Folks, for what its worth, my 1880 Austrian Militaer Schematismus** shows the following Galician Infantry Regiments (IR’s): Note: This will help pinpoint places and identify what constituted Galicia in the 19th Century. * IR 9, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquartered in Olmuetz, Olomouc (Moravia) Recruiting district of STRYJ, Galicia. This IR was established in 1725. * IR 10, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters and Recruiting district in Przemysl, Galicia. This Regiment existed since 1745 * IR 13, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters and recruiting district Command in Krakau, (Krakov now Poland), established in 1640. * IR 15, Galizisches Infantry Regiment, Headquarters in Josephstadt, Recruiting district, Tarnopol. Regiments exist since 1701. * IR 20, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment , Headquarters in Vienna. Recruiting district Neu Sandec. Established in 1681. * IR 24, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Visegrad. Recruiting district of Kolomea. * IR 30, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headqarters and Recruiting district in Lemberg. Existed since 1723. * IR 45. Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquartered in Maglaj, Recruiting district Sanok. * IR 55, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Lemberg, Recruiting district Brzezan. * IR 56, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarters in Krakau, Recruiting district Wadovice. * IR 57, Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquarter in Troppau (Opava, CR) Recruiting district Tarnov. * IR 58 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquarters in Vienna. Recruiting district Stanislau est. 1763. * IR 77 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, Headquartered in Koeniggraetz (Hradec Kralove, CR) recruiting in Sambor. Est.1860 * IR 80 Galizisches Infantrie Regiment, headquarters in Lemberg, Recruited in district Zlocsov. Cavalry 10th Galizisches Dragoner Regiment, HQ in Stuhlweissenburg and recruited from Tarnopol. 11th Galizisches Dragoner Regiment. HQ in Czegled, Recruitment district Sambor In addition there was a Galizisches Feld-Jaeger, Battallion with HQ in Jaroslau recruiting in the district of Stanislau. And at least 6 Galician Uhlanen Regiments (Lancers) with recruitment from the above districts. ** Note on the Military Schematismus. It is a 1000 page “Who was who” in the Army and Navy of the Dual Monarchy in the year published and lists names in the Regimental Command, right down to Lieutenants, Cadets, medical staff and regimental Accountants, but not the Ranks. The Kriegsarchiv (War Archive) in Vienna has all of the Schematisma on display for review by the public (years 1700’s – 1918) They are a rare commodity on the private market. If you can get one you will have to pay a steep price. My copy is a very fragile document. Our Karen Hobbs is familiar with it. If you need a look-up please ask, but only for specific (not general) questions, please. Frank . .. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 3/8/2006

Queridos Alemanes-Bohemianos, \ There is no such place as Galacia Spain. There is a Galicia, Spain and they, the Gallegos, are aware of the other one or two areas in Europe, that bear that quite common name. The Gallegos speak the tongue of the home and region which is called Gallego in Spanish and is a separate Romance language akin more to Portuguese than the official Spanish which all learn in school. The Galician culture descends in many forms from the Celtic roots of the people and region. Many are unaware that this four province region of Spain has bagpipes and wooden shoes like other parts of northern Europe. very far removed from the stereotyped Spanish culture as found the South or Andalucian part of Spain. This region was named at least as far back as he Roman era and it is well known as the second most holy spot in Christian Europe from being the site of the tomb of ST, James the greater which is located in Santiago de Campostela which was the object of pilgrimages in Medieval times and, in fact, where Chaucer and his group were traveling to from Canterbury in old Geoff's days ,

http://www.daddezio.com/obituary/index.html#roip Regional index of on line obituaries. This website includes obituary mailing lists were individuals can request obituary information searches. They ask you to please submit your obituaries for their databases. You have to know the name of the' newspaper and the date it was published. That can be difficult when all you have is a clipping without any notation!! I clicked on United States and Minnesota and tried three of my ancestral surnames and found no listings. Researchers have to know that the New Ulm Journal (as an example of an German newspaper published in the 1870s and 1880s) did not follow an information format like those we see today. All the news ran 'together with reports of deaths, house fires, storms, births, school news, and other events in the surrounding area all on the same page without any headlines separating one item from the other. I remember finding a report of some drunken rowdies who were arrested after having a fist fight and creating a general ruckus that was described in some detail -- I found it quite funny. That was the paragraph just above the report of my great grandfather's death. I had to scan the whole page column by column to find the death report. All I could do was take a blank sheet of paper and move it down line by line looking for my great grandfather's name .... or the name of any other relative. There was no report about services pending in the death notice. That was in a later edition . It was just a item telling about a funeral and burial at St. Geoge without the usual obituary information about place of birth, etc. of the deceased. It may have mentioned some of the people who attended. I believe there was an English newspaper published at the same time in New Ulm and that may have been true for most places that had a large enough German population to support a German newspaper. Karen

There is a Galacia in Spain. I sometimes get hits for Spain when I am researchin Galicia. I think that also happens when searching the LDS catalog. Try to fin a way to limit you searches to exclude the Spanish sound-alike. See http://www.spainhomes.org/maps/Galacia.php Karen

Ole!! Thank you so much for your very informative description of the Spanish area!!! Gracias! The "Rolls map" I found on the Internet has "Galacia" printed on it in the area of Galicia. We are aware of Galicia in Spain and their probably Celtic culture. Thank you most profoundly! Just wanted to make sure not to have "missed" something. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: <Xekaxm2@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Galicia / Galacia > Queridos Alemanes-Bohemianos, > \ > There is no such place as Galacia Spain. > There is a Galicia, Spain and they, the Gallegos, are aware of the other one > or two areas in Europe, that bear that quite common name. The Gallegos > speak the tongue of the home and region which is called Gallego in Spanish and > is a separate Romance language akin more to Portuguese than the official > Spanish which all learn in school. The Galician culture descends in many forms > from the Celtic roots of the people and region. Many are unaware that this four > province region of Spain has bagpipes and wooden shoes like other parts of > northern Europe. very far removed from the stereotyped Spanish culture as > found the South or Andalucian part of Spain. This region was named at least as > far back as he Roman era and it is well known as the second most holy spot > in Christian Europe from being the site of the tomb of ST, James the greater > which is located in Santiago de Campostela which was the object of > pilgrimages in Medieval times and, in fact, where Chaucer and his group were traveling > to from Canterbury in old Geoff's days , > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist.html and request an archive. >

I explored Aida's map site a little. There is a list of the German settlements of Bessarabia linked there at http://www.rollintl.com/roll/bessarabia.htm Some Germans from the northern villages migrated to Galicia / Poland when political frontiers changed. Karen

Jo, The map shows the German settlement areas within Galicia province. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif Ne~met is German (in Magyar (Hungarian) language). Cseh = Czech Lengyel = Polish ruten = Ruthenian (Ukrainian) etc. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak Laurence Krupnak wrote: > > Hello Aida, > > Good map of Austro-Hungarian Empire in Hungarian language: > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif > > Galicia province is upper right side. > > ______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > aida kraus wrote: > > > > Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on > > any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? > > Aida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> > > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia > > Settlements > > > > > > > > Hello Jo, > > > > > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > > > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > > > located. > > > > > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > > > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > > > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > > > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > > > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > > > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > > > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > > > > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > > > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > > > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > > > > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > > > > > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > > > > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > > > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > > > during the 14-17th C. > > > > > > _______ > > > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: > > >> > > >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement > > >> map, > > >> Lavrentiy? > > >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > > >> > > >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in > > >> this > > >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How > > >> about the early 1900's? > > >> > > >> I appreciate any comments. > > >> > > >> Jo Davis

Hello Aida, Good map of Austro-Hungarian Empire in Hungarian language: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif Galicia province is upper right side. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak aida kraus wrote: > > Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on > any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? > Aida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia > Settlements > > > > > Hello Jo, > > > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > > located. > > > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > > during the 14-17th C. > > > > _______ > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: > >> > >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement > >> map, > >> Lavrentiy? > >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > >> > >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in > >> this > >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How > >> about the early 1900's? > >> > >> I appreciate any comments. > >> > >> Jo Davis

Ethnic Germans that resided in the following areas/nations were processed by the EWZ: USSR, Romania [includes all of Bukowina and Bessarabia], 1939 Poland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, Yugoslavia, France, Bulgaria, and S�d-Tirol Laurence Krupnak wrote: > > The LDS FHL currently has a relatively small number of the total EWZ > records that are available. The US microfilmed all of the captured > German records before they were returned to the Berlin Document > Center. The US National Archives in College Park, MD has the complete > set of EWZ records. > > EWZ = Einwanderungszentralstelle > > Sudenten Germans were not involved in the Nazi EWZ > resettlement/naturalization program. But, like Karen said if former > Sudenten Germans did reside in Eastern Europe during 1939-1940s they > were repatriated (resettled and/or naturalized) via the EWZ. > > ______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > > > > I have just learned that around 1920 ethnic German > > families from the Bohemian > > Egerland chose to migrate to Galicia rather than stay home > > under the rules of CZ. One of the villages they went to > > was Machiniec. > > > > I found one note that indicated the Germans from > > that place were "repatriated" by the Third Recih > > in 1940. That means that Galicians Germans who came > > from the Egerland in 1920 were sent to Germany > > in 1940. > > > > There are a lot of LDS films covering the repatriated > > Germans from Eastern Europe. > > Find them with a KEYWORD search using: > > The LDS currently has a relatively small number of the total EWZ > records. The US microfilmed of the captured German records before they > were given to the Berlin Document Center. The US microfilmed all of > the captured German records that were extant after WWII ended. The US > National Archives has the complete set of EWZ records. > > EWZ = Einwanderungszentralstelle > > > > > Germany immigration 1939- > > > > The 1939- limits the results to titles that include > > 1939 and later years. > > > > I have not reviewed those films and do not know > > if the birthplace of eachperson listed is given. > > > > If someone on the list has used them, please tell us > > what they include. > > > > I searched the Internet with: Galizien Egerl�nder > > and found some of the URLs below. > > > > Some of them are German surname lists associated with > > certain Galician villages that ended up in Russia in > > 1945 and are now in Ukraine. If the surnames are > > not right at the top, just keep scrolling through the > > page until you find them. > > > > The home page at http://www.machliniec.de/ has the > > names of some villages. Click on all the links to explore > > each village site. > > > > Surnames are at: > > > > http://www.machliniec.de/eger01.htm > > http://www.machliniec.de/gal012.htm > > http://www.machliniec.de/gal013.htm > > http://www.machliniec.de/gal089.htm > > http://www.machliniec.de/Images/Droesseldorf%20Ortsplan.jpg > > > > Search all the links at the sites below: Click on the English flag > > for English pages. > > > > http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof_m.html > > http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof.html > > > > Karen > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

The LDS FHL currently has a relatively small number of the total EWZ records that are available. The US microfilmed all of the captured German records before they were returned to the Berlin Document Center. The US National Archives in College Park, MD has the complete set of EWZ records. EWZ = Einwanderungszentralstelle Sudenten Germans were not involved in the Nazi EWZ resettlement/naturalization program. But, like Karen said if former Sudenten Germans did reside in Eastern Europe during 1939-1940s they were repatriated (resettled and/or naturalized) via the EWZ. ______ Lavrentiy Krupniak KarenHob@aol.com wrote: > > I have just learned that around 1920 ethnic German > families from the Bohemian > Egerland chose to migrate to Galicia rather than stay home > under the rules of CZ. One of the villages they went to > was Machiniec. > > I found one note that indicated the Germans from > that place were "repatriated" by the Third Recih > in 1940. That means that Galicians Germans who came > from the Egerland in 1920 were sent to Germany > in 1940. > > There are a lot of LDS films covering the repatriated > Germans from Eastern Europe. > Find them with a KEYWORD search using: The LDS currently has a relatively small number of the total EWZ records. The US microfilmed of the captured German records before they were given to the Berlin Document Center. The US microfilmed all of the captured German records that were extant after WWII ended. The US National Archives has the complete set of EWZ records. EWZ = Einwanderungszentralstelle > > Germany immigration 1939- > > The 1939- limits the results to titles that include > 1939 and later years. > > I have not reviewed those films and do not know > if the birthplace of eachperson listed is given. > > If someone on the list has used them, please tell us > what they include. > > I searched the Internet with: Galizien Egerländer > and found some of the URLs below. > > Some of them are German surname lists associated with > certain Galician villages that ended up in Russia in > 1945 and are now in Ukraine. If the surnames are > not right at the top, just keep scrolling through the > page until you find them. > > The home page at http://www.machliniec.de/ has the > names of some villages. Click on all the links to explore > each village site. > > Surnames are at: > > http://www.machliniec.de/eger01.htm > http://www.machliniec.de/gal012.htm > http://www.machliniec.de/gal013.htm > http://www.machliniec.de/gal089.htm > http://www.machliniec.de/Images/Droesseldorf%20Ortsplan.jpg > > Search all the links at the sites below: Click on the English flag > for English pages. > > http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof_m.html > http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof.html > > Karen

In a message dated 3/9/2006 2:02:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, LKrupnak@erols.com writes: http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html Don't overlook this URL!!! Karen

Mr. Krupniak has pointed out a very good website for Galician German descendants. Just use those three words as search words to find it. The map they have at: that website has been cited several times on this list. The complete map that is very large can be viewed on line. Then right click on it and choose: Save Picture as... Name it and save it. Then open the map in MS PAINT. Paint will automatically print it on as many sheets of paper as required by the settings you choose under the FILE command Page Setup command. If you do not care how large it is just print it without changing the settings. Karen

Thanks, Lavrentiy ... Your information is very much appreciated, read, filed, and stored ... against the day I find a hopeful "thread-of-a-trail" to follow to the homeland of my husband's DAVIS family. Still, if I never get that far, the journey will have been worth the time spent and knowledge gained. The history you and other list-members hold is astounding to me! One is never too old to learn something new :-), and there is certainly much for me to learn! What dedicated teachers YOU must have had, too! Thank you again for your reply! Jo Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia Settlements > > Hello Jo, > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > located. > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > during the 14-17th C. > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak >> Jo Davis wrote: ............................................................................................... >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement >> map, Lavrentiy? >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> >> >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in >> this time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? >> How about the early 1900's? >> >> I appreciate any comments. >> >> Jo Davis

I have just learned that around 1920 ethnic German families from the Bohemian Egerland chose to migrate to Galicia rather than stay home under the rules of CZ. One of the villages they went to was Machiniec. I found one note that indicated the Germans from that place were "repatriated" by the Third Recih in 1940. That means that Galicians Germans who came from the Egerland in 1920 were sent to Germany in 1940. There are a lot of LDS films covering the repatriated Germans from Eastern Europe. Find them with a KEYWORD search using: Germany immigration 1939- The 1939- limits the results to titles that include 1939 and later years. I have not reviewed those films and do not know if the birthplace of eachperson listed is given. If someone on the list has used them, please tell us what they include. I searched the Internet with: Galizien Egerländer and found some of the URLs below. Some of them are German surname lists associated with certain Galician villages that ended up in Russia in 1945 and are now in Ukraine. If the surnames are not right at the top, just keep scrolling through the page until you find them. The home page at http://www.machliniec.de/ has the names of some villages. Click on all the links to explore each village site. Surnames are at: http://www.machliniec.de/eger01.htm http://www.machliniec.de/gal012.htm http://www.machliniec.de/gal013.htm http://www.machliniec.de/gal089.htm http://www.machliniec.de/Images/Droesseldorf%20Ortsplan.jpg Search all the links at the sites below: Click on the English flag for English pages. http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof_m.html http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof.html Karen

The following URL is for grave searches for World Wars I and II http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/content_suche.asp Karen

No problem here with Galicia, thanks, Laurence, and I have got that map. But there is supposedly a Galacia too. Still don't know where that is. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia Settlements > Hello Aida, > > Good map of Austro-Hungarian Empire in Hungarian language: > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nepek.gif > > > Galicia province is upper right side. > > > ______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > aida kraus wrote: >> >> Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference >> on >> any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is >> IT? >> Aida >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> >> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia >> Settlements >> >> > >> > Hello Jo, >> > >> > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is >> > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was >> > located. >> > >> > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the >> > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in >> > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts >> > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no >> > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna >> > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the >> > Austrians >> > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. >> > >> > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which >> > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans >> > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. >> > >> > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: >> > >> > >> > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html >> > >> > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize >> > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. >> > during the 14-17th C. >> > >> > _______ >> > >> > Lavrentiy Krupniak >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Jo Davis wrote: >> >> >> >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian >> >> Settlement >> >> map, >> >> Lavrentiy? >> >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> >> >> >> >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in >> >> this >> >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? >> >> How >> >> about the early 1900's? >> >> >> >> I appreciate any comments. >> >> >> >> Jo Davis > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Hello Jo, The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was located. Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. during the 14-17th C. _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak Jo Davis wrote: > > What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement map, > Lavrentiy? > << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> > > Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in this > time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How > about the early 1900's? > > I appreciate any comments. > > Jo Davis

Please enlighten me as to where Galacia is, I cannot find any reference on any website, I am always referred to Galicia, Galizien! HELP, where is IT? Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida's link to Roll Map, re Galicia Settlements > > Hello Jo, > > The Roll map has "Galacia", but there is no "Galacia," nor is > Galicia spelled "Galacia" and "Galacia" is not where Galicia was > located. > > Galicia is a former territory whose areal extent now lies in the > nation-states of Poland and Ukraine - about 3/5 of Galicia is in > west-central Ukraine (the L'viv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk oblasts > of Ukraine) and 2/5ths is in southeastern Poland. The Roll map has no > indication that there were German settlements in that area. Halychyna > (in Ukrainian) (Galicja in Polish), was called Galizien by the Austrians > who invited Germans to colonize Galicia in the late 1700s. > > A group called Galizien German Descendants has excellent maps which > show the location of former German colonies in Galicia. Germans > comprised about 2.5 percent of the population of Galicia. > > Jews comprised about 10 percent of the Galician population: > > > http://www.halgal.com/1907popbyrel.html > > Jews resided in Galicia long before Germans were invited to colonize > in the 1700s. Jews were invited in by former Polish landowners, etc. > during the 14-17th C. > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > Jo Davis wrote: >> >> What's missing or wrong with this 1700 - 1800 German-Russian Settlement >> map, >> Lavrentiy? >> << http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm >> >> >> Would you, then, know anything about 'Jewish'-German local settlers in >> this >> time frame? Were they part of this "settlement" movement back then? How >> about the early 1900's? >> >> I appreciate any comments. >> >> Jo Davis > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Your comments and e-mails are favorites of mine; many thanks for sharing! Jo Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] 1890 census records > Richard Eastmans weekly newsletter states that > some of the 1890 census records survived the fire that > destroyed most of them. > > He refers to Internet searches turning up fragments of > > "....1890 in Alabama, Georgia, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, > North Carolina, Ohio, South Dakota, Texas, and the District of Columbia > survived > and are available now. " > > When we were last in Schuylkill County PA where my husband was born, > we stopped at the local historical society and discovered that there was > a county census book for 1890. > > We found all the data we needed in that book. > > We did not ask if all counties in PA took a census that year but that > is a possibility. > > Be sure to ask at ancestral county and state historical societies if there > was any census around 1890 besides the Federal one. > > Minnesota had a state census every year ending with 5. I know there > is one for 1895. > > Many US Historical Societies have people who will do lookups for others > on request. Ask about that or look for a link at any historical society > wesbite. > > Karen

From Rootsweb Review for those who do not get it: Laclede County, Missouri Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 350, Lebanon, MO 65536 has the following books and CDs available: Marriage CD Index (1849-2004), $15; Deed Book Index Vol. I, II, III (1848-1885) $12 each; Deed Book Index Vol. IV, V, VI, VII (1886-1902), $15; Early African-American Families of Camden and Laclede Counties, $20; Probate/Will book Index (1848-1955), $10; Add $2 postage on first book and $1 per additional ones. Contact Elizabeth Davis (edavis@advertisnet.com) to order and for information about other publications available from this society. MISSOURI. Jackson County Marriage Index (from 1831); includes scanned copies of the marriage licenses. http://records.co.jackson.mo.us/search.asp?cabinet=marriage Check out: http://wc.rootsweb.com World Connect website New Genealogy Magazine https://internet-genealogy.com/IG_current.htm https://internet-genealogy.com/preview_issue.htm (download from this URL) Download the preview issue in PDF format. My system said the file could not be printed or saved so it had to be read on line or selected pages might be saved and printed with a screen capture.. Pages of most interest to this list are probably some database information on the first 5-7 pages and page 14-18.. Page 14 starts an article about the Godfrey memorial library. The next article is about general Google surname searches and how to limit the results. Karen