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    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Erbrichterei
    2. Carol, Aida will probably have a better answer but when I take that word apart "Erb" has to do with inheritance as in inherited property. Richter is a judge and Richterei would typically refer to where a local judge (Justice of the Peace) would have his residence or his office. I would suggest that the family was in line to inherit a property owned by some relative who had been a local judge and who may have used his residential property or that property / building as his Justice of the Peace courtroom. When the letter was written in 1948 it seems it referred to something the family faced during the months before the expulsion and they had been reluctant to do anything about it -- which I would interpret to start the legal proceedings to take over all or part ownership in an inherited property. It may have been a farm with land or it may have been a building in a village. I use Justice of the Peace here because a Richter was not the same as a judge in what we know as a court of justice where there would be hearings and trials associated with more serious domestic, legal, or criminal matter. A Richter would make a decision right away on the guilt or innocence of a person accused of a minor crime like brawling or speeding or vandalism. He could assess a fine or time in jail depending on the circumstances just like a Justice of the Peace does in the US. Erb Richter sounds like the title and work of a of Richter was inherited by a certain family for a number of generations. Back in the late 18th and early 19th Centuries my own ancestors were Richters for several generations after which the last to live in the same Herrschaft (noble dominion) was "promoted" to Ortsamtmann -- the overseer of the local noble landlord's business. There may have been a new Richter appointed for that village after that happened or perhaps he continued to act as Richter as well as Ortsamtmann. A GB friend has explained to me that the Richter often acted as a go-between for villagers who wanted to petition the noble landlord or as a judge for minor matters of law and order or property or other aspects of village life. He was usually literate -- something not often found in a peasant village before the 1880s because not every farmer was willing to send his son(s) to school when he needed help on the farm or in a family trade. In my own ancestral village in the Egerland there was no school until after 1860. My ancestors went to the RCatholic school in Kscheutz / Ksice that was about 3-4 Km away from their home Hof. That would have been about a 20-30 minute walk each way. Many schoolchildren (mostly boys) had much farther to go if they wanted to attend school. We find ancestral Richters who were born in 1795 and later. We assume that all of them went to school through the sixth class if not more (about equivalent to eighth grade in the US back in the early 1900s -- NOT today). With the growth of schools in Bohemia / Moravia after 1860 and especially after 1880, finding literate peasants was no longer very difficult and a Richter may have been chosen from a much broader group of candidates than previously. I believe that it was the villagers who first chose their Richters but I don't know if that system was ever surpassed by a simple appointment by a village Mayor or other official. Karen

    10/17/2008 07:16:30
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. Carroll: If you visit the Museum at Görlitz, I hope that you realize that this is Germany, not the Czech Republic. Görlitz was in Eastern Germany and as you know, they were over 50 years under Communism where nothing was rejuvenated during that time. They rebuilt immediately after the wall came down and they have done remarkable work. Since you will find yourself at Görlitz, you could easily visit Dresden. Dresden was the Florence of Germany with the most precious arts, paintings, sculptures and architecture. No military bases, no heavy industry, it was the King of the Saxon's playground. Culture, opera, theater, museums, parks, riverboats.... that was the meaning of Dresden. It was bombed for three days in a row by the Allied at the end of WW2 and 50,000 people found their death in just one night. They never could establish a true count of people because too many had fled from the Russian front and sheltered in the city. The actual count might be well double. The firestorm caused by the block buster bombs from the planes have left piles of burned bodies and nothing but the outside stone walls of the houses remained. After so many years gone by since then, Dresden has been rebuilt. They were using photographs of the original buildings and replicated the old architecture to the very original detail in sculpture and painting. Here in the true sense of the word "Phoenix rose from the ashes" and it is a most touching place to visit. It is a memorial equal to that of a "concentration camp" ..... only in reverse. It is a sign and warning that a politician's signature under a document can create the destruction of life, even of mankind. So if you want to visit Dresden, you will find its old playful looks, which is a veritable caress to your eyes. Don't forget to walk down to the Elbe River and go on a river side wheeler-boat for a memorable day trip. Enjoy! Aida -------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Aida, > I have corresponded with you before but it has been a long time ago. > My German ancestors lived in the Sudetenland, in far norther Moravia (Alt > Lublitz).? While my direct ancestors migrated to Texas in 1899, many of my > grandmother's cousins and other relatives remained behind. > > I have recently had some German letters translated and in one letter sent > to my grandmother in 1948 by her cousin (who, by then had been relocated to > Passau-Auerbach), the cousin states "You too can thank God that Johann did > not buy the Erbrichterei (?) in Hartan". > > My question is, who or what is Erbrichterei and where is Hartan? > > I hope that you receive this message in time and can reply to this request > this weekend because I am?leaving on Monday, Oct. 20th for?the first, and > probably only, time that I will visit Germany. I?plan to visit the Silesian > Museum in Gorlitz.? Can you give me any pointers of other places to visit in > that area? > Thanks for any assistance that you can provide. > Carroll Warschak > Waco, Texas > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aida'smail <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 3:47 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed > > > > Mary, as of this date, you still have to hire a genealogist to extract > information from the Czech archives. > There are a few microfilms of Church Registers on file at Leipzig from the > Sudetenland and those they shared with the LDS. Here is where you can > search their inventory. Einsiedl and Marienbad are not listed - > unfortunately! > Here is the link as to what is available in alphabetic order by > German village name and the number of the microfilm which is available from > the LDS. > http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kb-leipzig.html > Aida > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Read" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:06 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed > > > > Haven't heard any more about the LDS filming the > > records that are in archives in the Czech Republic. > > Has anyone heard? I'm anxious for the records in > > Pilsen to be microfilmed and/or digitized. My > > ancestors are from Marienbad and Einsiedl (Marianske > > Lazne and Mnichov). > > > > Mary Utschig Read > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/17/2008 06:43:00
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. Dear Carroll, I concur with Karen's explanation. They obviously were going to accept some sort of inheritance and backed out just in time. As it might have been connected to all sorts of efforts they considered them lucky not to have accepted the offer considering their inevitable expulsion. You misread Hartan - this is "HARTAU" and you can find it just a bit West of Alt Lublitz (Lublice) on this GPS GPS souřadnice Loc: 49°52'31.637"N, 17°35'58.17"E Go to www.mapy.cz and key in Lublice. When you see the red marker, click on the scale to make it a little smaller and then go up to where it says "dalsi" There select "historicka" and then the German names will come up. Move to the West until you find the above given coordinates. There is Hartau. Aida On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Aida, > I have corresponded with you before but it has been a long time ago. > My German ancestors lived in the Sudetenland, in far norther Moravia (Alt > Lublitz).? While my direct ancestors migrated to Texas in 1899, many of my > grandmother's cousins and other relatives remained behind. > > I have recently had some German letters translated and in one letter sent > to my grandmother in 1948 by her cousin (who, by then had been relocated to > Passau-Auerbach), the cousin states "You too can thank God that Johann did > not buy the Erbrichterei (?) in Hartan". > > My question is, who or what is Erbrichterei and where is Hartan? > > I hope that you receive this message in time and can reply to this request > this weekend because I am?leaving on Monday, Oct. 20th for?the first, and > probably only, time that I will visit Germany. I?plan to visit the Silesian > Museum in Gorlitz.? Can you give me any pointers of other places to visit in > that area? > Thanks for any assistance that you can provide. > Carroll Warschak > Waco, Texas > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aida'smail <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 3:47 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed > > > > Mary, as of this date, you still have to hire a genealogist to extract > information from the Czech archives. > There are a few microfilms of Church Registers on file at Leipzig from the > Sudetenland and those they shared with the LDS. Here is where you can > search their inventory. Einsiedl and Marienbad are not listed - > unfortunately! > Here is the link as to what is available in alphabetic order by > German village name and the number of the microfilm which is available from > the LDS. > http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kb-leipzig.html > Aida > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Read" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:06 AM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed > > > > Haven't heard any more about the LDS filming the > > records that are in archives in the Czech Republic. > > Has anyone heard? I'm anxious for the records in > > Pilsen to be microfilmed and/or digitized. My > > ancestors are from Marienbad and Einsiedl (Marianske > > Lazne and Mnichov). > > > > Mary Utschig Read > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/17/2008 06:24:09
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed
    2. Aida, I have corresponded with you before but it has been a long time ago. My German ancestors lived in the Sudetenland, in far norther Moravia (Alt Lublitz).? While my direct ancestors migrated to Texas in 1899, many of my grandmother's cousins and other relatives remained behind. I have recently had some German letters translated and in one letter sent to my grandmother in 1948 by her cousin (who, by then had been relocated to Passau-Auerbach), the cousin states "You too can thank God that Johann did not buy the Erbrichterei (?) in Hartan". My question is, who or what is Erbrichterei and where is Hartan? I hope that you receive this message in time and can reply to this request this weekend because I am?leaving on Monday, Oct. 20th for?the first, and probably only, time that I will visit Germany. I?plan to visit the Silesian Museum in Gorlitz.? Can you give me any pointers of other places to visit in that area? Thanks for any assistance that you can provide. Carroll Warschak Waco, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Aida'smail <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 3:47 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed Mary, as of this date, you still have to hire a genealogist to extract information from the Czech archives. There are a few microfilms of Church Registers on file at Leipzig from the Sudetenland and those they shared with the LDS. Here is where you can search their inventory. Einsiedl and Marienbad are not listed - unfortunately! Here is the link as to what is available in alphabetic order by German village name and the number of the microfilm which is available from the LDS. http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/kb-leipzig.html Aida ---------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Read" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Any info on Czech records being filmed > Haven't heard any more about the LDS filming the > records that are in archives in the Czech Republic. > Has anyone heard? I'm anxious for the records in > Pilsen to be microfilmed and/or digitized. My > ancestors are from Marienbad and Einsiedl (Marianske > Lazne and Mnichov). > > Mary Utschig Read > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/17/2008 06:15:31
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Gerichtsoberoffizial
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. Thanks Blossom, Renate explained the term this way: Offizial was a worker (employee/official) of an institution of the state (court, police, post and so on). Oberoffizial was one of the ranks of the career of an employee or official who worked for the state. The career started with Assistent, then followed Offizial, then Oberoffizial. And there were different classes of ranks (1st Class, 2nd Class, so on). A Gerichtsoberoffizial worked for an institution of law, for example for a court, but he was no judge." My English is not perfect. I hope that my translation is clear enough for you. If not, don't hesitate to ask. Then I will try to do it better. Renate [email protected] wrote: > > Perhaps a "top court official" > > Gericht is defined as Court, ober as top and offizial is official. > > Claudia Sperl > > > In a message dated 10/17/2008 9:48:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > What is a succinct translation of Gerichtsoberoffizial? > > On the Yahoo Groups Bukowina list service an explanation of > Gerichtsoberoffizial was presented but a "simple" translation is > needed. The term Gerichtsoberoffizial appears here: > > http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak

    10/17/2008 04:36:25
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Gerichtsoberoffizial
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. Laurence Krupnak wrote: > > What is a succinct translation of Gerichtsoberoffizial? > > On the Yahoo Groups Bukowina list service an explanation of > Gerichtsoberoffizial was presented but a "simple" translation is > needed. The term Gerichtsoberoffizial appears here: > > http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ It's a term in the 1909 Czernowitz directory. > > _______ > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/17/2008 04:04:27
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Gerichtsoberoffizial
    2. Laurence Krupnak
    3. What is a succinct translation of Gerichtsoberoffizial? On the Yahoo Groups Bukowina list service an explanation of Gerichtsoberoffizial was presented but a "simple" translation is needed. The term Gerichtsoberoffizial appears here: http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak

    10/17/2008 03:57:40
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Gerichtsoberoffizial
    2. Perhaps a "top court official" Gericht is defined as Court, ober as top and offizial is official. Claudia Sperl In a message dated 10/17/2008 9:48:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: What is a succinct translation of Gerichtsoberoffizial? On the Yahoo Groups Bukowina list service an explanation of Gerichtsoberoffizial was presented but a "simple" translation is needed. The term Gerichtsoberoffizial appears here: http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

    10/17/2008 03:56:51
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Gerichtsoberoffizial
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. Literally translated it means: Gerichts: of the Court Ober: High or upper Offizial: Official (of the legal system) Upper official of the Court. This position is not a supreme judge, because Judge would be "Richter" ..... I cannot find it in the Oxford Duden German dictionary, but there might be a special legal terminology dictionary somewhere. For this I would inquire at a library, Laury, they may have better sources. Or, perhaps there might be a German lawyer here on our list who could give us a more specific equivalent English. Aida ---------------------------------------------- On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Laurence Krupnak <[email protected]>wrote: > Laurence Krupnak wrote: > > > > What is a succinct translation of Gerichtsoberoffizial? > > > > On the Yahoo Groups Bukowina list service an explanation of > > Gerichtsoberoffizial was presented but a "simple" translation is > > needed. The term Gerichtsoberoffizial appears here: > > > > http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ > > > > It's a term in the 1909 Czernowitz directory. > > > > > > > > > > _______ > > > > Lavrentiy Krupniak > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/17/2008 02:26:13
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 229
    2. katherine stone
    3. Very interesting information. I checked out the website and found that there is yet another new genealogy program. Does this one replace PAF? Kathy S On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: German Genealogical Records in the 16th and 17thcentury > (Anna Gell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:09:26 +0800 > From: "Anna Gell" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th > and 17thcentury > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aida Kraus" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:42 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th and > 17thcentury > > >> For research in Germany in the 1500 and 1600 (16th and 17th century), and >> before there were church registers kept on a regular basis, go to this >> site >> and see the possibilities for more research. Submitted by Aida >> http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/beforecr.htm >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 10/12/2008 >> 12:00 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 229 > *********************************************** >

    10/14/2008 03:22:30
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 229
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. No it does not. Aida -------------------------------------------- On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:22 AM, katherine stone <[email protected]> wrote: > Very interesting information. I checked out the website and found that > there is yet another new genealogy program. Does this one replace PAF? > Kathy S > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: German Genealogical Records in the 16th and 17thcentury > > (Anna Gell) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:09:26 +0800 > > From: "Anna Gell" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th > > and 17thcentury > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aida Kraus" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:42 PM > > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th and > > 17thcentury > > > > > >> For research in Germany in the 1500 and 1600 (16th and 17th century), > and > >> before there were church registers kept on a regular basis, go to this > >> site > >> and see the possibilities for more research. Submitted by Aida > >> http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/beforecr.htm > >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG. > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: > 10/12/2008 > >> 12:00 PM > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 229 > > *********************************************** > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/14/2008 01:45:28
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th and 17thcentury
    2. Anna Gell
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aida Kraus" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th and 17thcentury > For research in Germany in the 1500 and 1600 (16th and 17th century), and > before there were church registers kept on a regular basis, go to this > site > and see the possibilities for more research. Submitted by Aida > http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/beforecr.htm > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 10/12/2008 > 12:00 PM > >

    10/13/2008 09:09:26
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] German Genealogical Records in the 16th and 17th century
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. For research in Germany in the 1500 and 1600 (16th and 17th century), and before there were church registers kept on a regular basis, go to this site and see the possibilities for more research. Submitted by Aida http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/beforecr.htm

    10/11/2008 03:42:30
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Family Tree Builder
    2. In a message dated 10/11/2008 7:17:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: If you want to share your entire Family tree with copies of photos and documents, stories, description of events, etc. as well as reminders of family birthdays, wedding anniversary, etc. then I can highly recommend GENI. Thanks Aida. It sounds very interesting. Cathy **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

    10/11/2008 01:30:51
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Family Tree Builder
    2. Has anyone tried Family Tree Builder that was mentioned here some time ago? I'm very happy with my Family Tree Maker, but two features of Family Tree Builder that interest me are face recognition and multiple languages. I have lots of unidentified photos and I would like to share my records with family in Germany. If anyone has tried the program, please let me know how it is. Thanks. Cathy **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

    10/11/2008 12:48:47
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Family Tree Builder
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. It really is, and once everyone on your family tree has made their data input, you can then request of GENi to send you a GED data transfer by email to send to your personal genealogical program of your choice. In other words, while you may lose your information on your computer, the depository at GENI will always be there. Since you can scan and deposit whatever original documents (or photocopies from church registers) you may have in your personal photo album section, I feel that this is the best way to share original documents with your family. They also have a feature where you can identify people in a group picture and you can tag them by name and relation and/or event. When another family member points to a person in the group picture, his/her name will come up. They really have thought of EVERYTHING for globally scattered families. Aida ---------------------------------------------- On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 4:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/11/2008 7:17:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > If you want to share your entire Family tree with copies of photos and > documents, stories, description of events, etc. as well as reminders of > family birthdays, wedding anniversary, etc. then I can highly recommend > GENI. > > > > Thanks Aida. It sounds very interesting. > > Cathy > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/11/2008 11:38:15
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Family Tree Builder
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. If you want to share your entire Family tree with copies of photos and documents, stories, description of events, etc. as well as reminders of family birthdays, wedding anniversary, etc. then I can highly recommend GENI. It is free of charge, your family will get your own website and you all can work on the tree simultaneously. It does not have to be published, you can meet at the site with passwords or you can set an icon on your desktop for immediate access. You can open or close information, as you like. We have about 3000 people on our combined sites from the present back to 1580 in some branches. The exchange of information is a easy . Just follow directions on the site. Invite Check it out on http://www.geni.com/login and click on "start your own family tree".... Good luck! Invite your relatives worldwide to join, and all of them will be eager to fill in their information on this site and only the family has access to it. My family accesses GENI from USA, Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Luxembourg, France, Belgium, and it just keeps growing.... There is not one single person "in charge" of the family ancestry, but everyone has equal access and input possibility to do as much or as little as they please. This will make your work SOOOOOO much easier. Aida On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone tried Family Tree Builder that was mentioned here some time ago? > I'm very happy with my Family Tree Maker, but two features of Family Tree > Builder that interest me are face recognition and multiple languages. I > have > lots of unidentified photos and I would like to share my records with > family in > Germany. If anyone has tried the program, please let me know how it is. > Thanks. > > Cathy > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/11/2008 10:17:30
    1. [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Silesian Name Records
    2. Aida Kraus
    3. Silesian names have now been digitalized and can be researched on this site: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Bild:Bahlow_Schlesisches_Namensbuch_index.djvu?page=002 The listings are by town - see below. If you have relatives in any of these places, be sure to visit this site. They abstracted and digitalized addressbooks from the following places. Aida Benutzte Adreßbücher Beuthen = Be Liegnitz = Lg Breslau = B Neisse = Nss[1]<http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Schlesisches_Namenbuch/013#_note-0> Brieg = Bg Neurode = Nd Bunzlau = Bzl Neusalz = Nz Freystadt = Fry Neustadt = Nst Glatz = Gl Öls = Ö Glogau = Gg Oppeln = Op Görlitz = Gö Ratibor = R Grünberg = Gr Reinerz = Rz Habelschwerdt = Hsw Sagan = Sg Haynau = Hy Schweidnitz = Sw Hirschberg = Hi Trebnitz = Tr Landeck Pasted from <http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Schlesisches_Namenbuch/013>

    10/09/2008 08:15:44
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] How far back can research really go?
    2. In a message dated 10/7/2008 4:53:28 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Scientists have proven that if your parents didn't have children you won't either. I don't know that it takes a scientist to make such a statement!!! ;-))) Fortunately for me, my parents, grandparents, and earlier generations DID have children. Karen **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)

    10/07/2008 12:57:33
    1. Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] How far back can research really go?
    2. DENNIS FEUERSTEIN
    3. Everyone born in those 80 generations didn't have children (2 to the 80th power is over a trillion trillion). Scientists have proven that if your parents didn't have children you won't either. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] How far back can research really go? For list members who think it may be possible to trace one's line back 600 years or more, see: _http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/no-one-will-find-themselves-in-dusty-old-birth-records-1479283.html_ (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/no-one-will-find-themselves-in-dusty-old-birth-records-1479283.html<http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/no-one-will-find-themselves-in-dusty-old-birth-records-1479283.html>) " Trace a line back 600 years and what you have is 16 million ancestors. Go back 80 generations and the figure rises to a trillion trillion (which is actually greater than the total number of people who've ever lived, but that's maths for you). The US National Centre for Biotechnology Information puts it as bluntly as it gets by pointing out that, if you trace the line back far enough, every single human on the planet would eventually be shown to be related. " The article is a "heads up" about researchers who want to sell us on the idea that we can be traced back to Charlemagne (as an example) with documented certainty. Karen **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001<http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001>) German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/07/2008 12:52:39