aida kraus wrote: > > Because German Bohemians were not Germans but Austrians. Their cultural > orientation was Vienna and certainly not BERLIN! > Aida ******** Did any Bohemian Germans move to Austria after World War I? ________ Lavrentiy .

In a message dated 3/12/2006 7:03:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, LKrupnak@erols.com writes: In the 1920s, why did some of the German Bohemians described below move to Poland (Galicia was in Poland after WWI) and not to Germany? One other thing....Galician Germans were "Austrian". Germany was "something else". Going to Galicia would represent less of a change in the eyes of other "Austrians." Karen

In a message dated 3/12/2006 8:24:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, LKrupnak@erols.com writes: I know, but my question is why didn't Bohemian Germans also move to democratic Germany after WWI if they didn't like the Czechoslovakian government (i.e. the post-World War I CZ government)? Other reasons besides what Aida mentioned. The German-Bohemians have never felt any real affinity for "Germany". One reason is that they feared the way the Prussians had attempted to protestantize the areas they ruled following establishment of the Prussian Reich 1871-1918. Their Roman Catholic religion is not just their faith but also a sort of "political statement" similar to that of the Poles during the period of Russian occupation. During the period that they were ruled by an Austrian Kaiser they enjoyed certain benefits of being German -- they were the Kaiser's political base in Bohemia. Inl 1868 after the bloody war with Prussia many began to understand tha t they could not count on the Kaiser any longer. They lost faith in his interest in their welfare after he turned them to cannon fodder on the battlefield at Königgrätz. The Czechs and Hungarians used the apparent weaknes of the Kaiser caused by the Prussian victory to begin a slow erosion of some of the German minority's social safeguards. Many saw that they were going to lose their political status and that represented some dangers to their lifestyle. The defeat also added economic burdens that were the last straw for many and that was when serious immigration to the US began. (My great grandfather was a veteran of that war, was discharged in 1867 and by 1869 he was in Minnesota.) The important thing is that the German-Bohemians felt they enjoyed the Kaiser's protection up to that time and they were proud to call themselves "Austrian." Granted, equal language rights is a concession that I believe the Kaiser should have granted back in 1830 when it first became a serious national issue. The classes at Charles Universtiy were taught in German only into the 1860s and all official documents were in German only and it is easy to see how that would be an important issue to the Czechs. Those who wanted to advance economically and socially simply had to learn German and many of them did so. The Germans felt little need to learn Czech. Under the Kaiser's rule the Czechs were forced to learn German if they wanted a good job or to go to the University. That situation eventually became the impetus for the Czech nationalism that culminated in the search for unity with the "Slavic Brotherhood" of Eastern Europe by Benesch. The Egerland is a special place. It was once a part of upper Bavaria. It came under the Bohemian crown in 1232 when the Bavarian king had to give it up because he had mortgaged it to the Bohemian king to pay for a war against the Holy Roman Emperor. When Bavaria could not repay the loan, Bohemia foreclosed and the Egerland with all its German population became Bohemian. The Germans who lived there managed to find a way to cope and make the best of their political situaltion no matter how it changed over time. That "find a way" to change things tradition was also a part of their culture and another reason that they stayed where their roots were -- they believed that eventually things would be different if they could just live and let-live.. Over the years there were Czechs who migrated into the Egerland because that was where the best jobs were located. But they were still only about a 5% minority in 1918 and there were many rural places in the Egerland where there were no Czechs at all. The Egerlander German-Bohemians along with some other "borderland" communties petitioned for a plebiscite for self determination for themselves as a 95% majority of the western part of Bohemia after WW I just as did the Slovaks). They set up an autonomous state with the name "Austrian" in it. I don't recall for sure but I seem to remember it was "Austrian Germany". They also established an interim government in hopes that the plebiscite would be approved. The Czech army moved in and forced unification with CZ with quite a bit of bloodshed. I don't recall if that was before or after the vote by the Allies on the requested plebiscites. Ultimately the Allies denied the plebiscite and included the contested areas (western Bohemia and Slovakia) in the new state of CZ. Slovakia was to be given a certain amount of autonomy but that never happened. The Czechs immediately required all village, town, city and country adminstrators to be of Czech nationality -- down to office clerks -- even in places that had no Czech population whatever. If there were one Czech child in a place all of the schools had to teach only in Czech at first. Czechs replaced Germans in governent (down to postmen and railroad workers) and managerial and other industrial jobs and Germans could not hold those postitions by law. In many instances the Germans had to train the Czechs who would replace them. In the end the new laws left only casual labor positions open for Germans and many had to seek employment in Germany and Austria in order to make a living and stay in their homes in Bohemia. Another option was to emigrate. Some Sudetens decided that they could continue to live and let-live and the best way to keep their homes and to change the system was with politics. They formed a Sudeten German political party to make sure that Germans would be represented in the Czech legislature. Many feel that they were making slow progress towards more equality economically and in education about the time that "Munich" took place. All of Europe felt that the denial of the plebiscites in 1918 was a great injustice. It was something that created a certain amount of unrest and the "Sudeten Question" was something that Hitler used to threaten the rest of Europe.. Europe wanted to fix it. The Munich conference agreed that western Bohemia sould be a "German state" and gave it to the Third Reich as of 1939. The area included partos of the Bohemian Forest alond the border with Bavaria. The denial of the plebiscite in 1918 and the on-going economic and cultural suppression of Germans (through schools and administrative proceedures) since then was one of the main reasons that the Sudetens welcomed the Third Reich as "liberators". There were 10,000 Germans who fled old Bohemia in 1938 because they disagreed with the NAZIs. Some managed to make it to Canada and Sweden with the help of the Red Cross but most of them who went to other European countries were forcibly repatriated and ended up in concentration camps. I read an article about the Sudetens from the Jeschken-Iser district who went to Canada then in a Jeschen-Iser Jarhbuch. Our Canadian members probably know of the German-Canadian settlements of 1938. Karen

aida kraus wrote: > It is recorded that Egerland and Moravian villages were already in existence > in Galicia for many years and a strong Egerland presence was there since > 1823 with their ethnic culture intact. German ethnic groups were accepted > far better in Poland than what the Egerlanders expected under the Czech > Regime in 1920. I know, but my question is why didn't Bohemian Germans also move to democratic Germany after WWI if they didn't like the Czechoslovakian government (i.e. the post-World War I CZ government)? _______

Yes, actually many did, although it was very difficult to make a living there after WW1! It was more the "other way around" in that Austrian businesses flourished in the Czech Republic. For instance Moser glass (Austrian Firm) and all Austrian Federal Offices were abolished of course, and most of the Federal employees went to Austria at that time. In my hometown Karlsbad there was a cross-traffic between Vienna and Karlsbad in the hospitality industry which also included work in Austria and Switzerland during Winter for the Summer seasonal workers at our hotels, and the Cote d'Azure, Italy and Croatia in Summer for the Winter seasonal workers. A lot of people left for America then, also. But the connection with Austria was never broken, because industry, tourism, hospitality trade was firmly in the hand of Austrians, mostly Jewish Austrians. And I think there is also a pretty sticky situation now for their property they have left in the Czech Republic! Aida -------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help > aida kraus wrote: >> >> Because German Bohemians were not Germans but Austrians. Their cultural >> orientation was Vienna and certainly not BERLIN! >> Aida > > > ******** > > > Did any Bohemian Germans move to Austria after World War I? > > > ________ > > Lavrentiy > > > . > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN >

In the 1920s, why did some of the German Bohemians described below move to Poland (Galicia was in Poland after WWI) and not to Germany? _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak aida kraus wrote: > Paula, what you are probably referring to is the settlement in Galicia by > German Bohemians in 1920 and then their return to Germany in 1940. Most of > them were resettled in Westphalia. The first move to another country was in > 1920 and was in protest because of forming a new country called > Czechoslovakia out of part of their homeland which was Austria Hungary and > thereby diminishing their German representation and rights in the newly > created Czechoslovakian Country. The demonstrators were shot because > Germans had no rights after the loss of WW1 and the newly formed Czech > Republic (and Yugoslavia for that matter) had the full support of the > Allied. There was a "rash" of emigration during that time and many left > their ancient homeland.

I noticed that even very educated people are not aware of European history and what actually happened in the so called "Sudetenland". And incidentally, "Sudetenland" is a collective name that was given to our Austrian people living in the former Czechoslovakia and stands for all German speaking people living in Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia. Below is an excerpt of our Austrian Bohemian History. I have noticed by the questions asked that this part of history is somehow bypassed by most people although Karen has clued you in time and again. Remember, that we German Bohemians are Austrians! Austrians speak German! And, in fact, WE Bohemian Germans speak Austrian and several dialects thereof! In all correctness our society based on the people who settled here in America in 1800 should actually have been called the "Austrian Bohemian Heritage Society" because that is what they were. At least it would have given us all a better location to start looking in Austria for them instead of Germany. However, lets remember that they "became" Germans (like all Austrians did) with Hitlers occupation of the land in 1938 and due to the expellation of our Sudetengerman Group to Germany in 1946. Our "German Bohemian" descendants are now German citizens, just like others of us have become Canadian, US, Brazilian, Chilean, Peruvian, etc. citizen. So read the text below, I shortened it to essentials. And please remember this in your genealogical searches and that all records were kept in German in the German areas and all records were kept in Czech in the Czech areas. Aida "The Sudeten Germans were forced in the years 1918/19 against their will to become part of the newly created Czechoslovakia. There followed a break by the new Czechoslovak regime in the promise given by the Allied that the Germans in this new Republic would have self-determination and legal rights outlined in 14 points presented by president Wilson before the Council at St. Germain. When it became clear that these 14 points were not adapted by the new Czechoslovakian Republic, German people demonstrated peacefully in all cities against this transgression of their rights and sent their representatives to Prague. On March 4, 1919, 54 Germans were shot by Czech military and several hundreds were wounded, when they demonstrated for their right of self-determination." It was then that the Sudetengerman people started to look across the border.

Because German Bohemians are Austrians, not Germans!!! Their cultural and ethnic orientation has always been Vienna, not Berlin!!!!! Aida ----------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help > aida kraus wrote: > >> It is recorded that Egerland and Moravian villages were already in >> existence >> in Galicia for many years and a strong Egerland presence was there since >> 1823 with their ethnic culture intact. German ethnic groups were >> accepted >> far better in Poland than what the Egerlanders expected under the Czech >> Regime in 1920. > > > > I know, but my question is why didn't Bohemian Germans also move to > democratic Germany after WWI if they didn't like the Czechoslovakian > government (i.e. the post-World War I CZ government)? > > > _______ > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Because German Bohemians were not Germans but Austrians. Their cultural orientation was Vienna and certainly not BERLIN! Aida ------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help > aida kraus wrote: > >> It is recorded that Egerland and Moravian villages were already in >> existence >> in Galicia for many years and a strong Egerland presence was there since >> 1823 with their ethnic culture intact. German ethnic groups were >> accepted >> far better in Poland than what the Egerlanders expected under the Czech >> Regime in 1920. > > > > I know, but my question is why didn't Bohemian Germans also move to > democratic Germany after WWI if they didn't like the Czechoslovakian > government (i.e. the post-World War I CZ government)? > > > _______ > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

It is recorded that Egerland and Moravian villages were already in existence in Galicia for many years and a strong Egerland presence was there since 1823 with their ethnic culture intact. German ethnic groups were accepted far better in Poland than what the Egerlanders expected under the Czech Regime in 1920.. The history of that particular German settlement in Galicia is recorded on the website below, to which, I believe you have made reference recently yourself... Aida See History: www.machliniec.de From: "Laurence Krupnak" <LKrupnak@erols.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Fwd: Please Help > > > > > > In the 1920s, why did some of the German Bohemians described below > move to Poland (Galicia was in Poland after WWI) and not to Germany? > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > > > > > > > > aida kraus wrote: > >> Paula, what you are probably referring to is the settlement in Galicia by >> German Bohemians in 1920 and then their return to Germany in 1940. Most >> of >> them were resettled in Westphalia. The first move to another country was >> in >> 1920 and was in protest because of forming a new country called >> Czechoslovakia out of part of their homeland which was Austria Hungary >> and >> thereby diminishing their German representation and rights in the newly >> created Czechoslovakian Country. The demonstrators were shot because >> Germans had no rights after the loss of WW1 and the newly formed Czech >> Republic (and Yugoslavia for that matter) had the full support of the >> Allied. There was a "rash" of emigration during that time and many left >> their ancient homeland. > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ >

Marasmus. From an article about an orphanage in the late 1890's to early 1900's: However, the cause of death for some was listed as "marasmus," or the wasting of an infant for no discernible cause. As an interpretive exhibit declares, today the diagnosis would likely be "failure to thrive for lack of love." And from the dictionary: A progressive wasting of the body, occurring chiefly in young children and associated with insufficient intake or malabsorption of food. [New Latin, from Greek marasmos, from marainein, to waste away]. Fred Tossick -----Original Message----- From: aida kraus [mailto:akibb1@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:25 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] marasmus The term marasmus was used for malnutrition, go to this link for particulars. Aida http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marasmus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Tauer" <jmtauer@execpc.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] marasmus > Hope someone can help me out. I recently had some research done and the > cause of death for several of my ancestors was listed as "marasmus". Does > anyone know what this is? > > Jean Tauer > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Hope someone can help me out. I recently had some research done and the cause of death for several of my ancestors was listed as "marasmus". Does anyone know what this is? Jean Tauer

Hello Jack: It is great to see you digging into this! I believe you have a copy of my research, let me know if you need more. There are too many coincidences with Wenzel/Wenzl, Maria, Peter Prokosch and others in my line, for us not to be related. Although the dates don't coincide... My Prokosch's also have ties to Drahotín/Trohatin house No. 6, Horoušany house #5, Melnice house No. 41, parish district Hora sv. Václava... Please let me know how I can help. -----Original Message----- From: jknott41@sbcglobal.net [mailto:jknott41@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:09 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Prokosch from Schillagau and Trohatin areas This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am continuing a search of my ggrandmother, Maria Prokosch, whose father was Wenzel and her mother was Catherine Prokosch. They emigrated to New Ulm, MN in 1866. Maria was born about 1844. Her parents were both born about 1816 in this area I believe. Maria came over on the MISSISSIPPI from Bremen, in July 1866. She had siblings named Peter, Anna, and Wenzel, Jr that came along. They were younger than Maria (Mary). Maria married Hubert John Knott in 1867 in New Ulm, and raised 11 children. They died in St. Joseph, IA and are buried there. I am interested in any family from these children, or the original Prokosch families in the Bischofteinitz area of Bohemia, either in the U.S. or back in the republic of Czech. I have just recently learned of Maria's parents names and her siblings. I have several people involved in assisting me in this search, in the New Ulm area, and in the St. Joseph, IA area, where they had lived last. We don't know where Wenzel and Catherine died for sure, and don't know where their other children lived and married and died. Any help from any of you, whether cousins or not, would be appreciated and enjoyed very much. Jack Knott St. Louis, MO ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="jack knott.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jack knott.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:knott;jack FN:jack knott EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mister@brick.net REV:20060311T210917Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0-- ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Hi Jean, This is a useful link to several resources of this type. http://www.coraweb.com.au/medico.htm<http://www.coraweb.com.au/medico.htm> The first choice gives information on marasmus for both children and adults. Just click the letter of the alphabet that you need--in this case, M. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Tauer<mailto:jmtauer@execpc.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] marasmus Hope someone can help me out. I recently had some research done and the cause of death for several of my ancestors was listed as "marasmus". Does anyone know what this is? Jean Tauer ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To browse the archives, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/>

In a message dated 3/11/2006 3:12:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, KarenHob@aol.com writes: You may want a record that is more than 100 years old. You may NOT want a record that is more than 100 years old.

More about restricted military records..... You may want a record that is more than 100 years old. However IF the film it is on also contains records less than 100 years old it may be restricted. Restriction does not depend on the years you want, only on the years that are included on the film you request. Karen

I finally got detailed instructions for viewing the LDS military records that may be restricted because they are less than 100 years old. The information below came from a SLC librarian. If you use any of the information to arrange for films to view in SLC be sure to have a copy of this Email with you. Also be prepared to hear whoever answers the phone have to put you on hold while they get someone who can help. One way around that is to ask whoever answers at the B1 phone line if they are THE librarian in charge of that window. If THE librarian is not available ask when they will be there so you can call back then. Restricted films do not circulate to local Family History Centers. Restricted films can only be viewed in Salt Lake City. Military Records all come from the vault and take 48 hours or more to arrive in the main library so they have to be ordered in advance. When ordering them, be sure to follow the instructions about speaking to the librarian (phone number below) or there may be a long delay getting to see them. The permission form to view restricted films is located at the library attendant’s window on B1, the international floor. The form needs to be filled out by the client and signed by one of the reference desk consultants and the client. The job of the reference desk consultant is to verify that the ancestor is a direct ancestor of the person viewing the films. (Therefore I suggest the clients have pedigree charts, etc. show the relationship to themselves). A drivers license or government issued identification card is needed to serve as collateral while the film is checked out. The form can be picked up upon arrival at the library and the client usually has the generall stored film within an hour’s time. The films that are stored in the high density area of the library, are retrieved by the attendants on the half hour, (9:30, 10:30, 11:30, etc.) A special reading room is not required for military record films. Restricted films are more difficult to retrieve from the vault, the librarian encourages any restricted vault films to be ordered well in advance in order to provide plenty of time for them to arrive. To order such a film, the direct line to the library attendant’s window on B1 is 801-240-2334. Explain that you need to order Austrian Military Records which are currently in storage at the vault and are restricted due to containing information within the last 100 years. Explain that you are aware that a special restricted viewing form needs to be filled out upon arrival at the library and the necessary procedures. Karen

The term marasmus was used for malnutrition, go to this link for particulars. Aida http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marasmus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Tauer" <jmtauer@execpc.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] marasmus > Hope someone can help me out. I recently had some research done and the > cause of death for several of my ancestors was listed as "marasmus". Does > anyone know what this is? > > Jean Tauer > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ >

In a message dated 3/11/2006 12:37:45 PM Mountain Standard Time, ltboehmke@sbcglobal.net writes: But this one family returned to Rocozin, West Prussia in 1888 because they were homesick Some time ago I found a report in the Bohemian Forest journal (Glaub und Heimat) about a family that settled in the SW part of South Dakota near Sioux Falls. After the first family member got a nice large farm going quite well his nephew came from Bohemia to joine him. The uncle divided his land and gave a farm o the nephew. After about a year the nephew was always sick and unable to do much work. The doctor finally said there was no cure for what he had -- it was homesickness for the Bohemian Forest and the only thing for him to do was to go home, which he did. He never returned. Another case I read about happened in St. George Parish near New Ulm. The report was that a farmer's wife was so homesick she packed up her several children and left her husband to return to Bohemia. I imagine there were many unreported cases that are similar. Karen

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am continuing a search of my ggrandmother, Maria Prokosch, whose father was Wenzel and her mother was Catherine Prokosch. They emigrated to New Ulm, MN in 1866. Maria was born about 1844. Her parents were both born about 1816 in this area I believe. Maria came over on the MISSISSIPPI from Bremen, in July 1866. She had siblings named Peter, Anna, and Wenzel, Jr that came along. They were younger than Maria (Mary). Maria married Hubert John Knott in 1867 in New Ulm, and raised 11 children. They died in St. Joseph, IA and are buried there. I am interested in any family from these children, or the original Prokosch families in the Bischofteinitz area of Bohemia, either in the U.S. or back in the republic of Czech. I have just recently learned of Maria's parents names and her siblings. I have several people involved in assisting me in this search, in the New Ulm area, and in the St. Joseph, IA area, where they had lived last. We don't know where Wenzel and Catherine died for sure, and don't know where their other children lived and married and died. Any help from any of you, whether cousins or not, would be appreciated and enjoyed very much. Jack Knott St. Louis, MO ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="jack knott.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jack knott.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:knott;jack FN:jack knott EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mister@brick.net REV:20060311T210917Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6451D.C49E3AB0--