----- Original Message ----- From: "Aida Kraus" <akibb1@verizon.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Dropped? > I am sure you are not, because I did not get any mail either, people must be busy in their gardens, and enjoying the out of doors. > Aida > > > >From: Douglas Moon <moon@inreach.com> > >Date: Fri Apr 28 08:49:32 CDT 2006 > >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Dropped? > > >It's been some time now since I got any list e-mail. Have I been dropped? > > > >Thank you. > > > >Douglas Moon > > > > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To search the archives, go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To browse the archives, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L/ > > >

I am sure you are not, because I did not get any mail either, people must be busy in their gardens, and enjoying the out of doors. Aida >From: Douglas Moon <moon@inreach.com> >Date: Fri Apr 28 08:49:32 CDT 2006 >To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Dropped? >It's been some time now since I got any list e-mail. Have I been dropped? > >Thank you. > >Douglas Moon > > >==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the list? To search the archives, go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN

It's been some time now since I got any list e-mail. Have I been dropped? Thank you. Douglas Moon

Interesting list of books and database CDs about Germans from Germany and from Eastern Europe. http://www.genealogical.com/countries/Germany.html The same website has pages about publishing your family history: http://www.gatewaypress.com/ There is a free guide for authors at: http://www.gatewaypress.com/publish_books/publish_memoirs_poetry_books.html Karen

In a message dated 4/20/2006 5:09:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, Hushala6@wmconnect.com writes: she was an Austrian born under the Austrian Empire yet she and her whole family before her were German. Gloria Austria is also an ethnic German nation. One of the problems that genealogists have is that so many of the US census takers and clerks in court houses who handled naturalization papers did not know that it was different from Prussia. The result is that just because someone spoke German the censustaker often wrote that they were from Germany on the census forms. Likewise many Austrian immigrants who were illiterate have naturalization papers that say they gave up their allegiance to the king of Prussia!! Genealogists who have used naturalization papers as a starting point may find that they have been looking in the wrong land. I know that the first census on which my great grandparents are listed says they are from Bohemia. I wonder how many statisticians looked at that as their country or origin and did not bother to look at the fact that they spoke German --- so they were not counted as ethnic Germans. Karen

Hi all, I'm Brazilian and I'm started to looking for relatives DRIMEL, so using google I found on this link http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/database/databaseag.html Franz Drimel borned in 1830 on Neu Waldek (Nový Valdek in czech), Zwittau... Nowadays Zwittau is Svytavy and Nový Valdek is a independent village 7km far from Svitavy. Could someone help me ? Thanks! Franz Drimel can be my grandgrandgrandfather so I have to find some documents. Best Regards.

I have also concluded that Andreas Werner is listed as Henry Werner in the 1880 census for Buchanan township, his wife listed as Mary born in Germany (Prussia). Michael O'Hearn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Karen, Before so many Portorican and other people of Spanish heritage came to America not so long ago, I believe it was in the 1960's, the Germans were the largest ethnic group in America. My Mother was born in what is today the Czech Republic and she was an Austrian born under the Austrian Empire yet she and her whole family before her were German. Gloria

Aida, The MaxKade Institute is asking for feedback. Why don't you send the letter below to them? Karen In a message dated 4/19/2006 9:57:20 AM Mountain Standard Time, akibb1@verizon.net writes: My opinion is that the percentage of Germans in America is even greater than the given percentage here, because they classify - to this day - immigrants' by origin of their country. I am sure that Austrian-Hungarians were not counted as "Germans." The defining "German" label is strictly for people born within Germany itself. Bohemians immigrating after 1919 are counted as Czechs (like 3 German people of our family). Purely German relatives of mine (who attended German schools in their country of origin and whose home language and culture was German) arrived in America as "Hungarians", etc. and counted as such. There is a huge group of "Ukrainians," Yugoslavians", "Slovaks", "Poles" and "Russians".... who, had they been able to sign in with their ethnicity, in other words the language they spoke at home and the culture they followed, we would see that the percentage given here would be much larger. We can see it in our own genealogical research that we find our German ancestors in "other countries" besides Germany. When they arrived on these shores, they were not counted as Germans but as citizens of a "politically bordered" country (which was in fact their home of origin) rather than by their actual ethnicity. Aida

The message below directs readers to a website. I used AOL to search and came up with an error message. Then I searched with Google and found the website. The site is worth a visit for anyone with interest in German Americans or German settlers of Wisconsin. Karen Cross posted from the GACGS list: -- (German American and German Canadian Scholars) In a message dated 4/18/2006 11:38:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, jsalmons@WISC.EDU writes: From: Antje Petty <apetty@wisc.edu> Max Kade Institute for German- American Studies, University of Wisconsin – Madison Date: April 17, 2006 11:36:12 AM CDT How German is American? A New Outreach and Educational Project According to the U.S. Census conducted in 2000, 42.8 million Americans identified themselves as being of German ancestry, representing 15.2% of the total U.S. population. That is more than the next largest group, Irish Americans (10.8%), or any other group. At the same time, there is little evidence of a distinct German- American subculture in America today. How to explain this conundrum? Has German-American identity been submerged over the last century? Have German-Americans, consciously or not, come to identify themselves according to new categories that cut across ethnic lines? Or can influences deriving from German-speaking immigrants actually still be seen flowing in the mainstream and tributaries of American culture? By asking the question How German is American? the Max Kade Institute hopes to engage its audience in examining the various ways, past and present, that German-speaking immigrants to the United States and their descendants have contributed to and been influenced by the American cultures. The project consists of a poster, companion booklet, and Web page. Featured on the poster are twenty historic and contemporary images that reflect major themes of German-American-German cultural exchange. The timelessness of these themes is underscored by the poster layout based on principles of the Bauhaus school of design, which was influential both in Europe and in this country. Images range from an eighteenth century oil-painting depicting Moravian missionary David Zeisberger preaching to Native Americans and a 1898 map showing the distribution of European-born German speakers in the U.S., to a photo of the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile and a Zits cartoon prominently featuring the word “über” in this century. Together the images portray how influences from German-speaking immigrants endure in the United States often in almost invisible ways. While short captions identify the pictures on the back of the poster, the more comprehensive 48-page companion booklet puts them into a broader thematic context in four sections: Settling in America, Building Communities, Growing into the Nation, and Shaping Culture. Here the images are touchstones for a broader discussion of continuous transatlantic ties and even though they derive from a specifically German-American context, the issues they raise in this country apply across cultural lines. Poster and booklet are downloadable on the MKI Web site: http:// mki.wisc.edu which represents another important branch of this project. While poster and booklet represent finished products, the How German is America? Web site will continue to evolve. In the coming months we will post additional materials, a German translation of the booklet, and lesson plan ideas for teachers on the site. We also very much welcome your feedback. We do not expect a definitive response to the question How German is American?, but we hope that viewers and readers will be informed and inspired to think about “Germanness” and “Americanness” in new ways. Your insights and comments will be an important part of the evolution of this project. If you would like to have a free poster or booklet mailed to you, please contact Kevin Kurdylo, kkurdylo@wisc.edu or 608-262-7546. Shipping and handling charges will apply.

My opinion is that the percentage of Germans in America is even greater than the given percentage here, because they classify - to this day - immigrants' by origin of their country. I am sure that Austrian-Hungarians were not counted as "Germans." The defining "German" label is strictly for people born within Germany itself. Bohemians immigrating after 1919 are counted as Czechs (like 3 German people of our family). Purely German relatives of mine (who attended German schools in their country of origin and whose home language and culture was German) arrived in America as "Hungarians", etc. and counted as such. There is a huge group of "Ukrainians," Yugoslavians", "Slovaks", "Poles" and "Russians".... who, had they been able to sign in with their ethnicity, in other words the language they spoke at home and the culture they followed, we would see that the percentage given here would be much larger. We can see it in our own genealogical research that we find our German ancestors in "other countries" besides Germany. When they arrived on these shores, they were not counted as Germans but as citizens of a "politically bordered" country (which was in fact their home of origin) rather than by their actual ethnicity. Aida ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarenHob@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] How German is American? > The message below directs readers to a website. I used AOL to search > and > came up with an error message. Then I searched with Google and found the > website. The site is worth a visit for anyone with interest in German > Americans > or German settlers of Wisconsin. > > Karen > > Cross posted from the GACGS list: -- (German American and German Canadian > Scholars) > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 11:38:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, > jsalmons@WISC.EDU writes: > From: Antje Petty <apetty@wisc.edu> Max Kade Institute for German- > American Studies, University of Wisconsin – Madison > Date: April 17, 2006 11:36:12 AM CDT > How German is American? A New Outreach and Educational Project > > According to the U.S. Census conducted in 2000, 42.8 million > Americans identified themselves as being of German ancestry, > representing 15.2% of the total U.S. population. That is more than > the next largest group, Irish Americans (10.8%), or any other group. > At the same time, there is little evidence of a distinct German- > American subculture in America today. How to explain this > conundrum? Has German-American identity been submerged over the last > century? Have German-Americans, consciously or not, come to identify > themselves > according to new categories that cut across ethnic lines? > > > Or can influences deriving from German-speaking immigrants actually still > be > seen flowing in the mainstream and tributaries of American culture? By > asking the question How German is American? the Max Kade Institute hopes > to > engage its audience in examining the various ways, past and present, that > German-speaking immigrants to the United States and their descendants > have > contributed to and been influenced by the American cultures. > > > The project consists of a poster, companion booklet, and Web page. > Featured on the poster are twenty historic and contemporary images > that reflect major themes of German-American-German cultural > exchange. The timelessness of these themes is underscored by the > poster layout based on principles of the Bauhaus school of design, > which was influential both in Europe and in this country. Images > range from an eighteenth century oil-painting depicting Moravian > missionary David Zeisberger preaching to Native Americans and a 1898 map > showing the distribution of European-born German speakers in the U.S., to > a > photo of the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile and a Zits cartoon prominently > featuring > the word “über” in this century. Together the images portray how > influences > from German-speaking immigrants endure in the United States often in > almost > invisible ways. > > While short captions identify the pictures on the back of the poster, > the more comprehensive 48-page companion booklet puts them into a broader > thematic context in four sections: Settling in America, > Building Communities, Growing into the Nation, and Shaping Culture. Here > the images are touchstones for a broader discussion of continuous > transatlantic > ties and even though they derive from a > specifically German-American context, the issues they raise in this > country apply across cultural lines. > > Poster and booklet are downloadable on the MKI Web site: > http:// mki.wisc.edu > > which represents another important branch of this > project. While poster and booklet represent finished products, the > How German is America? Web site will continue to evolve. In the > coming months we will post additional materials, a German translation of > the > booklet, and lesson plan ideas for teachers on the site. We also very > much > welcome your feedback. We do not expect a definitive response to the > question How German is American?, but we hope that viewers and readers > will be > informed and inspired to think about “Germanness” and “Americanness” in > new > ways. Your insights and comments will be an important part of the > evolution of > this project. > > If you would like to have a free poster or booklet mailed to you, > please contact Kevin Kurdylo, kkurdylo@wisc.edu or 608-262-7546. > Shipping and handling charges will apply. > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/local/states/ohio/counties/summit_c ounty/14359869.htm German genealogy is topic of seminar CLEVELAND - The Western Reserve Historical Society will present a German genealogical seminar from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. May 2 at the society on East Boulevard in Cleveland. The seminar will be hosted by John T. Humphrey, president of the Mid-Atlantic Germanic Society and vice president of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania. The seminar will cover researching German ancestors, finding a German ancestor's place of origin and using church records to build a family tree. Cost is $30 for society members and $35 for non-members. There is a $5 late fee for reservations at the door or those received after April 28. For more information, contact Brent Morgan at 216-382-7297 or registrar Nancy Leinweber at 440-205-1942.

I have a copy of Anton's marriage certificate and have decided that the birthplace listed there is Iglau in Moravia, although the name was a phonetic approximation spelled "Ignola" (not Agnola in northen Italy). Michael O'Hearn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, My THANKS to ALL who wrote regarding research in the Pilsen Archives. You gave me some great leads. Now I just have to decide on exactly what I want to learn and how I want to proceed. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <hwhitemc@msn.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > > Susan, > Have you checked out www.BukovinasocietyofAmerica.org ? Every name you > mentioned except BREDL, appears in their database. The only problem might > be that you must be a member to access their database. > A membership is $15.00 a year. If you go to that website all the > instructions are there. > The reason I suggest this site is because parts of so many German families > from Bohemia and Moravia emmigrated to the East from 1790 on. > Good Luck > Helen > > > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt > Eisenstein, Bohemia > > >> May be a long shot but there were/are Aschenbrenners in the Dysart, Iowa >> area. That would be in Tama or Benton Counties. >> >> The 1961 Dysart, Iowa telephone directory shows: >> Karl Aschenbrenner with an RFD address >> Mrs Rose Aschenbrenner at 506 Jefferson, Dysart address >> >> Rose, living in town would be Tama county. Karl, with an RFD address >> could >> have been in Tama or Benton Counties as Dysart sits on the county line. >> >> Hope this helps but as I said, might be a long shot. >> >> Bill Houdek >> bhoudek@swbell.net > >> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:28 PM >> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, >> Bohemia >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > >> > >> > I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George >> > Aschenbrenner >> > (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 and 1855 >> > respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the Bavarian-Bohemian >> > border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. George and >> > Monika >> > first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in Stetsonville, WI. >> > George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June 11, 1802 in >> > Markt >> > Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in Markt Eisenstein). >> > Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, 1808 in Markt >> > Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in Panzer, nr. >> > Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family members may have >> > immigrated as well, although I have found no confirmation to date. I >> > am >> > sure that the records listing the children of Andreas and Katharina >> > Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska Bredl, are in the >> > Pilsen >> > Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these records are difficult! >> > and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The >> > parish >> > records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS >> > Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! >> > >> > >> > >> > Susan > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > >

Hi, Charlie Thanks for the information. I know that Aschenbrenners and Bredls emigrated from Markt Eisenstein to Wood, Marathon and Price counties in Wisconsin in the 1880s through the 1890s. I have just never found the connection to our family (a common ancestor). I am hoping that learning the names of the siblings of my immigrant ancestors will help solve that problem. Also, "my" Monika and George Aschenbrenner immigrated with two young children in 1877, several years at least before other Aschenbrenners arrived in Wisconsin. Were they the "pioneer immigrants" in this chain migration from Markt Eisenstein? I would imagine that they would have come with other family. I still think there may well be a connection to the August and Franceska Bredl living next door in the 1880 census for Hamburg, Marathon County, WI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Gust" <gustmc@coredcs.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > Folks: > > I venture to say many of your ancestors are involved in the following > areas in Wood County, Wisconsin. All Parishes are located along U.S. > Hiway 10. > > St. Mary's , Auburndale, Wi > St. Michael's, Hewitt, WI > St. Killian's, Blenker, WI > St. Wenceslaus, Milladore, WI > And Parishes in Marshfield, WI > > A former Pastor was born in Markt Eisentein--Fr. Joesph > Steinhauser--Pastor in 1940's/50's at Auburndale. > > Good Luck!! > > Charlie Gust > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry and Susan" <tmcnelley@comcast.net> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:28 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, > Bohemia > > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George >> Aschenbrenner (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 >> and 1855 respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the >> Bavarian-Bohemian border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. >> George and Monika first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in >> Stetsonville, WI. George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June >> 11, 1802 in Markt Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in >> Markt Eisenstein). Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, >> 1808 in Markt Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in >> Panzer, nr. Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family >> members may have immigrated as well, although I have found no >> confirmation to date. I am sure that the records listing the children of >> Andreas and Katharina Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska >> Bredl, are in the Pilsen Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these >> records are difficult! >> and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish >> records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS >> Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! >> >> >> >> Susan >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> >> >> > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >

Folks: I venture to say many of your ancestors are involved in the following areas in Wood County, Wisconsin. All Parishes are located along U.S. Hiway 10. St. Mary's , Auburndale, Wi St. Michael's, Hewitt, WI St. Killian's, Blenker, WI St. Wenceslaus, Milladore, WI And Parishes in Marshfield, WI A former Pastor was born in Markt Eisentein--Fr. Joesph Steinhauser--Pastor in 1940's/50's at Auburndale. Good Luck!! Charlie Gust ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry and Susan" <tmcnelley@comcast.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > Hello, > > > > I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George Aschenbrenner > (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 and 1855 > respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the Bavarian-Bohemian > border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. George and Monika > first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in Stetsonville, WI. > George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June 11, 1802 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in Markt Eisenstein). > Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, 1808 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in Panzer, nr. > Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family members may have > immigrated as well, although I have found no confirmation to date. I am > sure that the records listing the children of Andreas and Katharina > Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska Bredl, are in the Pilsen > Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these records are difficult! > and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish > records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS > Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! > > > > Susan > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > >

Susan, Have you checked out www.BukovinasocietyofAmerica.org ? Every name you mentioned except BREDL, appears in their database. The only problem might be that you must be a member to access their database. A membership is $15.00 a year. If you go to that website all the instructions are there. The reason I suggest this site is because parts of so many German families from Bohemia and Moravia emmigrated to the East from 1790 on. Good Luck Helen Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > May be a long shot but there were/are Aschenbrenners in the Dysart, Iowa > area. That would be in Tama or Benton Counties. > > The 1961 Dysart, Iowa telephone directory shows: > Karl Aschenbrenner with an RFD address > Mrs Rose Aschenbrenner at 506 Jefferson, Dysart address > > Rose, living in town would be Tama county. Karl, with an RFD address could > have been in Tama or Benton Counties as Dysart sits on the county line. > > Hope this helps but as I said, might be a long shot. > > Bill Houdek > bhoudek@swbell.net > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:28 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, > Bohemia > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George Aschenbrenner > > (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 and 1855 > > respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the Bavarian-Bohemian > > border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. George and Monika > > first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in Stetsonville, WI. > > George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June 11, 1802 in Markt > > Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in Markt Eisenstein). > > Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, 1808 in Markt > > Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in Panzer, nr. > > Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family members may have > > immigrated as well, although I have found no confirmation to date. I am > > sure that the records listing the children of Andreas and Katharina > > Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska Bredl, are in the Pilsen > > Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these records are difficult! > > and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish > > records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS > > Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! > > > > > > > > Susan

May be a long shot but there were/are Aschenbrenners in the Dysart, Iowa area. That would be in Tama or Benton Counties. The 1961 Dysart, Iowa telephone directory shows: Karl Aschenbrenner with an RFD address Mrs Rose Aschenbrenner at 506 Jefferson, Dysart address Rose, living in town would be Tama county. Karl, with an RFD address could have been in Tama or Benton Counties as Dysart sits on the county line. Hope this helps but as I said, might be a long shot. Bill Houdek bhoudek@swbell.net Ballwin, MO USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry and Susan" <tmcnelley@comcast.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > Hello, > > > > I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George Aschenbrenner > (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 and 1855 > respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the Bavarian-Bohemian > border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. George and Monika > first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in Stetsonville, WI. > George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June 11, 1802 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in Markt Eisenstein). > Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, 1808 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in Panzer, nr. > Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family members may have > immigrated as well, although I have found no confirmation to date. I am > sure that the records listing the children of Andreas and Katharina > Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska Bredl, are in the Pilsen > Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these records are difficult! > and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish > records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS > Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! > > > > Susan > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >

Thanks for your response. Actually, I have researched the Markt Eisenstein parish records on microfische. Even though they are in German, they are pretty easy to figure out. I was able to trace our ancestry back to 1700, with the information on these records. The problem is that the records of births and marriages occuring AFTER 1808 are only available in Pilsen, Czech Republic. I understand from others that access to these archives is limited. I am in California. What is the best way to request information from the State Archives in Pilsen? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "ditto" <ditto@tctc.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > Terry and Susan: I think you have to determine what is expensive. You can > fool around trying to discern microfilmed records in a foreign language, > or pay a modest fee and have a professional on site do it, and maybe even > offer you more. You seem to have good origin orientation, so the results > could progress rapidly. > > Frank Slocum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry and Susan" <tmcnelley@comcast.net> > To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:28 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, > Bohemia > > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George >> Aschenbrenner (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 >> and 1855 respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the >> Bavarian-Bohemian border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. >> George and Monika first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in >> Stetsonville, WI. George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June >> 11, 1802 in Markt Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in >> Markt Eisenstein). Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, >> 1808 in Markt Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in >> Panzer, nr. Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family >> members may have immigrated as well, although I have found no >> confirmation to date. I am sure that the records listing the children of >> Andreas and Katharina Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska >> Bredl, are in the Pilsen Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these >> records are difficult! >> and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish >> records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS >> Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! >> >> >> >> Susan >> >> >> ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== >> Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> >> > > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Would you like to see messages that were posted before you joined the > list? To search the archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GERMAN-BOHEMIAN > >

Terry and Susan: I think you have to determine what is expensive. You can fool around trying to discern microfilmed records in a foreign language, or pay a modest fee and have a professional on site do it, and maybe even offer you more. You seem to have good origin orientation, so the results could progress rapidly. Frank Slocum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry and Susan" <tmcnelley@comcast.net> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:28 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aschenbrenners and Bredls in Markt Eisenstein, Bohemia > Hello, > > > > I am searching for siblings of my great-grandparents, George Aschenbrenner > (b 1850) and Monika Bredl (Bradle) who were born in 1850 and 1855 > respectively in Markt Eisenstein in Bohemia, on the Bavarian-Bohemian > border. They immigrated to the United States in 1877. George and Monika > first settled in Hamburg, Wisconsin and later in Stetsonville, WI. > George's parents were Andreas Aschenbrenner (born June 11, 1802 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Katharina Artmann (born abt 1808 in Markt Eisenstein). > Monika's parents were Michael Bredl (born July 19, 1808 in Markt > Eisenstein) and Franziska Rohrbacher (born April 8, 1817 in Panzer, nr. > Markt Eisenstein). I suspect siblings or other family members may have > immigrated as well, although I have found no confirmation to date. I am > sure that the records listing the children of Andreas and Katharina > Aschenbrenner, as well as Michael and Franziska Bredl, are in the Pilsen > Archives in the Czech Republic. However, these records are difficult! > and expensive to come by. Does anyone have this information? The parish > records for Markt Eisenstein, available on microfische through the LDS > Family History Center, only go up to 1808. Thanks for any assistance! > > > > Susan > > > ==== GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >