I will send in private e-mail the pages for 2 more from the Mosel, that have families from Bohemia on them. They do travel together, frequently, from the same area, so it can be worthwhile to follow them, see if they turn up in the same area. Also page 1, which has the captain's name on it and all. Linda

Hah! Found 'em! I considered that there is not really the name Henry in German, so he is probably Heinrich. Here they are, I can send image to e-mail. Arriving July 6, 1878 New York on the Mosel, departure Bremen, Heinrich Wallmann 47 farmer Bohemia Barbara " 42 wife " Antonia 12 child Emma 2 child Josef 6 mon. child Josef undoubtedly died, but that only explains the missing child who died. The death rate for babies from ship was very high. Several of my families have babies who died almost right away, probably caught something icky on board. I will try to look through and see if there are any people with same surname. Trouble is, could be a married daughter on board, and I wouldn't know. So obits would definitely be in order. Also consider, the pronunciation of German "W" is V, so some American records could show up as Vollman or something like that. Linda

I looked at the Grundbuchblatter Diverse at Family Search.org and there are 4 films that have surnames beginning with Wo - Wodiczka - VAULT INTL Film [NL]2012683 Wokal - VAULT INTL Film [NL]2012684 Wolf - FHL INTL Film [NL]2012685 Wondra - FHL INTL Film [NL]2012686 Worisek - VAULT INTL Film [NL]2012687 Wotypka - VAULT INTL Film [NL]2012688 Kathy -----Original Message----- From: KarenHob@aol.com [mailto:KarenHob@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:50 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family In a message dated 4/2/2006 10:21:59 AM Mountain Standard Time, lindatherkela@msn.com writes: I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to be a way to search names from that source. You go to your local LDS Family History Center and order that film for the letter "Wo...".. When you look through the film all the surnames are very easy to read. Just make a hard copy of all the records with that name and study the details they contain later. The place of birth will be the data in the first column on the left under the name. Place, county or Herrschaft, Kreis and Land in that descending order. Karen ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

In a message dated 4/2/2006 10:21:59 AM Mountain Standard Time, lindatherkela@msn.com writes: I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to be a way to search names from that source. You go to your local LDS Family History Center and order that film for the letter "Wo...".. When you look through the film all the surnames are very easy to read. Just make a hard copy of all the records with that name and study the details they contain later. The place of birth will be the data in the first column on the left under the name. Place, county or Herrschaft, Kreis and Land in that descending order. Karen

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Okay, I started with a quick look at census, found them in both 1880 and 1900 without problem. I see Henry, Barbara, Antonia, and Emma living in White Rock Village in Huron County in 1880, ages 43, 40, 16 and 5. So Antonia is right on, but as is typical in census, ages can be off for adults. By this, Emma would not have been 5 when she immigrated if they came in 1878. The name is spelled Wollman in this census. In 1900, it is spelled Woolman, the parents live in Sherman in Huron County. In 1900 get Henry b. Oct. 1833, Barbara b. Oct. 1837, probably more accurate. Immigration 1878, and he has papers applied for. So-- there probably is Declaration of Intent to find for him. That could be useful, especially after 1900. She is mother of 6, 5 living. Okay! We have some more children to find. They are probably older than Antonia, so at the 1880 census, they were married off, or working on another farm, or something like that; or adult children may not have immigrated.! She was probably oldest child still at home. Well, I would definitely get EVERYBODY's obituaries in a local newspaper, and see the mention of other children or siblings. And looks for boys named similar spelling in county or nearby. And look through church records for Catholic churches in that county and nearby for marriages of other children. Note that in 1880 census, origin is listed as Germany and in 1900 Austria. This is very common with German-Bohemians, you see this all over (my families show Germany, Bohemia, and Austria for the very same family, too, and I do know where they're from). Bohemia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire at the time of immigration, so Austria shows up a lot. Linda

Hmm, having gone through some of those basic sources, I think there might be better ways to go about it. First, there WILL absolutely be misspellings in American records of a name like Wohlman. In fact, shouldn't it be Wohlmann in German? I would not rule out any names like Wallmann or anything like it. I could also see it be spelled Wölmann and lots of other ways. It would be better to look at first names of the family members when you have anything close. Now try going back to look at the more specific records for the county to which they immigrated. Go to rootsweb and find that county and see what is offered. Michigan has some major league databases for marriages, etc. If you can figure out which Catholic church in which the marriages of the children occurred, perhaps one of them will have the place where they were born listed. You need to look at ALL of the children's marriages and deaths, and all of the naturalization papers (hoping there are some boys). Having figured out the Catholic church, check out some of their friends, the people who were the godparents on baptisms, etc. They hang out with the home crowd usually. In fact, they frequently marry some of the home crowd. Look at local history for the church, and for the town. There may be some clues. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: PJ V<mailto:netkitty@hotmail.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Thanks Karen. I went to FamilySearch.org and typed in the name "Wohlman" and got results showing many various spellings.......none were spelled as "Wohlman" though. None of them match the ancestors I know of. In Michigan there was Wallmann, and Wollmann all from Oberuldingen or Linden. There was one Antonia Wallmann born in 1841. My great grandmother Antonia Wohlman was born in 1864. I would like to see the family trees of the Wallmann's in Michigan to see if there is a relation but they don't show that. They just show the person's name and date of birth with very little else. I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to be a way to search names from that source. I will try writing to Alfred. Thanks, Pam From: KarenHob@aol.com<mailto:KarenHob@aol.com> Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:16:51 EST >In a message dated 4/1/2006 12:25:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, >netkitty@hotmail.com writes: >I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My >Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated >abt >1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. >1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We >know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. >Census records say that Henry and >Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of >others. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. >Did you find the same number of children on all subsequent census? >Maybe some of the children died. > > > > > >I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old country >and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would >look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin >Mailing lists do not accept attachments. > >A lot of Bohemian porcelain came from the Bohemian forest area >along the border with Bavaria. > >A lot of people from that same area went to Michigan. > > > >Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came >from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said the >came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard >their >city of origin. >Look for the name Wohlman or Wohlmann in the film at the LDS >titled: Grundbuchblatter Diverse > >If Henry is in there, typically he would be in the records of men who >served beginning in 1853. He may even have been involved in >the war in Italy in 1859. > >You may find an earlier ancestor mentioned there. >If you find any Wohlmann /Wohlman copy the record and then see what the >place of birth for each is. > >Go to LDS website: FamilySearch.org >Type both spellings of Wohlman (one at a time) in the surname search box >on the home page and click search. > >Write to Alfred Piwonka and ask if the name Wohlman is found in >the villages of the Bohemian forest. >APiwonka@t-online.de > >Alfred is the coordinator for surnames in that area -- called a "Betreuer" >Introduce yourself, let him know if you can read German even if you >can't write it. Write in English but just ask simple one line >questions...no compound sentences. > > >>Is anyone else researching Wohlman? > >Do a surname search at the LDS library catalog search page to find out if >others have submitted research on the name. > >Karen > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? >To browse the archives, go to: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html>

Yes it is. My great grandmother, Emma Hurt Louthan, died in 1972 when I was 14. I never took the opportunity to ask about her family. :>( Kathy -----Original Message----- From: PJ V [mailto:netkitty@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:52 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Sue, It's very hard to piece together facts with so little to go on isn't it? I wouldn't know if your Anna Wolman was related. My great great grandparents Henry and Barbara did have a total of 6 children and we've only known of two in Michigan. We think they immigrated around 1875 - 1878 but we haven't found their records of passage either. For me it is rare to find any other spellings of the "Wohlman" name like this in Michigan. Usually this spelling shows up in New York a lot. Pam From: "Kathleen Gregory" <gregory@giantcomm.net> Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 08:53:39 -0500 >Pam, my great great grandmother, Anna Wolman (as listed in the records of >St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Farwell, Howard Co., NE) who married >Joseph >Hurt before 1877, was from Bohemia. >They had a daughter baptized 29 May 1879 who was born 24 November 1878. A >second child, a son, was born 25 Aug 1882 and baptized 26 Aug 1882. In >the >1880 census for Howard Co., NE there are no other Wolman families listed. >Joseph and Ann are living with a man named Charles Walentz or Walenty I >have >never found Anna's immigration record. She was 18 in the 1880 census. >Joseph's parents, Johan and Maria Hurt, arrived at the port of New York on >14 March 1876 aboard the ship SS Weser. Joseph is said to have arrived 3 >years earlier but I have not found him. I have also never found Anna's >immigration information. > >Kathy > >-----Original Message----- >From: PJ V [mailto:netkitty@hotmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:25 PM >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family > >Thanks Karen. > >I went to FamilySearch.org and typed in the name "Wohlman" and got results >showing many various spellings.......none were spelled as "Wohlman" though. > None of them match the ancestors I know of. In Michigan there was >Wallmann, and Wollmann all from Oberuldingen or Linden. There was one >Antonia Wallmann born in 1841. My great grandmother Antonia Wohlman was >born in 1864. I would like to see the family trees of the Wallmann's in >Michigan to see if there is a relation but they don't show that. They >just show the person's name and date of birth with very little else. > >I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this >source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to >be a way to search names from that source. > >I will try writing to Alfred. > >Thanks, Pam > > > > >From: KarenHob@aol.com >Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family >Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:16:51 EST > >In a message dated 4/1/2006 12:25:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, > >netkitty@hotmail.com writes: > >I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My > >Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated > >abt > >1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. > >1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We > >know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. > >Census records say that Henry and > >Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of > >others. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. > >Did you find the same number of children on all subsequent census? > >Maybe some of the children died. > > > > > > > > > > > >I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old >country > >and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would > >look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin > >Mailing lists do not accept attachments. > > > >A lot of Bohemian porcelain came from the Bohemian forest area > >along the border with Bavaria. > > > >A lot of people from that same area went to Michigan. > > > > > > > >Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came > >from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said >the > >came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard > >their > >city of origin. > >Look for the name Wohlman or Wohlmann in the film at the LDS > >titled: Grundbuchblatter Diverse > > > >If Henry is in there, typically he would be in the records of men who > >served beginning in 1853. He may even have been involved in > >the war in Italy in 1859. > > > >You may find an earlier ancestor mentioned there. > >If you find any Wohlmann /Wohlman copy the record and then see what the > >place of birth for each is. > > > >Go to LDS website: FamilySearch.org > >Type both spellings of Wohlman (one at a time) in the surname search box > >on the home page and click search. > > > >Write to Alfred Piwonka and ask if the name Wohlman is found in > >the villages of the Bohemian forest. > >APiwonka@t-online.de > > > >Alfred is the coordinator for surnames in that area -- called a >"Betreuer" > >Introduce yourself, let him know if you can read German even if you > >can't write it. Write in English but just ask simple one line > >questions...no compound sentences. > > > > >>Is anyone else researching Wohlman? > > > >Do a surname search at the LDS library catalog search page to find out if > >others have submitted research on the name. > > > >Karen > > > > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the >list? > >To browse the archives, go to: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > > > > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

Pam, my great great grandmother, Anna Wolman (as listed in the records of St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Farwell, Howard Co., NE) who married Joseph Hurt before 1877, was from Bohemia. They had a daughter baptized 29 May 1879 who was born 24 November 1878. A second child, a son, was born 25 Aug 1882 and baptized 26 Aug 1882. In the 1880 census for Howard Co., NE there are no other Wolman families listed. Joseph and Ann are living with a man named Charles Walentz or Walenty I have never found Anna's immigration record. She was 18 in the 1880 census. Joseph's parents, Johan and Maria Hurt, arrived at the port of New York on 14 March 1876 aboard the ship SS Weser. Joseph is said to have arrived 3 years earlier but I have not found him. I have also never found Anna's immigration information. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: PJ V [mailto:netkitty@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:25 PM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Thanks Karen. I went to FamilySearch.org and typed in the name "Wohlman" and got results showing many various spellings.......none were spelled as "Wohlman" though. None of them match the ancestors I know of. In Michigan there was Wallmann, and Wollmann all from Oberuldingen or Linden. There was one Antonia Wallmann born in 1841. My great grandmother Antonia Wohlman was born in 1864. I would like to see the family trees of the Wallmann's in Michigan to see if there is a relation but they don't show that. They just show the person's name and date of birth with very little else. I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to be a way to search names from that source. I will try writing to Alfred. Thanks, Pam From: KarenHob@aol.com Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:16:51 EST >In a message dated 4/1/2006 12:25:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, >netkitty@hotmail.com writes: >I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My >Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated >abt >1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. >1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We >know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. >Census records say that Henry and >Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of >others. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. >Did you find the same number of children on all subsequent census? >Maybe some of the children died. > > > > > >I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old country >and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would >look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin >Mailing lists do not accept attachments. > >A lot of Bohemian porcelain came from the Bohemian forest area >along the border with Bavaria. > >A lot of people from that same area went to Michigan. > > > >Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came >from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said the >came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard >their >city of origin. >Look for the name Wohlman or Wohlmann in the film at the LDS >titled: Grundbuchblatter Diverse > >If Henry is in there, typically he would be in the records of men who >served beginning in 1853. He may even have been involved in >the war in Italy in 1859. > >You may find an earlier ancestor mentioned there. >If you find any Wohlmann /Wohlman copy the record and then see what the >place of birth for each is. > >Go to LDS website: FamilySearch.org >Type both spellings of Wohlman (one at a time) in the surname search box >on the home page and click search. > >Write to Alfred Piwonka and ask if the name Wohlman is found in >the villages of the Bohemian forest. >APiwonka@t-online.de > >Alfred is the coordinator for surnames in that area -- called a "Betreuer" >Introduce yourself, let him know if you can read German even if you >can't write it. Write in English but just ask simple one line >questions...no compound sentences. > > >>Is anyone else researching Wohlman? > >Do a surname search at the LDS library catalog search page to find out if >others have submitted research on the name. > >Karen > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? >To browse the archives, go to: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html

Thanks Karen. I went to FamilySearch.org and typed in the name "Wohlman" and got results showing many various spellings.......none were spelled as "Wohlman" though. None of them match the ancestors I know of. In Michigan there was Wallmann, and Wollmann all from Oberuldingen or Linden. There was one Antonia Wallmann born in 1841. My great grandmother Antonia Wohlman was born in 1864. I would like to see the family trees of the Wallmann's in Michigan to see if there is a relation but they don't show that. They just show the person's name and date of birth with very little else. I did find Grundbuchblatter Diverse, but I don't know how to use this source. I don't speak or understand German. There doesn't seem to be a way to search names from that source. I will try writing to Alfred. Thanks, Pam From: KarenHob@aol.com Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Wohlman Family Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:16:51 EST >In a message dated 4/1/2006 12:25:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, >netkitty@hotmail.com writes: >I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My >Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated >abt >1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. >1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We >know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. >Census records say that Henry and >Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of >others. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. >Did you find the same number of children on all subsequent census? >Maybe some of the children died. > > > > > >I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old country >and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would >look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin >Mailing lists do not accept attachments. > >A lot of Bohemian porcelain came from the Bohemian forest area >along the border with Bavaria. > >A lot of people from that same area went to Michigan. > > > >Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came >from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said the >came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard >their >city of origin. >Look for the name Wohlman or Wohlmann in the film at the LDS >titled: Grundbuchblatter Diverse > >If Henry is in there, typically he would be in the records of men who >served beginning in 1853. He may even have been involved in >the war in Italy in 1859. > >You may find an earlier ancestor mentioned there. >If you find any Wohlmann /Wohlman copy the record and then see what the >place of birth for each is. > >Go to LDS website: FamilySearch.org >Type both spellings of Wohlman (one at a time) in the surname search box >on the home page and click search. > >Write to Alfred Piwonka and ask if the name Wohlman is found in >the villages of the Bohemian forest. >APiwonka@t-online.de > >Alfred is the coordinator for surnames in that area -- called a "Betreuer" >Introduce yourself, let him know if you can read German even if you >can't write it. Write in English but just ask simple one line >questions...no compound sentences. > > >>Is anyone else researching Wohlman? > >Do a surname search at the LDS library catalog search page to find out if >others have submitted research on the name. > >Karen > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? >To browse the archives, go to: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ >

Greetings: My ancestor, Simon Moriz and his family left Susice(Schtenhofen) and came to Hessen in 1650. I have his marriage record in the Hessen church. Can anyone tell me what route they and the others who came with them would have taken from Bohemia to their new home? Thanks for any help. Fred B. Moretz

I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated abt 1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. 1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. Census records say that Henry and Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of otherd. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old country and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said the came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard their city of origin. Is anyone else researching Wohlman?

In a message dated 4/1/2006 12:25:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, netkitty@hotmail.com writes: I am searching for information on the Wohlman family from Bohemia. My Great Grand Mother was Antonia Wohlman (b.1864 - d. 1941) who immigrated abt 1878 with her parents Henry Wohlman (b. 1833) and Barbara (b. 1837)to Sherman, Michigan (Harbor Beach). We know that her little sister Emma was 5 at the time when they immigrated. Census records say that Henry and Barbara had a total of 5 children but we have never heard mention of others. Antonia married Henry Klug. Emma married William Pipper. Did you find the same number of children on all subsequent census? Maybe some of the children died. I have a porcelain figurine that she brought with her from the old country and I wonder if I could post a picture of it here? I wonder if it would look familiar to anyone as far as location of origin Mailing lists do not accept attachments. A lot of Bohemian porcelain came from the Bohemian forest area along the border with Bavaria. A lot of people from that same area went to Michigan. Unfortunately I don't know what city my Wohlman ancestors came from. They spoke German. In census records they at one time said the came from Bohemia, then another time Austria. I have never heard their city of origin. Look for the name Wohlman or Wohlmann in the film at the LDS titled: Grundbuchblatter Diverse If Henry is in there, typically he would be in the records of men who served beginning in 1853. He may even have been involved in the war in Italy in 1859. You may find an earlier ancestor mentioned there. If you find any Wohlmann /Wohlman copy the record and then see what the place of birth for each is. Go to LDS website: FamilySearch.org Type both spellings of Wohlman (one at a time) in the surname search box on the home page and click search. Write to Alfred Piwonka and ask if the name Wohlman is found in the villages of the Bohemian forest. APiwonka@t-online.de Alfred is the coordinator for surnames in that area -- called a "Betreuer" Introduce yourself, let him know if you can read German even if you can't write it. Write in English but just ask simple one line questions...no compound sentences. >>Is anyone else researching Wohlman? Do a surname search at the LDS library catalog search page to find out if others have submitted research on the name. Karen

In a message dated 3/30/2006 6:00:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, maryutschig@yahoo.com writes: I'm looking for anyone related to the Rahmer/Rama family from Rojau, near Marienbad. Maria Catharina RAHMER/RAMA (think RAMA is the most common spelling used) married Mathias SCHICKER 12 Oct 1784 in Rojau. Maria's parents are Joannes Georgii Rahmer/Rama and Anna Margaretha Lenz (Lentz). (Anna Margaretha was born in Kschia, also near Marienbad.) ____________________ Mary, Check if the church records are available at the VSFF / Genealogienetz.de websites -- URLs given on the list during the last week. Karen

on 3/31/06 9:43 PM, Judith Schweitzer at junan37@hotmail.com wrote: > As I am new to this mailing list, where might I now go to find any > information that would help in my research. Clement was born about 1846 and > Frances Gruber in 1850. Clements parents were Alois and Anna Maria (Bauer) > Thank you > > From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> > Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Kachlmeier family > Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:19:10 -0600 > > on 3/31/06 9:07 PM, Judith Schweitzer at junan37@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Would anyone know if the name Kachlmeier is from the Vollman, Bohemia > area. >> My great gr-gr grandparents are said to have been from there. They also >> refer to their home as Austria in later census. I am looking for Clement > and >> Frances (Gruber) Kachlmeier. The settled in Milwaukee in the late 1800's. >> The variations on their name also include Kachlmeyer. >> >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >> Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html >> > Yes, Judith the Kachlmeier name is found in Vollmau, Bohemia which is on the > Bavaria-Bohemia border at Futh im Wald. > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > Judith, Just use the Google search tool at the bottom of the GBHS page and enter Vollmau. You will find several references. The name Kachelmeier has also been entered in the Surname Database by submitter 161. You can learn the name and address of this submitter.

In a message dated 3/31/2006 8:09:18 PM Mountain Standard Time, junan37@hotmail.com writes: Would anyone know if the name Kachlmeier is from the Vollman, Bohemia area. ----------------------- Could that possibly be Vollmau? Parish records listing is at: http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kb/obervollmau.html You would have to get a researcher to get the records from 'the Pilsen archive for you. German Bohemians were citizens of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and many called themselves Austrian. Go to the LDS : familysearch.org On the home page type: kachlmeier in the surname search space and click on search. There are a lot of interesting hits. Do a second search with Kachlmeyer. There were some changes in the border between Bavaria (now Germany) and Bohemia off and on during the 18th century. Places that are now in CR could have once been in Bavaria if they are as close to the border as Vollmau is. http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/whitebook/desg75 .html Neither Vollman or Vollmau comes up on the shtetlseeker search. The March 1999 issue of the GBHS newsletter (Heimatbrief) may be at the GBHS website, It contains a history of Vollmau. Search the web with Vollmau and Vollman and Kachlmeier and Kachlmeyer. Karen

on 3/31/06 9:07 PM, Judith Schweitzer at junan37@hotmail.com wrote: > Would anyone know if the name Kachlmeier is from the Vollman, Bohemia area. > My great gr-gr grandparents are said to have been from there. They also > refer to their home as Austria in later census. I am looking for Clement and > Frances (Gruber) Kachlmeier. The settled in Milwaukee in the late 1800's. > The variations on their name also include Kachlmeyer. > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > Yes, Judith the Kachlmeier name is found in Vollmau, Bohemia which is on the Bavaria-Bohemia border at Futh im Wald.

As I am new to this mailing list, where might I now go to find any information that would help in my research. Clement was born about 1846 and Frances Gruber in 1850. Clements parents were Alois and Anna Maria (Bauer) Thank you From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> Reply-To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Kachlmeier family Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:19:10 -0600 on 3/31/06 9:07 PM, Judith Schweitzer at junan37@hotmail.com wrote: > Would anyone know if the name Kachlmeier is from the Vollman, Bohemia area. > My great gr-gr grandparents are said to have been from there. They also > refer to their home as Austria in later census. I am looking for Clement and > Frances (Gruber) Kachlmeier. The settled in Milwaukee in the late 1800's. > The variations on their name also include Kachlmeyer. > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/mailinglist/mailinglist.html > Yes, Judith the Kachlmeier name is found in Vollmau, Bohemia which is on the Bavaria-Bohemia border at Futh im Wald. ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/

Would anyone know if the name Kachlmeier is from the Vollman, Bohemia area. My great gr-gr grandparents are said to have been from there. They also refer to their home as Austria in later census. I am looking for Clement and Frances (Gruber) Kachlmeier. The settled in Milwaukee in the late 1800's. The variations on their name also include Kachlmeyer.

In a message dated 3/31/2006 10:41:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, scenmkr106@wowway.com writes: Would this be a likely for any German-Bohemian/Polish/ Russian/"wandering Jewish" family on its way Westward??? Try the name in the surname database at the Jewish Genealogy website. Karen