There is a special research week in Salt Lake City June 11-16 It is an open enrollment week. See: http://www.ancestorseekers.com/slcrt.htm for details. If you know some of the films you would want to view they should be ordered in advance of your arrival. Austrian miliatry films (as an example) take at least 48 hours to reach the reading room after ordering. A visit to Salt Lake City may be the only way to view any records that are less than 100 years old like some soldier and officer records for the Austrian army for WW I, to include death records. The restricted films would also include any civil records that are less than 100 years old. You can view these films in SLC by requesting and signing a form that says you are a direct descendant of the person you are researching and you will use any data for genealogical purposes only. At least that was the situation about a year ago. Be sure to inquire if you can view restricted films in SLC from the "ask us" link at the web site for the research week. Karen

What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement map, Lavrentiy? << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in this time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How about the early 1900's? I appreciate any comments. Jo Davis

The notice below is about a book that may interest list members. It has been hard to find English versions of letters and diaries about German settlers' life in America and this novel (not a transcription of a journal or letters) may be a very good source. From the H-GAGCS list: Lorie A. Vanchena, Assistant Professor of German at Creighton University, works in the area of nineteenth-century German and German- American literature and culture. Her English translation and edition of Reinhold Solger’s Anton in Amerika: Novelle aus dem deutsch- amerikanischen Leben (Anton in America: A Novel from German-American Life) is forthcoming. An Internet search with the author's name provides: Creighton U - Modern Languages & Literatures Lorie Vanchena, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of German ... Phone: (402) 280-2957 Fax: (402) 280-3703 E-Mail: vanchena@creighton.edu ... http://0-www.creighton.edu.library.unl.edu/ml/faculty/vanchena.htm Anyone who wants to know more about when the book will be available might contact professor Vanchena. Generally books like this are put out by an academic publisher and the first edition may be only 500 copies. They can be somewhat expensive at first and this one may appear in some University libraries within 3 months of publication, making it available for interlibrary loan. After about a year the books remaining in publisher's stock may be "remaindered" at less than 1/2 the original retail price. Checking sources like Alibris.com and Amanzon.com from time to time allows a "price watch" for those interested in buying. Karen

If you give subject website a bit time to completely download, you will find text below it. I am copying some of the information here, so that you can go to the Schtetl seeker for the Jewish population in that area. Although this website is geared towards German settlements in these areas, they have a demograpy (see below) and it is a historic fact that where there were German settlements there were Jewish settlements as well. You can see that there is more Jewish population than German. Aida The text below is from that map link, so be sure to download it completely! a.. The first offical Russian census was held in 1897, highlighting the following ethnic groups in millions: 55 - Russians 22 - Ukrainians 8 - Poles 6 - White Russians 5 - Jews 4 - Balts 3 - Caucasians 2 - Germans (rounded from 1.8) "The following villages were established: 1894 - Podsosnovo; 1906 - Canes, Nikolaevka; 1907 - Protasovo, Elizavetgrad, Telmanovo, Krasnoarmejka, Marjanovka; 1908 - Gljaden, Udalnoe, Grishakovka, Orlovo, Kusak, Boronsk; 1909 - Cloroshee, Mixajlovka; 1910 - Sambor, Shoomanovka, Nikolaevka; 1912 - Ananjevka, Ekaterinovka, Serebropolje; and 1913 - Kamishenka. In total, the Slavgorodsk District had 14 German settlements by 1907 and 16 by 1909. By 1914, the German population in the district had more than 17 thousand men. The first German settlements experienced religious segregation. The Catholics settled in Olgino, Otradnoe, and Barskoe, and the Lutherans lived in Novenkoe, Kruglenkoe, Podsosnovo and Prishib. Among the settlers were Altai Mennonites. Altay Mennonites basically came from the earlier based affiliated colonies of Orlovo-Zagradovskoi, Ufa, Samara, Orenburg, and the Crimeas. In 1910, the German villages were incorporated into Oryol volosts (small rural districts). In 1916, one more volost was formed with Xorise as its center, which completed the formation of German settlements in Altai. The settlers who arrived later were placed in the existing occupied villages. " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Davis" <scenmkr106@wowway.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia Settlements > What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement > map, Lavrentiy? > << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > > Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in > this time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? > How about the early 1900's? > > I appreciate any comments. > > Jo Davis > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html >

Karin! There is a Linzmayer Josef mrd to a Barbara Mueller (1803)\ in Mariahilf Otto ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Jacob Linzmayer > The LDS film title: Ansiedlerakten lists families that migrated > from > Bohemia to Galicia and Bukovina in 1782 and later. > > Look for Linzmayers in that film as a starting point. > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:38:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, etm1935@yahoo.com writes: The Czech mailing list, a general mailing list for the Czech crownlands, has many Chicago researchers on it and is not restricted to surname research. See CZECH. A mailing list for those interested in researching Czech ancestors in the Czech crownlands of Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia. Additional information can be found on the Czech Mail List On Rootsweb website. To subscribe send "subscribe" to czech-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or czech-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). Elaine Aida, Elaine is Elaine Maddox. She is the owner of the Czech-l list. I was on it for a while and it is very active. It generated so much mail I had to drop it. Anyway, you should put Elaine's Edress in your hat because you might want to write to her sooner or later. She is very well-informed about what is available where in CR. The list also has Czech translators on it. Some are students who want to practice and they translate on line for free. Karen

The Czech mailing list, a general mailing list for the Czech crownlands, has many Chicago researchers on it and is not restricted to surname research. See CZECH. A mailing list for those interested in researching Czech ancestors in the Czech crownlands of Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia. Additional information can be found on the Czech Mail List On Rootsweb website. To subscribe send "subscribe" to czech-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or czech-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). Elaine If you cannot convince them, confuse them. --Harry S. Truman Hello aida On Wednesday, March 8, 2006, you wrote > You may want to connect to the links given > below, because yours are all > Czech surnames and would not likely be found on > the German Bohemian list. > Also, that your ancestors moved to Chicago, > where there is a large Czech > community gives an indication that they are of > Czech nationality. See > contact below: > CZECH-SURNAMES. A mailing list for the > discussion and sharing of > information regarding surnames and given names from the former > Czechoslovakia including the current Czech and > Slovak Republics, Bohemia, > Moravia, and portions of Silesia. To subscribe send "subscribe" to > czech-surnames-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or > czech-surnames-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). > Aida > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joann Pokrefky" <joann809@msn.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla >> Hi Evelyn, >> I am interested in the Svehla line. Do you know where in Bohemia they may >> have come from? I think 1 of my Svehla's Maria b 1855/6 married a Frank >> Riha b 1844/45. They inturn had 2 children also named Frank b 1879/80 & >> Maria b 1877/78. The parents were born in Bohemia and the children were >> born in Det. MI. They may have had more children. I think they movedto >> Chicago (Cook Co) ILL. >> Any lilght you can shine on this would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Joann >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: CZECHEKF@aol.com<mailto:CZECHEKF@aol.com> >> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla >> >> >> To whom it may concern >> >> I am familiar with the Svehla name.....but it also is not totally >> uncommon.....there were a number of Svehlas who settled in the Chicago >> area prior to >> 1900....all from various parts of Bohemia.... >> >> You may contact me for more information..... >> >> Evelyn >> >> Czechekf@aol.com<mailto:Czechekf@aol.com> >>

Hi Evelyn, I am interested in the Svehla line. Do you know where in Bohemia they may have come from? I think 1 of my Svehla's Maria b 1855/6 married a Frank Riha b 1844/45. They inturn had 2 children also named Frank b 1879/80 & Maria b 1877/78. The parents were born in Bohemia and the children were born in Det. MI. They may have had more children. I think they movedto Chicago (Cook Co) ILL. Any lilght you can shine on this would be greatly appreciated. Joann ----- Original Message ----- From: CZECHEKF@aol.com<mailto:CZECHEKF@aol.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla To whom it may concern I am familiar with the Svehla name.....but it also is not totally uncommon.....there were a number of Svehlas who settled in the Chicago area prior to 1900....all from various parts of Bohemia.... You may contact me for more information..... Evelyn Czechekf@aol.com<mailto:Czechekf@aol.com> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html> and request an archive.

You may want to connect to the links given below, because yours are all Czech surnames and would not likely be found on the German Bohemian list. Also, that your ancestors moved to Chicago, where there is a large Czech community gives an indication that they are of Czech nationality. See contact below: CZECH-SURNAMES. A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding surnames and given names from the former Czechoslovakia including the current Czech and Slovak Republics, Bohemia, Moravia, and portions of Silesia. To subscribe send "subscribe" to czech-surnames-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or czech-surnames-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). Aida --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joann Pokrefky" <joann809@msn.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > Hi Evelyn, > I am interested in the Svehla line. Do you know where in Bohemia they may > have come from? I think 1 of my Svehla's Maria b 1855/6 married a Frank > Riha b 1844/45. They inturn had 2 children also named Frank b 1879/80 & > Maria b 1877/78. The parents were born in Bohemia and the children were > born in Det. MI. They may have had more children. I think they movedto > Chicago (Cook Co) ILL. > Any lilght you can shine on this would be greatly appreciated. > > Joann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CZECHEKF@aol.com<mailto:CZECHEKF@aol.com> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] sirnames Pokrefky and Svehla > > > To whom it may concern > > I am familiar with the Svehla name.....but it also is not totally > uncommon.....there were a number of Svehlas who settled in the Chicago > area prior to > 1900....all from various parts of Bohemia.... > > You may contact me for more information..... > > Evelyn > > Czechekf@aol.com<mailto:Czechekf@aol.com> > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html> > and request an archive. > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an > archive. >

Hi, start with the following URL: http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_en.html or http://www.vsff.de/ and select the "(E) " behind "Sudetenland Genenalogy Home (D)" in the second line of the page. Kai (-Uwe Schaefer) KarenHob@aol.com schrieb: > The VSFF website is the best place to learn about church records. > > > Go to Google.com > Search with VSFF > > 2nd hit is: > Vereinigung Sudetendeutscher Familienforscher eV(VSFF) - [ Translate this > page ] German Genealogy: Genealogical Society VSFF. ... Stadt Regensburg, Amt für > Archiv und Denkmalpflege, VSFF-SGA Postfach 110643 (Paketadresse: > Kepplerstraße 1 ... > www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/VSFF/vsff-de.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages > >

In a message dated 3/8/2006 10:16:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, kai-uwe.schaefer@telelev.net writes: http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_en.html Thanks for that URL, Uwe!! I did not know the site had been translated and I do not go there often enough to learn that otherwise! Karen

The VSFF website is the best place to learn about church records. Go to Google.com Search with VSFF 2nd hit is: Vereinigung Sudetendeutscher Familienforscher eV(VSFF) - [ Translate this page ] German Genealogy: Genealogical Society VSFF. ... Stadt Regensburg, Amt für Archiv und Denkmalpflege, VSFF-SGA Postfach 110643 (Paketadresse: Kepplerstraße 1 ... www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/VSFF/vsff-de.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Click on translate this page. On the home page click on: Family research in Boehmen, Maehren and Austrian Schlesien . On the next page click on the letter of the alphabet that includes an ancestral parish. You may not find your place name because the translator translates everything, even place names!! However the Czech place names next to the translated ones are left intact. If you know the Czech name of your place you will find it. Tachau is "translated" as Tacstrike but the CZ Tachov is next to it. If you click on the link for churchbooks i n the Tachau listing there is another list of place names included in those books and some of them are also translated. On that page is says which ARCHIVE has the records. After you print the page in English start over without the translation and the print the page in German. That way you will have the correct German spelling of all the place names.. To use this website one must know the name of the ancestral parish as well as the birthplace. They may not be the same. The name of the parish is the place where the church was located. Karen Karen

I know that the Sudeten Landsmannschaft is a group with a political agenda. I did not send their URL because I agree with them. I forwarded the URL to their website because the site includes so many very good links to other Sudeten websites -- including links to most of the Geman-Bohemian Heimat groups.. Kren

I just realized that all of the links I sent on AOL were probably non-functional because that ISP "cleaned them up" as a security measure. Some of the list is actual URLs but most of it just points to a URL. There is a possibility that those who are interested in a given subject will get the right URL with a simple internet search using the subject line in my list. If anyone wants the actual URL for a certain link, contact me off list and I will give it to you. The URLs for the Sudeten sites are: http://www.dbb-ev.de/ http://www.s-line.de/homepages/wf/dav-sudeten/index.html?/homepages/wf/dav-sud eten/sudeten-huette/sudeten-huette.html http://www.sudeten-bw.de/a04.htm http://www.sudeten.de/bas/index_a.htm http://www.sudeten.at/de/index.shtml http://www.sudetendeutsche-stiftung.de/ (about Sudetenhaus museum in Munich) Karen

The list of links below includes areas where Germans once lived or now live outside of Germany and Austria. The list is alphabetical by area so the Sudetens are pretty far down. However, there are many of us who had ancestors from other areas (mine came from Posen) and the extra links may be worth checking. I tested them all so I know they worked on my system. The list is in German and many of the sites are in German. When interested in one of the sites: Go to the page connected to the link. Copy the first part of the URL after the www. and before the first / forward slash. Just enough to identify the subject of the site. Start Google.com Type the partial URL in the Google search window. Search. This should give a list of hits. Compare them to your URL. Select the one that will take you back to the same website. There should be [translate this page] option in the first line of the hit. Click on that and the page should come up in readable English. If you copy the whole URL, be sure to use only the "subject" words near the beginning when searching with Google. If you enter too much it will just take you right back to the German website without the option to translate. Karen Baltikum Baltische Tourismus Zentrale http://www.baltikuminfo.de/index.php?p= Deutschbalten Deutsch-Baltische Landsmannschaft Deutsch-Baltischer Verein Banat/Batschka Banater Bergland - photos, Chronicle of Weidenthal Banater Heide - Banat and its people, calendar (click on each month for artwork) BOOKS about Germans of Banat and their settlements, folktales, contact, links (see: http://www.banaterheide.de/htm/frameset.htm People looking for certain surnames. Banater Dörfer -- Alphabetical list of German settlments Banater Schwaben - Donauschwaben - photos from three places. Click on the links on the home page and scroll down after doing so. Banaters Around the World - in English Donauschwaben Bayern - Danube Schwabians in Bavaria Donauschwaben Chicago - Donauschwaben Cleveland -http://www.donauschwabencleveland.com/ Donauschwäbische Tanzgruppe Los Angeles - this site has links to many other US websites Donauschwäbisches Zentralmuseum Ulm Institut für donauschwäbische Geschichte und Landeskunde Landesverband der Donauschwaben USA http://donauschwaben-usa.org/ Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben Verband der Donauschwaben in Kanada Völkermord der Tito-Partisanen 1944 -1948 about anti-German events 1944-48 (eventual expulsion of survivors) Heimatortsgemeinden (HOG) http://www.banater-aktualitaet.de/link.htm Billed Bruckenau Grabatz Lenauheim Palanka Bessarabien Bessarabia Website Bessarabiendeutsche -- many links. http://www.bessarabien.de/verweise/index.htm Das Hilfskomitee -- committee of Ev. Lutheran church. The majority of Germans in Bessarabia were Lutheran and then Mennonite. Catholics, Jews and others were minorities. The committee does not restrict its work to Ev. Lutherans. Landsmannschaft der Bessarabiendeutschen Welcome to the Bessarabia Home Page - tourism http://www.bessarabien.de/bess/index.htm a short history of German settlers to Bessarabia Book List from museum in Germany is at http://www.bessarabien.de/heim/deutsch/start.htm Danziger Bund der deutschen Minderheit in Danzig Danzig - Geschichte und Menschen Danziger Online Gottscheer -- now in Slovenia Homepage der Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Gottscheer Landsmannschaften Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association Gottscheer Relief Association, New York Erster österreichischer Kranken-Unterstützungsverein E.O.U.V., Cleveland Karpatendeutsche Carpathia Club Detroit Carpathian Germans Homepage Hilfsbund Karpatendeutscher Katholiken Karpatenblatt - Monatsblatt der Deutschen in der Slowakei Karpatendeutsche Genealogie Karpatendeutsche Landsmannschaft Die Karpatendeutschen aus der Slowakei Oberschlesier Landsmannschaft der Oberschlesier Mein Herz für Oberschlesien Unser Oberschlesien Heimatortsgemeinden (HOG) Gross-Peterwitz Ostpreußen Aufbau Bernsteinland Ostpreußen Bund Junges Ostpreußen Das Diskussionsforum Ostpreußen Ermland, Masuren und Kaschubei: Pensionen und Ferienhäuser Familienforschung in Ost- und Westpreußen Heimatkreisgemeinschaft Gerdauen Junge Landsmannschaft Ostpreussen Königsberger Nachrichten Kulturzentrum Ostpreußen Landsmannschaft Ostpreußen Lorbasse und Marjellchens Ostpreußen Ostpreußen Ostpreußen- und Ahnenseiten Ostpreußen und Heimat Das Ostpreußenblatt Ostpreußisches Landesmuseum Lüneburg Ostheim: Jugendbildungs- und Tagesstätte Urlaub in Masuren Verein für Familienforschung Ost- und Westpreußen Willkommen in Masuren Zuchtverband für ostpreußische Skudden Pommern Bekannte Persönlichkeiten aus Pommern Die Pommersche Zeitung Ernst-Moritz-Arndt-Universität Greifswald Ferienwohnungen am Meer Gesellschaft für Pommersche Geschichte, Altertumskunde und Kunst Heimatgruppe Pollnow in Pommern Helferbund Rita von Gaudecker Pommern - Das Land am Meer Pommernkontakte Pommersche Evangelische Kirche Pommerscher Greif Pommerscher Kreis- und Städtetag Pommersche Landsmannschaft Pommern Weltseite Verein zur Förderung des Pommern-Zentrums Vertreibungsberichte Zeitschrift Pommern Schlesier Bundesheimatgruppe Stadt und Kreis Strehlen Das schlesische Portal Grafschaft Glatz Hindenburg - Stadt der Gruben und Hütten Landsmannschaft Schlesien Schlesischer Heimatverein Patschkau und Umgebung Schlesische Jugend Stadt und Kreis Reichenbach Heimatortsgemeinden (HOG) Gleiwitz Siebenbürger Sachsen Landsmannschaft der Siebenbürger Sachsen Siebenbürger Sachsen Zeitzeugenberichte Sudetendeutsche Deutscher Böhmerwald Bund Sudetendeutsche Hütte - mountain tourism Sudetendeutsche in aller Welt Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft in Österreich Sudetendeutsche Stiftung Rußlanddeutsche American Historical Society of Germans From Russia Die Anni Beidash Hilfsaktion Germans from Russia Heritage Society Landsmannschaft der Deutschen aus Rußland Rußlanddeutsche Rußlanddeutsche - Ein Volk auf der Wanderschaft Rußlanddeutsche Links Deutschlands http://www.prairiepublic.org/features/GFR/timeline.htm - when migrations occurred Familienforschung in Westpreußen Westpreußen Landsmannschft Westpreußisches Landesmuseum

In a message dated 3/7/2006 9:08:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, LKrupnak@erols.com writes: Northern half of former Bukowina province in now in Ukraine and southern half in Romania. Laurenty is correct about the southern half of Bukowina now being in Romania. I found a map at: http://www.aboutromania.com/maps3.html Moldavia / Moldova appears to be too far east to include much of Bukowina. Another map at: http://www.scholtoi.de/Villages.html shows the relative location of Bessarabia (old name for Moldova) to Bukovina. It was once known as Bessarabia and there were a number of German settlements, especially in the south. Those who have an interest in those German settlements see: http://www.grhs.com/bessarabia/ The website includes a list of LDS fims available for Bessarabian villages. http://www.grhs.com/bessarabia/Bess_FILMLIST_2005.pdf The list can be saved to disk by interested researchers. Place names are listed with film numbers. Remember, the LDS is always updating the film library and this list is datedd 2005. Check about every 3-6 months for new updates. The best way to find ALL Bessarabia films is with a KEYWORD search of the catalog using a Bessarabian place name or Bessarabia. A websearch using Germans Bessarabia hits: http://www.scholtoi.de/index_en.html The home page says this village was settled by Germans from GALICIA as well as resettled Germans from villages in northern Bessarabia.. Under the geography link at the site is a note that Ugartsthal and Kolomea were the places from which the Galicians came. There is a link to villages on the home page. Click to get and alphabetical list of German names of settlements. A map of the German settlements is at: http://www.scholtoi.de/PDF/DeutscheBessarabien.pdf Genealogists interested in that area should know that Bessarabia was joined to Romania 1919-1940. From 1940 to 1991 there was a separate Socialist Republic of Moldavia (part of USSR) that included most of old Bessarabia except for the northermost part. -- which may now be in Ukraine. The most helpful resources may be with "Germans from Russia", but also search for information on Moldova Germans and Bessarabia Germans. Because of the mixed history, documents may be in Romanian, Moldovian or Russian. There may even be some in German. There is an interesting essay about the area's language and history at: http://www.east-west-wg.org/cst/cst-mold/diana.html There was a recent TV broadcast about Moldova. The gist of it was that the area is one of the poorest in Eastern Europe. Karen

Northern half of former Bukowina province in now in Ukraine and southern half in Romania. _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > > The following information applies to any search for parish records, not just > those of Bukovina. > > I forgot to mention the Linzmayer place name Bajnitz is a German spelling. > > That place may have also had a Slavic name. Today it may be in Belarus, > Ukraine or, IF it is very far south in Bukovina, in Moldovia and it may have yet > another name. > > It is a good idea to know all the past and present names for a place when > beginning a search for records. > > It is also necessary to know where the parish church was located. Some > parish communities included several villages within walking distance from the > place with the church. > > Get a high resolution map showing the ancestral place as well as all the > places within 10 km. It should also include symbols showing locations of churches > if possible -- usually a black circle with a cross on top of it. > > You should be able to get one from the University of Wisconsin Geography > Library. Call 1-800-558-8993 to speak to a librarian. > > The LDS also has black and white films of old Austrian military maps that > are in very high resolution. You just have to be sure you get the film > that has the right latitude and longitude on it. > > www.familysearch.org for the online catalog. > > Spezialkarte der österreichisch-ungarischen Monarchie > Film numbers 6000198 - 6000339. > Film 6000198 is the index. The index data should make it > possible to identify the number of the right map and film. > > Some places once in Bukovina may have records in Lviv. > > The Third Reich "liberated" a lot of church records from Eastern Europe in > the 1940s and they took them to Berlin for microfilming. The LDS has copies > of the films -- or they may have made their own films. > > The AUTHOR of those films is usually: Reichssippenamt > An AUTHOR search using that word with the name of a land (Poland or Russia > work best) finds the church records and also some census records > (Volkszahlung) made by the Third Reich. > > The "liberated" originals of protestant records on film remain in Potsdam > archive. The Roman Catholic records were in the German Catholic Archive in > Regensberg. Germany has recently given the originals back to Poland and they may > now be in an archive there. The old microfilms are still in Regensberg but > the archivists say some are hard to read because of a poor focus when the > film was made. > > In some cases Christian church records willl include Jews. A KEYWORD search > with the name of a modern country plus Jewish should find those > records, if any. > > If the LDS made their own copies from the original records they would not > have the problem of bad focus. Then Regensberg would have copies of the LDS > films. We have to assume that the poor copies are all that are available > for some of the Catholic parishes but it is still worth a look if the LDS has > a copy of any film with an ancestral place name on it. > > Church records usually have the type of record as the TITLE and the name of > the parish as the AUTHOR. The list of villages included in the parish > community are in Title Details. Sometimes there will be additional places listed > in Film Notes. > > Older entries in the LDS catalog give titles in the original language. > Newest entries may have English "Titles" saying "Metrical Books". > Other English words may also apply in the very latest additions to the > catalog. > . > A KEYWORD search with Poland Church Records finds over > 10,000 titles. Reduce the number of hits with separate searches > using: Poland Catholic; Poland Greek Catholic; Poland Greek Orthodox, > Poland Jewish as appropriate. Most titles hit with Greek Orthdox will be > in Russian Cyrillic script. However, the older records on the films may be in > German or Polish so select for year dates if an ancestral parish can be > identified. > > Learn the Cyrillic spelling for an ancestral parish if the parish was located > in what is now Ukraine or another "Russian" area. The University of Wisconsin > library may be able to provide that. as well as the correct spelling of all > other > names used by a certain place. > > Use the KEYWORD search with the ancestral place name to find what the LDS > has. Start with the German name of the parish (place where church was located) > and repeat the KEYWORD search with all other spellings of that place name. > > The KEYWORD search hits include all mentions of that place name > in titles, title details and film notes. A PLACE search will only find > the titles that have the place name in the title data. > > Karen

Wilfred Linzmayer wrote: > > I am new to the list and live in Canada.I am searching for information on > the birth and marriage for Jacob Linzmayer, his first wife,Anna,and his > second wife,Barbara. I have found the death record for Jacob and Barbara on > LDS film 1766999. Jacob died Oct 12, 1827 at # 32 Bajnitz, Bukovina at 90 > years of age (born 1738) and Barbara died Nov 3, 1823 at 65 years also at > #32 Bajnitz, Bukovina (born 1758). Is "Bajnitz" the correct spelling? - see: http://www.bukovinasociety.org/Bukovina-Village-Name-List.html > These Bukovina record give no reference > to the birth place of Jacob, Anna, and Barbara. Karen Eddy's Rootweb site > contain several Linzmayer's with first name similar to those in Jacob's > family with one Johann Adam born Feb 7, 1730 in Eisenstrass,Bohemia and > another born Sept 13,1745 also in Eisenstrass, Bohemia. The Bobovina > Institute in Augsberg, Germany have suggested that Jacob likely comes from > Bohemia but could direct me to a specific parish. > Is anyone on the list familiar with the Linzmayer genealogy? Can anyone > give me direction on how to find Jacob's birthplace?

William: I found my records swith the help of a Czech researcher in Pilsen. Jean

Richard Eastmans weekly newsletter states that some of the 1890 census records survived the fire that destroyed most of them. He refers to Internet searches turning up fragments of "....1890 in Alabama, Georgia, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, South Dakota, Texas, and the District of Columbia survived and are available now. " When we were last in Schuylkill County PA where my husband was born, we stopped at the local historical society and discovered that there was a county census book for 1890. We found all the data we needed in that book. We did not ask if all counties in PA took a census that year but that is a possibility. Be sure to ask at ancestral county and state historical societies if there was any census around 1890 besides the Federal one. Minnesota had a state census every year ending with 5. I know there is one for 1895. Many US Historical Societies have people who will do lookups for others on request. Ask about that or look for a link at any historical society wesbite. Karen