In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:31:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, maryutschig@yahoo.com writes: Am looking for information on Vincenz (spelling?) LECH, born 26 Sep 1823 in Pilsen. On Vincenz' birth record, his father's name was spelled Johann LYNCH; his mother being Katharina POESL. Vincenz married Anna Utschig 9 Nov 1852 in Marienbad. Am wondering if anyone knows if they came to the U.S., possibly about 1853, when Anna's parents (Johann UTSCHIG and Elizabeth SCHICKER) came? They had two children I know of, both born in Marienbad--Johann Nepomuk Lech (chr. 12 Jan 1853) and Amalia Lech (chr. 1 Feb 1854) Mary --------------------- Mary, Have you looked at a state or federal census for 1860 to see if Anna is listed in the same house that Johann and Eliz. occupy? It should say about how long each one has been in the US and that would give you an immigration window. if they are not in the 1860 census try the 1865 state census if there was one in their then state of residence and then do the 1870 census. Repe

Would anyone like to comment on the family name DOBES, as it might be morphed into DAVIS on the long journey between the Old World & the New World in the 1880's? Would this be a likely for any German-Bohemian/Polish/ Russian/"wandering Jewish" family on its way Westward??? Any other possible names you know of that would "fit" a family in flight's name change would be appreciated also! Still hunting for a break in the original country via the arrival of our Grandfather Maurice A & wife Amelia DAVIS in late 1881 in Cleveland, OH. My "best wishes" to everybody out there searching ...and searching ... Jo DAVIS (for my husband Robert) PS: Are there any Cleveland M.A. DAVIS descendants out there??? If you are researching the family, PLEASE contact me! There was a Joseph, Yetta, Simon, Katherine, Estelle, Albert, Jeanette, Herbert and an Ethyl among their 11 children; but some of these never married... ----- Original "snippet" of Message ----- From: <proxima-shining@quick.cz> To: <BOHEMIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: [BOHEMIA] Re: Vevera Family > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lMC.2ACI/4199.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Dobsova is the female form of the surname Dobes. So the mother is Veronika > Dobsova. VeronikaŽs father would be Mr. Dobes. > > Varvazov is a small village with cca 177 inhabitants near the town Pisek. > There is a website of Varvazov - in Czech but with nice pictures: > http://mesta.obce.cz/varvazov/ > > But Josef VeveraŽs wifeŽs name is surely not Josef Cerny! ........ >

Mary, I'm afraid I can't be of much help to you. Unfortunately my names and dates don't coincide with the ones you gave me. My Klements were all born & died in what is now the Czech Republic or in Austria up until the early 1900's at which point I have birth records, but no death recods so they MAY have immigrated. To my knowledge at this point, I am the first American born. Margaret Margaret, For my Anna Catharina Clement (sic), born about 1700, I don't have any more information. I do have a Mathias Klement, of Haus #5, Klein: Gramling (possibly Gramung or Grawung--was hard to decifer). Mathius Klement married Katharina Pimpl, of Rojau. They had a daughter Franziska Klement, born about 1792, who married Franz Joseph Schicker about 1814. I don't have a place, unfortunately. Did any of your ancestors move to Minnesota? (I found an 1880 Minnesota, Nicollet, Lafayette census for a Franziska Klement, age 21, married to Wenzel Klement, both born in Bohemia.) Let me know if you want the rest of their information. Wish I had more information for you. Mary --- Margaret Dahms <madahms@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Mary, > > My 6th gr-grandfather was Adalbert Klement born > about 1730 in Jechnitz > (which is about 35 miles from Einsiedl) and married > Maria Schieferdecker > from Jechnitz. I have lot of information on his > descendants, but nothing > else on Adalbert. Let me know if you feel there may > be a possible > connection. > > Margaret > > > My 5th GR grandparents are Anton Low (umlaut over > the > "o" - my laptop won't put it in), born about 1698 > probably in Einsiedl (near Marienbad) and Anna > Catharina Clement/Klement, born about 1700, probably > in same town or nearby. They were married 5 Nov 1724 > in Einsiedl. They had 5 children. > > Anyone connected with these families? Would be > happy > to share what info I have, also. > > Thanks, > Mary > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To browse the archives, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Mr. Weber, I have a German name and have found two researchewrs to work for me in the Plsen Archives. Jjean

Dear Mary Read! I have read your note(below) since my ancestrals do come from Bohemia, I would be very interested to learn more about archives and other document strorage. I find that it is very complicated to enter a Czech source. I have been turned down by Czech researchers, whenever I use my name. They just were not able or (willing) to help. How difficultis is it to research a german name in the Pilsen archives? What is the best way to get results? Thanks O.Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Read" <maryutschig@yahoo.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Website for State Regional Archives in Pilsen > The state archives in Pilsen used to have a very good > website which told of the records they held,told you > the new restrictions for using their library, etc. I > cannot seem to find it, only one at http:// > fred2.plen-city.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. This > site isn't as informative as the one that used to be: > www.zcu.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > I also seem to remember Aida Kraus giving a website > where the lists (indexes?) of records and towns were > found. If Aida reads this, could you pass that > website address on to me? Thanks!! > > Mary Utschig Read > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Margaret, Sorry we couldn't make some connection. But I have so little information on this family, I guess it would have been hard to connect. Mary --- Margaret Dahms <madahms@hotmail.com> wrote: > Mary, > > I'm afraid I can't be of much help to you. > Unfortunately my names and dates > don't coincide with the ones you gave me. My > Klements were all born & died > in what is now the Czech Republic or in Austria up > until the early 1900's at > which point I have birth records, but no death > recods so they MAY have > immigrated. To my knowledge at this point, I am the > first American born. > > Margaret > > > > > Margaret, > For my Anna Catharina Clement (sic), born about > 1700, I don't have any more information. > > I do have a Mathias Klement, of Haus #5, Klein: > Gramling (possibly Gramung or Grawung--was hard to > decifer). Mathius Klement married Katharina Pimpl, > of > Rojau. They had a daughter Franziska Klement, born > about 1792, who married Franz Joseph Schicker about > 1814. I don't have a place, unfortunately. > > Did any of your ancestors move to Minnesota? (I > found an 1880 Minnesota, Nicollet, Lafayette census > for a Franziska Klement, age 21, married to Wenzel > Klement, both born in Bohemia.) Let me know if you > want the rest of their information. > > Wish I had more information for you. > Mary > > --- Margaret Dahms <madahms@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Mary, > > > > My 6th gr-grandfather was Adalbert Klement born > > about 1730 in Jechnitz > > (which is about 35 miles from Einsiedl) and > married > > Maria Schieferdecker > > from Jechnitz. I have lot of information on his > > descendants, but nothing > > else on Adalbert. Let me know if you feel there > may > > be a possible > > connection. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > My 5th GR grandparents are Anton Low (umlaut over > > the > > "o" - my laptop won't put it in), born about 1698 > > probably in Einsiedl (near Marienbad) and Anna > > Catharina Clement/Klement, born about 1700, > probably > > in same town or nearby. They were married 5 Nov > 1724 > > in Einsiedl. They had 5 children. > > > > Anyone connected with these families? Would be > > happy > > to share what info I have, also. > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web > Page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > > Search! > > > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted > before you joined the list? > To browse the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > >

Dear O. Weber, To find what information is found at the State Regional Archives in Pilsen, read Aida's answer on Thursday, 30 Mar 2006. She gives the website to go to: www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kreise.html Go to #1 Westbohmen, if this is the area that you are looking for; click on the city you are interested in; on this page, click on the town, again, that you are interested in; then the page shows up with the index for that town. I haven't been to the archives for 7 years, so I don't know what it's like now, but in 1993 and 1999, it was a very good experience. Karen Hobbs has used a very good researcher, so hopes she contacts you with that name and/or names. I can't remember when she suggested one to me, but I've been trying to finish up a project on my mom's side and haven't gotten to this man yet. The old website gave any restrictions for using the archives. In 1999, we could only take a pencil into the research room, amd they had lockers to put your other materials in. You had to buy a stamp at the post office to "pay" for the books you used, but you could keep these books for the whole week or longer, if they knew you still wanted to use them. don't know if it is still like that. Also, the last "old" website I could get into stated that you couldn't use digital cameras in the library. Now that is something I would love to do!! It would save so much more time. Anyway, hope I have been of some help and that you can find something that helps you at these websites. Sincerely, Mary --- WEBER <oweber@vaxxine.com> wrote: > Dear Mary Read! > I have read your note(below) since my ancestrals do > come from Bohemia, > I would be very interested to learn more about > archives and other document > strorage. I find that it is very complicated to > enter a Czech source. I have > been > turned down by Czech researchers, whenever I use my > name. > They just were not able or (willing) to help. > How difficultis is it to research a german name in > the Pilsen archives? > What is the best way to get results? > Thanks > > O.Weber > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Read" <maryutschig@yahoo.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:54 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Website for State > Regional Archives in Pilsen > > > > The state archives in Pilsen used to have a very > good > > website which told of the records they held,told > you > > the new restrictions for using their library, etc. > I > > cannot seem to find it, only one at http:// > > fred2.plen-city.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. > This > > site isn't as informative as the one that used to > be: > > www.zcu.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. > > > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > I also seem to remember Aida Kraus giving a > website > > where the lists (indexes?) of records and towns > were > > found. If Aida reads this, could you pass that > > website address on to me? Thanks!! > > > > Mary Utschig Read > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web > Page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >

I also have a German name, Naiberg aka Neuberg, and believe my great grandfather and his three brothers and a sister grew up in the Plsen area. Vaclav, Frank, Barthoney, Matej and Theresa immigrated to the United States in the 1880s. Any information regarding Plsen research would be greatly appreciated. Dennis Naiberg JEAN <JEAN74@TAMPABAY.RR.COM> wrote: Mr. Weber, I have a German name and have found two researchewrs to work for me in the Plsen Archives. Jjean ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

Margaret, For my Anna Catharina Clement (sic), born about 1700, I don't have any more information. I do have a Mathias Klement, of Haus #5, Klein: Gramling (possibly Gramung or Grawung--was hard to decifer). Mathius Klement married Katharina Pimpl, of Rojau. They had a daughter Franziska Klement, born about 1792, who married Franz Joseph Schicker about 1814. I don't have a place, unfortunately. Did any of your ancestors move to Minnesota? (I found an 1880 Minnesota, Nicollet, Lafayette census for a Franziska Klement, age 21, married to Wenzel Klement, both born in Bohemia.) Let me know if you want the rest of their information. Wish I had more information for you. Mary --- Margaret Dahms <madahms@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Mary, > > My 6th gr-grandfather was Adalbert Klement born > about 1730 in Jechnitz > (which is about 35 miles from Einsiedl) and married > Maria Schieferdecker > from Jechnitz. I have lot of information on his > descendants, but nothing > else on Adalbert. Let me know if you feel there may > be a possible > connection. > > Margaret > > > My 5th GR grandparents are Anton Low (umlaut over > the > "o" - my laptop won't put it in), born about 1698 > probably in Einsiedl (near Marienbad) and Anna > Catharina Clement/Klement, born about 1700, probably > in same town or nearby. They were married 5 Nov 1724 > in Einsiedl. They had 5 children. > > Anyone connected with these families? Would be > happy > to share what info I have, also. > > Thanks, > Mary > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > >

Thank you, Aida. Yes, I was able to get to the indexes for the different areas that are held in the Pilsen archives. There used to be a website just for the Archives in Pilsen, and you could choose English to be able to read it (for me). The website I could find tells where the archives are located, hours, but doesn't seem to be as informative as the "old" site. The "old" site seemed to be more "friendly" and not so formal. Maybe that's just my recollection from a year or two ago. But I was very happy to be able to get the indexes at the site you gave me. Thank you so much. Mary

Mary, My 6th gr-grandfather was Adalbert Klement born about 1730 in Jechnitz (which is about 35 miles from Einsiedl) and married Maria Schieferdecker from Jechnitz. I have lot of information on his descendants, but nothing else on Adalbert. Let me know if you feel there may be a possible connection. Margaret My 5th GR grandparents are Anton Low (umlaut over the "o" - my laptop won't put it in), born about 1698 probably in Einsiedl (near Marienbad) and Anna Catharina Clement/Klement, born about 1700, probably in same town or nearby. They were married 5 Nov 1724 in Einsiedl. They had 5 children. Anyone connected with these families? Would be happy to share what info I have, also. Thanks, Mary ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Mary, I am so sorry, but I am on vacation and have to access this mail via a computer at the resorts registration office. I do not have access to my files here, but google to this: German genealogy, Sudetenland, Marienbad and there you should find Archives and Libraries. I will try this here and see what I get putting in the underlined text in the search .... just for a trial.... Yes, OK I am getting this, but this site is presently under construction. I copied the entire index and have it on a disc at home. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kreise.html See if you find what you need, I will get on this computer again tomorrow night. Aida Greetings from the Oregon Pacific Coast, will be home April 4th ------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Read" <maryutschig@yahoo.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Website for State Regional Archives in Pilsen > The state archives in Pilsen used to have a very good > website which told of the records they held,told you > the new restrictions for using their library, etc. I > cannot seem to find it, only one at http:// > fred2.plen-city.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. This > site isn't as informative as the one that used to be: > www.zcu.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > I also seem to remember Aida Kraus giving a website > where the lists (indexes?) of records and towns were > found. If Aida reads this, could you pass that > website address on to me? Thanks!! > > Mary Utschig Read > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Am looking for information on Vincenz (spelling?) LECH, born 26 Sep 1823 in Pilsen. On Vincenz' birth record, his father's name was spelled Johann LYNCH; his mother being Katharina POESL. Vincenz married Anna Utschig 9 Nov 1852 in Marienbad. Am wondering if anyone knows if they came to the U.S., possibly about 1853, when Anna's parents (Johann UTSCHIG and Elizabeth SCHICKER) came? They had two children I know of, both born in Marienbad--Johann Nepomuk Lech (chr. 12 Jan 1853) and Amalia Lech (chr. 1 Feb 1854) Mary

My 5th GR grandparents are Anton Low (umlaut over the "o" - my laptop won't put it in), born about 1698 probably in Einsiedl (near Marienbad) and Anna Catharina Clement/Klement, born about 1700, probably in same town or nearby. They were married 5 Nov 1724 in Einsiedl. They had 5 children. Anyone connected with these families? Would be happy to share what info I have, also. Thanks, Mary

The state archives in Pilsen used to have a very good website which told of the records they held,told you the new restrictions for using their library, etc. I cannot seem to find it, only one at http:// fred2.plen-city.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. This site isn't as informative as the one that used to be: www.zcu.cz/plzen/org/state-archives/. Anyone have any suggestions? I also seem to remember Aida Kraus giving a website where the lists (indexes?) of records and towns were found. If Aida reads this, could you pass that website address on to me? Thanks!! Mary Utschig Read

I'm looking for anyone related to the Rahmer/Rama family from Rojau, near Marienbad. Maria Catharina RAHMER/RAMA (think RAMA is the most common spelling used) married Mathias SCHICKER 12 Oct 1784 in Rojau. Maria's parents are Joannes Georgii Rahmer/Rama and Anna Margaretha Lenz (Lentz). (Anna Margaretha was born in Kschia, also near Marienbad.) Mary Utschig Read Surnames: Utschig, Schicker, Rahma/Rama, Lenz/Lentz, among others

In a message dated 3/30/2006 9:47:49 AM Mountain Standard Time, mdb@open.org writes: Did you mean GLATZ? Oooops!! I meant Glatz! Karen

Those planning to visit CR this summer might want to read this and follow up on just where the bird flu has been found as time to travel gets closer. There may be advice about what to do in foreign countries hit by bird flu at the US Center of Disease Control (Atlanta CDC) website. The following article from the Prague Post indicates that the area just north of Budweis / Ceske Budejovice may now have the infection. Karen Bird flu arrives in Czech Republic First case found in dead swan; EU confirmation awaited By Brandon Swanson Staff Writer, The Prague Post March 29, 2006 The country is awaiting confirmation from the European Union about whether a dead swan found infected with bird flu carried the deadly strain of the virus known as H5N1. The swan was found March 20 in Hluboká nad Vltavou–Zámostí, south Bohemia, less than 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) north of České Budějovice. A week later, public health officials announced its cause of death. "We have discovered one dead swan and confirmed bird flu," Josef Duben, spokesman for the State Veterinary Administration (SVS), said March 27. "Now we have to find out whether it is the highly pathogenic type of bird flu." The virus is carried by wild birds, which spread it to poultry. H5N1 is a virulent strain that can jump to humans: It is blamed for 105 deaths worldwide, mostly among those who spend extensive periods in direct contact with poultry. Scientists are worried that it could mutate into a form contagious among humans, potentially causing a global pandemic. The EU Reference Laboratory in Weybridge, United Kingdom, is testing the Czech swan. Authorities are expecting the swan to test positive for the strain. To date, the SVS has tested more than 1,000 dead birds for the virus. The swan is the only one that has tested positive for bird flu. The Regional Veterinary Administration (KVS) is now monitoring all breeding facilities within a 10-kilometer radius of Hluboká nad Vltavou–Zámostí. If the H5N1 strain is confirmed, the KVS would quarantine all poultry within a 3-kilometer radius and maintain a wider monitoring zone, KVS spokeswoman Maria Ptáčková said. It would also issue special measures for towns in the region. If confirmed, the Czech Republic would be the 12th European country to find the H5N1 virus. The country has stocked 650,000 Tamiflu vaccines to combat the spread of H5N1 among humans, and it plans to purchase another 600,000 this year. — Petr Kašpar contributed to this report.

>The PBS list should also cover the area once known as Gratz. Did you mean GLATZ?

Hi All, I seem to have missed the Email listing ALL the ports. Could someone either forward it to me OR let me know the date to look under to find "The List". Thanks, Elaine > [Original Message] > From: <KarenHob@aol.com> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/29/2006 9:45:46 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] US Ports of immigration other than Ellis Is., Castle Ga... > > In a message dated 3/28/2006 8:28:53 PM Mountain Standard Time, > KarenHob@aol.com writes: > The PBS list is "Polish Border Surnames". It covers mostly Galicia, > Bukowinva and parts of Prussian Silesia. > > ------------------- > The PBS list should also cover the area once known as Gratz. > > > Karen > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html