrefkiy or Franz Pokrefky but if you find anyone with that name you will know where he lived. If there is more than one record with that name besure to copy all of them. Then find the birthplaces mentioned on all of them. You may find that they cluster together within 25 miles or so of each other. That will at least tell you an area where your surname(s) could be found. A check of parish records will tell you more -- may find the name with the first names you need. Do you know if these ancestors spoke Czech at home? If they did they may have been Czech and not German-Bohemian. I ask because their names appear to be Czech, not German. The Baca books are found at virtually every genealogy collection in US public libraries as well as at the LDS. Find out if they are in your local library or the library of the nearest big city. Karen

I'd recommend the Bohemia and Czech mailing lists among others mentioned at http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-cze.html Elaine > Joann, this is the German Bohemian site. Not > one of your surnames is > German, so I doubt that anyone can help you > here. You have to get to the > Czech genealogical site, they probably could > be much more helpful in your > case. But they will also need to know from > where they came. So I suggest > that you use this link here and put the last > names in it, to see when they > arrived at Ellis Island. They have a name > register and you may be able to > find their place of origin. Try this, before you contact the Czech > Bohemians, and good luck! > Aida > Ellis Island Register - search by surname > http://webcenter.ellisisland.netscape.com/sign/index.asp > Czech City locator map: > http://mapy.atlas.cz/mapviewer/mapviewer.aspx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joann Pokrefky" <joann809@msn.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla >> Hi >> I really don't know where these two >> families came from. Pokrefky is >> suppose to be german Bohemian. Anton >> (Anthony) Pokrefky came to the US >> about 1869 with his wife Josephina >> Bellahovak and 1 son that I know of >> Frank Anthony Pokrefky who was about 7 >> years old. I don't know what cities >> they came from and I don't know how to go about finding out. >> Michael Svehla and his wife Maria ?, came >> to the US also about 1869 they >> came with 4 children, Maria b 1856, John b >> 1857/58, Michael jr. 1860/61, >> Frank 1863/64 and Anna 1867 and they had >> two more children in the US. >> Both families came in at New York. Both >> families settled in Detroit, >> Michigan. I was told that someone might >> have the Leo Baca Books and that I >> would probably find them in vol IV, if some >> kind soul would look them up >> for me I would be grateful. >> If anyone can help me or point me in the >> right direction, it would be >> greatly appreciated. Hoping to hear from >> some one. My E-Mail address is >> joann809@msn.com<mailto:joann809@msn.com<about:blank>> >> Joann >> >

Oh, it's www.stevemorse.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "aida kraus" <akibb1@verizon.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > Joann, this is the German Bohemian site. Not one of your surnames is > German, so I doubt that anyone can help you here. You have to get to the > Czech genealogical site, they probably could be much more helpful in your > case. But they will also need to know from where they came. So I suggest > that you use this link here and put the last names in it, to see when they > arrived at Ellis Island. They have a name register and you may be able to > find their place of origin. Try this, before you contact the Czech > Bohemians, and good luck! > Aida > Ellis Island Register - search by surname > http://webcenter.ellisisland.netscape.com/sign/index.asp > Czech City locator map: > http://mapy.atlas.cz/mapviewer/mapviewer.aspx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joann Pokrefky" <joann809@msn.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > > >> Hi >> I really don't know where these two families came from. Pokrefky is >> suppose to be german Bohemian. Anton (Anthony) Pokrefky came to the US >> about 1869 with his wife Josephina Bellahovak and 1 son that I know of >> Frank Anthony Pokrefky who was about 7 years old. I don't know what >> cities they came from and I don't know how to go about finding out. >> Michael Svehla and his wife Maria ?, came to the US also about 1869 they >> came with 4 children, Maria b 1856, John b 1857/58, Michael jr. 1860/61, >> Frank 1863/64 and Anna 1867 and they had two more children in the US. >> Both families came in at New York. Both families settled in Detroit, >> Michigan. I was told that someone might have the Leo Baca Books and that >> I would probably find them in vol IV, if some kind soul would look them >> up for me I would be grateful. >> If anyone can help me or point me in the right direction, it would be >> greatly appreciated. Hoping to hear from some one. My E-Mail address is >> joann809@msn.com<mailto:joann809@msn.com<about:blank>> >> Joann >> >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >> list? >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an >> archive. >> > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >

Also the Stephen Morse website is helpful: www.StephenMorse.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "aida kraus" <akibb1@verizon.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > Joann, this is the German Bohemian site. Not one of your surnames is > German, so I doubt that anyone can help you here. You have to get to the > Czech genealogical site, they probably could be much more helpful in your > case. But they will also need to know from where they came. So I suggest > that you use this link here and put the last names in it, to see when they > arrived at Ellis Island. They have a name register and you may be able to > find their place of origin. Try this, before you contact the Czech > Bohemians, and good luck! > Aida > Ellis Island Register - search by surname > http://webcenter.ellisisland.netscape.com/sign/index.asp > Czech City locator map: > http://mapy.atlas.cz/mapviewer/mapviewer.aspx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joann Pokrefky" <joann809@msn.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > > >> Hi >> I really don't know where these two families came from. Pokrefky is >> suppose to be german Bohemian. Anton (Anthony) Pokrefky came to the US >> about 1869 with his wife Josephina Bellahovak and 1 son that I know of >> Frank Anthony Pokrefky who was about 7 years old. I don't know what >> cities they came from and I don't know how to go about finding out. >> Michael Svehla and his wife Maria ?, came to the US also about 1869 they >> came with 4 children, Maria b 1856, John b 1857/58, Michael jr. 1860/61, >> Frank 1863/64 and Anna 1867 and they had two more children in the US. >> Both families came in at New York. Both families settled in Detroit, >> Michigan. I was told that someone might have the Leo Baca Books and that >> I would probably find them in vol IV, if some kind soul would look them >> up for me I would be grateful. >> If anyone can help me or point me in the right direction, it would be >> greatly appreciated. Hoping to hear from some one. My E-Mail address is >> joann809@msn.com<mailto:joann809@msn.com<about:blank>> >> Joann >> >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >> list? >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an >> archive. >> > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >