Karen and all, As Microfilm get indexed they are put on https://labs.familysearch.org/.<https://labs.familysearch.org/> Scroll down and click on 'Record Search' and then click on 'Browse our record collection'. It brings up a map of the world. Click on the area of the world that interests you or click on 'Search indexed records' to see list the files available you. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] New digital films at familysearchlabs FHL indexers have been working on the following since June 2009. Possibly some of these films are already online at FamilySearchLabs. Labs site should include a digital copy of each record in a film. Czech Republic, Litomerice Kirchenbücher, 1552–1905 [Part 1] Deutschland, Baden—Kirchenbücher, 1810-1869 Mexico DF Registros Parroquiales, 1886– 1933 [Part 1] South Africa, Cape Province Dutch Reformed Church, 1660–1970 U.S., Illinois, Cook County Birth Certificates, 1916–1922 [Part 2] U.S., Massachusetts Marriages, 1896–1897 U.S., Minnesota 1885 State Census Note that the MN 1885 and 1895 Census are very important since much of the US Federal 1890 census is unavailable. Karen German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

_http://www.decorahnewspapers.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=10&Artic leID=20321_ (http://www.decorahnewspapers.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=10&ArticleID=20321) Decorah Iowa newspapers have published a book about Nowegian immigration in the US. Go to the above URL for more information. Karen

FHL indexers have been working on the following since June 2009. Possibly some of these films are already online at FamilySearchLabs. Labs site should include a digital copy of each record in a film. Czech Republic, Litomerice Kirchenbücher, 1552–1905 [Part 1] Deutschland, Baden—Kirchenbücher, 1810-1869 Mexico DF Registros Parroquiales, 1886– 1933 [Part 1] South Africa, Cape Province Dutch Reformed Church, 1660–1970 U.S., Illinois, Cook County Birth Certificates, 1916–1922 [Part 2] U.S., Massachusetts Marriages, 1896–1897 U.S., Minnesota 1885 State Census Note that the MN 1885 and 1895 Census are very important since much of the US Federal 1890 census is unavailable. Karen

If your local library or LDS FHC subscribes to ProQuest you can read these old newspapers online. Many of our ncestors arrived in Baltimore and these papers may have ships arrivals as news and if we are really lucky they may even list passengers. Karen New Historical Newspapers Titles from ProQuest (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'new historical newspapers titles from proquest', '0', 290, 55);) The following announcement was written by ProQuest: ProQuest has added two newspapers to the ProQuest Historical Newspapers program: * ProQuest Historical Newspapers - The Baltimore Sun (1837-1985) * ProQuest Historical Newspapers – St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1874-1922) The Baltimore Sun was founded by Arunah Shepherdson Abell as a people’s paper reporting the news that mattered most to the residents of Baltimore and the nation including Washington D.C. politics, the slave trade and the Civil War, immigration, commerce, Americana, and literature. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1874-1922) was the first newspaper of Joseph Pulitzer, the father of “Yellow Journalism.” St. Louis served as a gateway to the west and north and was a city of firsts including the first public demonstration of radio communication, first U.S. host of the Olympics, and location of the world’s first skyscraper. To explore the fascinating events captured in these newspapers, contact your ProQuest Account Representative, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , (800) 521-0600 x3344 today! Posted by Dick Eastman on June 26, 2009 in _Online Sites_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/online_sites/) | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/new-historical-newspapers-titles-f rom-proquest.html)

_http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/newspaper-archive-hi ts-millionpage-milestone.html_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/newspaper-archive-hits-millionpage-milestone.html) The URL above is a page showing the names of online newspapers under a US government grant process. They are from all around the country. On the left of each newspaper name is a small red X. Click on it to find the years and dates available. Karen

Index of Hubbard County, Minnesota's Oldest, Largest Cemetery is Now Complete (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'index of hubbard county minnesotas oldest largest cemetery is now complete', '0', 290, 55);) Indexing of Park Rapids’ Greenwood Cemetery’s headstones – from 1892 to the present – is now complete and the information accessible on a Web site. Greenwood Cemetery is the culmination of a countywide cataloging project that began in 1990, Marion Town spearheading the initiative. (Lakeport Cemetery ’s index is complete, but is yet to be added to the site.) Genealogist Darryl Hensel began work on the Greenwood project in 2000 and last year, Beth Waller and Rod Nordberg volunteered time for its completion. The Greenwood Cemetery’s list includes nearly 4,800 deceased, most marked with headstones but a few just have death certificates, Hensel said of the 20-acre cemetery. “Put it this way,” he said. “There are more people dead than alive in Park Rapids.” Hensel has indexed about two-thirds of the 27 cemeteries in Hubbard County. You can read more in an article written by Jean Ruzicka in the Park Rapids Enterprise at _http://www.parkrapidsenterprise.com/event/article/id/18114/group/home/_ (http://www.parkrapidsenterprise.com/event/article/id/18114/group/home/) . Posted by Dick Eastman on June 20, 2009 in _Current Affairs_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/current_affairs/) | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/index-of-hubbard-county-minn esotas-oldest-largest-cemetery-is-now-complete-.html)

June 17, 2009 Ellis Island 1906 - The Video (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'ellis island 1906 the video', '0', 290, 55);) What was Ellis Island like when your ancestors arrived? Well, they didn't have instant video and various newscams around in those days, but there were a very few motion picture cameras available. One of those cameras was used on Ellis Island in 1906 and the video is now available on YouTube. The video depicts scenes at the Immigration Depot and a nearby dock on Ellis Island. The video appears to show, first, a group of immigrants lined up to board a vessel leaving the island, then another group arriving at the island and being directed off of the dock and into the Depot by a uniformed official. Millions of people saw and participated in similar scenes. You can view the video at _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8bPDdNRoxc_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8bPDdNRoxc) or click on the image below. There are a number of other youtube immigration videos that come up at the same site. They are on the right side of the page. Karen

June 15, 2009 U.S. Immigration Files Will Get New Home (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'us immigration files will get new home', '0', 290, 55);) The U.S. government was prepared to destroy millions of files documenting every person who immigrated to this country, or tried to, over the last century. Instead, those records will be saved and the vast majority of them will be kept in the Kansas City area, providing invaluable information to historians, genealogists and the merely curious. They’re called A-files, as in alien registration files. They are the paperwork of the wretched refuse and the huddled masses and everyone else who yearned for a better life in America. The minutiae of every great migration wave of the 20th century are recorded in citizenship applications, photographs, personal correspondence, foreign birth certificates, marriage licenses, health records, interview transcripts and more. People might learn where their great-grandfather lived and what he did for a living in the old country. Sociologists might glean insight into who was on the move and why. Researchers might discover patterns in the way immigrants were treated over the years. You can read more in an article by Matt Campbell in the Kansas City Star at _http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1252050.html_ (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1252050.html) . Posted by Dick Eastman on June 15, 2009 in _Current Affairs_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/current_affairs/) | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/us-immigration-files-will-ge t-new-home.html)

June 14, 2009 California Digital Newspaper Collection (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'california digital newspaper collection', '0', 290, 55);) (http://blog.eogn.com/.a/6a00d8341c767353ef011570191348970c-popup) The California Digital Newspaper Collection offers over 200,000 pages of California newspapers spanning the years 1849-191l: the Alta California, 1849-1891; the San Francisco Call, 1893-1910; the Amador Ledger, 1900-1911; the Imperial Valley Press, 1901-1911; the Sacramento Record-Union, 1859-1890; and the Los Angeles Herald, 1905-1907. All the issues are available online and can be viewed on your computer. Additional years are forthcoming, as are other early California newspapers: the Californian; the California Star; the California Star and Californian; the Sacramento Transcript; the Placer Times; and the Pacific Rural Press. The newspaper collection has two search modes: basic and advanced. Also available is a calendar feature that allows you to select a specific issue date and browse it. The basic search allows you to enter any word or phrase and the entire collection is searched for matches. Advanced searching allows you to refine your results in various ways. The "Search in" field allows you to select which newspaper titles you would like to search. The default is set to search "all newspapers," but you may click on a single title or multiple titles. To select a single title, simply click on the title you want to search. To select multiple titles, click on the first title you are interested in searching, then hold down the control key (ctrl) as you click on your other selections. You can also sort the results in any of several different methods: 1. Best Match First: This Google-like utility arranges the results to present the most relevant results first, providing you with the best possible matches. 2. Publication Title: Arranges the results alphabetically by newspaper title. 3. Date: Arranges the results chronologically by date. 4. Page: Arranges the results in page number order. With "ascending" selected in the second drop down menu, the results will be organized with all front pages displayed first, followed by all the second pages, then third pages, etc. This reduces browsing for users who are searching for a specific page. (For example, a user might know that the obituaries regularly occur on page 3 of a daily paper.) 5. Article Title: Arranges the results alphabetically by the first word that appears in the title. The California Digital Newspaper Collection is supported in part by the U.S. Institute of Museum and Library Services under the provisions of the Library Services and Technology Act, administered in California by the State Librarian. The California Digital Newspaper Collection is available at _http://cdnc.ucr.edu_ (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/) . Posted by Dick Eastman on June 14, 2009 in _Online Sites_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/online_sites/) | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-colle ction.html) Comments (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection/comments/atom.xml) You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the _comment feed_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection/comments/atom.xml) for this post. Unfortunately, I could browse newspapers all day and into the night. My grandmother got me interested in "reading the paper" at a very early age and it saddens me that several newspapers have folded. (pun intended) That more and more newspapers are digitized and on the Internet encourages me not only as a family researcher but as an amateur historian. Happy Dae· _http://ShoeStringGenealogy.com_ (http://shoestringgenealogy.com/) (see Newspaper Research in the Presentations) Posted by: _Dae Powell_ (http://shoestringgenealogy.com/) | _June 15, 2009 at 05:39 AM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection.html?cid=6a00d8341c767353ef0115701e2ccb97 0c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef0115701e2ccb970c) The University of Pennsylvania library has a website listing historical newspaper projects by state. The website is: _http://gethelp.library.upenn.edu/guides/hist/onlinenewspapers.html_ (http://gethelp.library.upenn.edu/guides/hist/onlinenewspapers.html) Posted by: Joan S. | _June 15, 2009 at 08:47 AM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection.html?c id=6a00d8341c767353ef0115701f65d7970c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef0115701f65d7 970c) As of this morning, the website was down because they were installing bigger servers. The announcement says the website would be down all last week, but I'm guessing they're just running a little behind. You might want to wait a few hours, or days, and try again. Posted by: Zinnchick | _June 15, 2009 at 03:32 PM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection.html ?cid=6a00d8341c767353ef01157020e084970c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef01157020e0 84970c) I have tried several times to get the newspaper collection for the Amador Ledger and have been told that it is undergoing changes until June 12th. Today is the evening of the 15th. If it is not available, PLEASE update the date when it will be completed. Thank you! Posted by: Audrey | _June 15, 2009 at 09:38 PM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection.html?ci d=6a00d8341c767353ef01157022900c970c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef01157022900c9 70c) I just tried now (Tues 16 June 3:20 pm MDT/5:20 EDT) and several searches worked fine. The initial image view "click" got the under construction warning -- but I clicked again and the full page image came up for viewing just fine. So I'd say, try anyway... but expect that you might get intermittent delays. Posted by: Gord Hines | _June 16, 2009 at 05:32 PM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/california-digital-newspaper-collection.htm l?cid=6a00d8341c767353ef011570269328970c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef011570269 328970c)

For list members who may be planning to attend the CGSI conference in St. Louis in October, 2011, this may be something to add to the attraction. Karen National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis Opens Agency Civilian Personnel Records to the Public (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'national personnel records center in st louis opens agency civilian personnel records to the public', '0', 290, 55);) The following announcement was written by the National Archives and Records Administration: (http://blog.eogn.com/.a/6a00d8341c767353ef011571070768970b-popup) ST. LOUIS, June 12 -- The National Archives' National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) opened more than 6 million individual personnel files of former federal civilian employees from the mid-1800s through 1951. These records will be of special interest to genealogists, family members, researchers, sociologists, and historians. Among the records are the files of prominent individuals who worked for the federal government, such as Walt Disney, Ansel Adams, Eliot Ness, Calvin Coolidge, J. Edgar Hoover, Gifford Pinchot, Walker Evans, and Albert Einstein. Ronald L. Hindman, Director of NPRC characterized these records "as a veritable treasure-trove of information for researchers and genealogists." He continued, "There are records from more than one hundred government agencies now available for discovery. They showcase the careers of government employees who investigated bootleggers; taught at Indian schools; worked in Japanese-American interment camps, in prisons, and on anti-prostitution boards, and created and implemented initiatives in Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal agencies, among others." These documents open a window into America's past. Examples include: * From the Bureau of Indian Affairs -- "The food the children had to eat was not clean. The school was dismissed at irregular hours; sometimes the children would not get home till half past five in the evening." * From the War Relocation Authority -- a job description: "The qualifications of the registrant: the ability to assume responsibility in the management and operation of a large community and composed entirely of one isolated racial group under war conditions and in the face of adverse public sentiment is a highly essential qualification." * From the Department of Justice -- a Prohibition Agent in the 1930s was found guilty of consuming liquor and shooting a bootlegger in the leg as the bootlegger tried to escape in his Model "A" Ford Coupe. This opening of 6 million files adds to the existing collection of more than 9 million military personnel files that are already available for research and is another step in the creation of the largest archival repository in the United States outside the National Archives in the Washington, DC area. In late 2010, the records will be moved to a state-of-the-art repository on Dunn Road, in suburban St Louis County, Missouri. To purchase a copy of a particular record, send a written request to NPRC, Civilian Personnel Records, 111 Winnebago Street, St. Louis, Missouri 63118-4199. The request should include the requester's contact information, the former federal employee's full name, date of birth, name of employing agency, and period of employment. Copies of the records can be purchased for either $20 or $60, depending upon the size of the record. Most records will fall into the $60 range. Once a request has been submitted, contact us at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) with any questions. Visitors to NPRC in St. Louis can make an appointment to view these records for free in the Archival Research Room. Visitors interested in doing so should call 314-801-0850 to schedule an appointment. Posted by Dick Eastman on June 13, 2009 in _Announcements_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/announcements/) | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/national-personnel-records-center -in-st-louis-opens-agency-civilian-personnel-records-to-the-public.html)

Available Databases in the Canadian Genealogy Centre room Library and Archives Canada (javascript:showOdiogoReadNowFrame ('270710', 'available databases in the canadian genealogy centre room library and archives canada', '0', 290, 55);) The following was written by Library and Archives Canada: Available Databases in the Canadian Genealogy Centre room Library and Archives Canada 395 Wellington Street Ottawa, Ontario The following databases are now available for consultation in the Canadian Genealogy Centre during opening hours: Acadia Acadian-Cajun Family Trees Newfoundland Births, Deaths and Marriages from Newfoundland Newspapers 1810-1890 Nova-Scotia Halifax Herald Online, 1961-1992 Ontario Beechwood Cemetery and Capital Memorial Gardens Index to the Upper Canada Land Books, 1787-1841 Index to the 1786 McNiff Maps (Stormont, Dundas, Glengarry) Pinecrest Cemetery and Highland Park Cemetery Québec Chronica (documents from New France) Index consolidé des mariages du Québec (marriages 1926-1996) Index consolidé des décès du Québec (deaths 1926-1996) Parchemin (Notaries / Notaires, 1626-1789) Quebec Land Grants, 1763-1890 Répertoire des mariages Tremblay England and Ireland Cornwall Phillimore's Parish Registers Hampshire Phillimore's Parish Registers Index of Irish Wills, 1484-1858 Memorials of the Dead (gravestone inscriptions) Norfolk Phillimore's Parish Registers Returning Home: Transatlantic Migration for North America to Britain and Ireland, 1858-1870 Surviving 1851 Census Returns of Ireland Ships Ships and Seafarers of Atlantic Canada The Ships List: Passenger Ship Arrivals, Canadian Ports, 1865-1899 (information about ships; no passenger names) Military Carleton's Loyalist Index (British Headquarters Papers, 1774-1783) Courage and Service: Second World War Awards to Canadians ****************** Bases de données accessibles dans la salle du Centre canadien de généalogie, Bibliothèque et Archives Canada 395, rue Wellington Ottawa Ontario Les bases de données suivantes sont maintenant accessibles pour consultation dans la salle du Centre canadien de généalogie pendant les heures d'ouverture : Acadie Acadian-Cajun Family Trees Nouvelle-Écosse Halifax Herald Online, 1961-1992 Ontario Beechwood Cemetery and Capital Memorial Gardens Index to the Upper Canada Land Books, 1787-1841 Index to the 1786 McNiff Maps (Stormont, Dundas, Glengarry) Pinecrest Cemetery and Highland Park Cemetery Québec Chronica (documents de la Nouvelle France) Index consolidé des mariages du Québec (mariages 1926-1996) Index consolidé des décès du Québec (décès 1926-1996) Parchemin (Actes notariés / Notaires, 1626-1789) Quebec Land Grants, 1763-1890 Répertoire des mariages Tremblay Terre-Neuve Births, Deaths and Marriages from Newfoundland Newspapers 1810-1890 Angleterre et Irlande Cornwall Phillimore's Parish Registers Hampshire Phillimore's Parish Registers Index of Irish Wills, 1484-1858 Memorials of the Dead (inscriptions de pierres tombales) Norfolk Phillimore's Parish Registers Returning Home: Transatlantic Migration for North America to Britain and Ireland, 1858-1870 Surviving 1851 Census Returns of Ireland Navires Ships and Seafarers of Atlantic Canada The Ships List: Passenger Ship Arrivals, Canadian Ports, 1865-1899 (à propos des navires; aucuns noms de passagers) Militaire Carleton's Loyalist Index (British Headquarters Papers, 1774-1783) Courage and Service: Second World War Awards to Canadians Posted by Dick Eastman on June 11, 2009 | _Permalink_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/available-databases-in-the-canadian-genea logy-centre-room-library-and-archives-canada.html) Comments (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/available-databases-in-the-canadian-genealogy-centre-room-library-and-archives-canada/comments/ atom.xml) You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the _comment feed_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/available-databases-in-the-canadian-genealogy-centre-room-library-and-archives-canada/comm ents/atom.xml) for this post. I tried 2 names. Got a hit on one but not the other. Both names were mates of great uncles, so I was not willing to pay for the certificates anyway. Just testing the system. Volunteers from the genealogical society did the same thing for the state of Arizona. And the records are free. I had lots of relatives there and now have photocopies of many birth, marriage, and death certificates of uncles, aunts, and cousins as well as direct ancestors. Posted by: H S Lanham | _June 12, 2009 at 11:37 AM_ (http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/available-databases-in-the-canadian-genealo gy-centre-room-library-and-archives-canada.html?cid=6a00d8341c767353ef011570 088781970c#comment-6a00d8341c767353ef011570088781970c)

Bill, you have been in contact with me on this same subject and sent sent you pictures and links you should use. I transferred to you extensive research links for this area. Unterhütten Registers are in the Pilsen Archives under Muttersdorf and Schwarzach in the Bischofteinitz area. I also gave you the email of a contact person and I wonder how much you have done with the material I sent you. It took me many hours to find these links for you and I hope you make use of it with the translating links I sent you also. This is what is available: 25 SM 4914 oo + 1770-1784 Pfarrbezirk 26 SM 4914 * oo 1703-1733 Pfarrbezirk 27 SM 4914 + 1703-1733 Pfarrbezirk (Index chronologisch) 28 SM 4914 * 1734-1784 Dorf Schnaggenm�hl 29 SM 4914 * 1734-1784 Unterh�ttte (Neuglash�tte) 30 SM 4915 * 1734-1769 Muttersdorf 31 SM 4915 * 1770-1784 Muttersdorf. Aida ---------------------------------------------- On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen: > > They came from "Unterhütten, Kreis, Bohemia". I want to thank you for > the info you sent. I will have to check it out. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 4:16:45 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bill Forshay, destroyed places > > > > > > > > > http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet.html > > Bill, try the URL above. You can click on the letter of the alphabet for > your > now destroyed place and if they have any records of it, it should come up. > > HOWEVER, you may need to know the placename of the parish church if it > was not in the destroyed village. If you have a map showing a cross or > other > symbol for a church you may be able to pick out the placename you need. > > Once you have the name of the parish place, look for that in the > alphabetical > list (click on the letter) at the URL above. > > Maps with symbols for churches can be found online at Bill Tarkulich's > great > map page. > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm > > Select the latitude and longitude that would include your place (maybe > check > that at Shtetlseeker town search first) and the map that unfolds will be > very > high resolution showing buiildings and footpaths in 1885-1905. The > now-destroyed > places will be shown with German names and with the nearby places where > there > were churches, castles and other important buildings. > > Once you have an idea of the parish name you should be able to find the > what records are available at the alphabetical place name list at the top > of > this message. > > I believe there is a map online showing a cross where each destroyed > village > was located. Perhaps another list member has a copy or knows the URL. > > There may also be a Heimatbuch with a page in it about the history of your > place. If you tell us what that name is, we may be able to help more. > > Karen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Forshay <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 12:52 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? > > > Moses: > > > > Could you tell me how you found those records? Did you hire a > researcher > > or dig them out of the internet? I'm pretty sure where my wife's family > came > > from. But the town has beeen destroyed now. I don't know where the records > would > > be located now. > > > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Theimer, Moses" <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:10:00 PM > > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? > > > > Dear All: > > > > I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather > Bruno > > Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was > Bohemian > > however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify > this > > and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any > information > > is greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > > > Moses > > > > > > Major Moses C. Theimer > > Assistant Professor > > New Mexico Military Institute > > Communications Department > > 101 West College Boulevard > > Roswell, New Mexico 88201 > > (505)624-8202 > > [email protected] > > www.nmmi.edu > > > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the > sole > > use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is > > prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of > > Public Records Act. 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Karen: They came from "Unterhütten, Kreis, Bohemia". I want to thank you for the info you sent. I will have to check it out. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 4:16:45 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bill Forshay, destroyed places http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet.html Bill, try the URL above. You can click on the letter of the alphabet for your now destroyed place and if they have any records of it, it should come up. HOWEVER, you may need to know the placename of the parish church if it was not in the destroyed village. If you have a map showing a cross or other symbol for a church you may be able to pick out the placename you need. Once you have the name of the parish place, look for that in the alphabetical list (click on the letter) at the URL above. Maps with symbols for churches can be found online at Bill Tarkulich's great map page. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm Select the latitude and longitude that would include your place (maybe check that at Shtetlseeker town search first) and the map that unfolds will be very high resolution showing buiildings and footpaths in 1885-1905. The now-destroyed places will be shown with German names and with the nearby places where there were churches, castles and other important buildings. Once you have an idea of the parish name you should be able to find the what records are available at the alphabetical place name list at the top of this message. I believe there is a map online showing a cross where each destroyed village was located. Perhaps another list member has a copy or knows the URL. There may also be a Heimatbuch with a page in it about the history of your place. If you tell us what that name is, we may be able to help more. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Bill Forshay <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 12:52 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Moses: Could you tell me how you found those records? Did you hire a researcher or dig them out of the internet? I'm pretty sure where my wife's family came from. But the town has beeen destroyed now. I don't know where the records would be located now. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: "Theimer, Moses" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:10:00 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Dear All: I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet.html Bill, try the URL above. You can click on the letter of the alphabet for your now destroyed place and if they have any records of it, it should come up. HOWEVER, you may need to know the placename of the parish church if it was not in the destroyed village. If you have a map showing a cross or other symbol for a church you may be able to pick out the placename you need. Once you have the name of the parish place, look for that in the alphabetical list (click on the letter) at the URL above. Maps with symbols for churches can be found online at Bill Tarkulich's great map page. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm Select the latitude and longitude that would include your place (maybe check that at Shtetlseeker town search first) and the map that unfolds will be very high resolution showing buiildings and footpaths in 1885-1905. The now-destroyed places will be shown with German names and with the nearby places where there were churches, castles and other important buildings. Once you have an idea of the parish name you should be able to find the what records are available at the alphabetical place name list at the top of this message. I believe there is a map online showing a cross where each destroyed village was located. Perhaps another list member has a copy or knows the URL. There may also be a Heimatbuch with a page in it about the history of your place. If you tell us what that name is, we may be able to help more. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Bill Forshay <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 12:52 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Moses: Could you tell me how you found those records? Did you hire a researcher or dig them out of the internet? I'm pretty sure where my wife's family came from. But the town has beeen destroyed now. I don't know where the records would be located now. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: "Theimer, Moses" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:10:00 PM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Dear All: I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello folks - As Aida has indicated to find Sternberk (Sternberg) go to www.mapy.cz There are actually two Sternberks, one in Moravia and another in Bohemia, you can call both up on www.mapy.cz The Moravian is Sternberk in the district (Kreis-Okres) Olomouc and the other is called "Cesky Sternberk" the bohemian Sternberk in the district of Benesov. To decide from which your ancestor came from we would need to look at a birth,marriage,death or other certificates. As Aida already indicated I was born and grew up not far from the Moravian Sternberg. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aida Kraus Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:54 PM To: german-bohemian Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Sternberk - Sternberg Click on this site and see the thumb tack No. 2. That is the old Sternberg North-North-East of Olmütz (now Olomouc) http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected]=%C5%[email protected][email protected]=121920620_1 [email protected][email protected][email protected]=7 To see the old German map, look at this site above where it says "dalsi" underneath there is the word historicka, click on it. I am sure that Frank Soural will copy and might be in contact with you. He is our Moravian specialist, born and raised there. You may want to check this site in English: Go to: http://www.iarelative.com/czech/sea0598b.htm There are also several groups in Germany, and there are certainly a few who have recreated the population of their town for genealogical purposes. You may want to check with them also, but they are in German. You may want to see the pictures if you do not read the language or use an on line translator from this site : http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en Go to: http://www.heimatverein-sternberg.de/ for pictures click on Heimatstube Go to: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreis_Sternberg_(M%C3%A4hren) where they are listing all the villages around Sternberg Go to: http://www.markt-pfaffenhofen.de/geschichte/html_geschichte/die_heimatvertri ebenen.htm which contains all the names of people who were expelled from Sternberg and surrounding area, it has a wealth of names and places if you scroll down. Go to: http://home.bawue.de/~hanacek/egene/enlika07.htm this is a helpful link to Moravian genealogy Good luck, Aida German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are a few more thoughts I would like to add to what I wrote below. Karel Kysilka has an excellent website on Moravian Genalogy and history http://zlimpkk.tripod.com/ A part of it includes a page with maps of the Kraje of Moravia in 1848 with the borders of the Herrschaft or noble dominions that existed before the 1848-49 rebellion ended noble landlord and serfdom. The dominions were replaced with counties around 1849 but the borders of the new counties could closely resemble an old Herrschaft. Each Herrschaft had an administrative center where the "Oberamtmann" or another overseer of the nobleman's business in his dominion had his offices and that place is shown on Kysilka's maps. In some cases that might now be a county seat if the place were large enough. However, some Herrschaft had only relatively small places within their borders and even the place where a nobleman's manor, palace or old castle was located might have a relatively small population. Kysilka's maps are at: http://zlimpkk.tripod.com/morava/kraje.html There is one for each Kraj. There is a map key on the page. Each map can be downloaded and saved in high resolution. Point at the map of a Kraj and it shows the large size of the original. On another of his webpages of place names from A-Z Kysilka has a link for Sternberg (near Olomouc) but when I clicked on it I didn't get much. Just do a websearch with the placename (Sternberk is the present Czech name so search with that and with Sternberg) and the home page for the town may come up. It is sometimes a good idea to go to: Shtetlseeker Town Search to get the latitude and longitude of all the possibilities in Moravia. Just enter the placename and Czech Republic. I did a quick search there and hit on about eigh placest, to include the one near Olomouc. The results give a link to a MapQuest map for each place. Just explore the site a bit. It is in English. Olomouc has a very important archive and I believe some of their records are now online. If Sternberg is very close it is likely that Olomouc is where the best records are located. When there was an Austrian King of Bohemia Olomouc was Olmutz and the site of a very important fortress that served as mustering point for the Austrian Army of the North in 1866. The army marched out from there, wandering westward and then back East to Koeniggraetz.. Prussia defeated Austria there after a series of blunders by the Austrian General Staff. My great grandfather fought there and could not wait to leave Bohemia once he mustered out. He no longer believed that the "higher ups" cared anything for the common man after his experience during that war. Its a good idea to assume that every ancestor who was not very well educated (professional) or very well off (a Burgher or better) served in the army around the time he was 20 years old. The LDS has filmed most of the military records for Moravia up to 1969 or 1870 and there may be some as late as 1885 in the film titled: Grundbuchblatter diverse That is a good starting point in a search for military records. If an ancestral name with the appears with the right place name, the record will also give the name of the regiment in which he served as well as other information. The film Grunbuchblatter Diverse may have more than one alphabetical order of soldiers' names in it. If you find nothing keep going past the last name in the alphabet to see if another alphabet starts. Karen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Moses, The Kingdom of Bohemia included 16 Kriese (Kraj) in the province of Bohemia with Prague as the provincial and royal capital. The kingdom also included 6 more Kreise (Kraj) in the province of Moravia where Brno was the provincial capital. Each Kreis also had its own administrative central city. Today's Czech Republic is roughly the same territory but the political organization is somewhat changed. Brno is still the main archive for Moravian records and Prague is the central archive for old royal records up to 1918 when Czechoslovakia reorganized it all again. CZ included what was left of the old Duchy of Austrian Silesia in eastern Moravia as a sort of part of today's Moravia. Opava / Troppau was its political center and most of the old Silesian records are still there. Bohemian genealogy depends on doing one's map-reading homework. There are a lot of old Bohemian and Moravian and Austrian Silesia maps in parchement atlases online at various university libraries in the US. The maps are not only beautiful and worthy of framing but they show how the various Circles/ Kreis / districts within the province of Bohemia or Moravia (usually on different pages) looked at a time when many of our ancestors first settled in that kingdome after the 30-Years War. A little more research of old maps on the internet will show changes in the borders of the various "Circles" (Kreis) with some growing in size while others shrank a bit. All of that is significant when one wants to know in which archive one might find records. An ancestor may have settled in one " Circle" but ended up in another without moving anywhere. Moravia seemed to have a fairly stable political organization with the number of Circles there at six or seven just about forever, if I recall. There were 14 circles in the province of Bohemia in the 1620s but in 1848 there were 16. The number of counties (Bezirke, Obec) changed too from an early number of about 32 to well over 100 after 1918. So a map showing counties may also be helpful if one is looking for the FIRST location of the oldest records that were kept by County Commissioners -- often at the Rathaus in the county's central town. Many of the county archives have now been moved to regional archives but it is still worthwhile to ask at the county level (if possible) what is still there. It may be necessary to hire a Czech researcher to do that for you. Such a professional would also be able to tell you to where any other records were moved and might also be able to find what is needed at the new repository. Maps are an important genealogical resource and maps that represent the time period when one's ancestors were born, died, served in the military, married or emigrated would serve one much better than a modern map of the Czech Republic. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Theimer, Moses <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 10:10 am Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Dear All: I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Moses, The Kingdom of Bohemia included 16 Kriese (Kraj) in the province of Bohemia with Prague as the provincial and royal capital. The kingdom also included 6 more Kreise (Kraj) in the province of Moravia where Brno was the provincial capital. Each Kreis also had its own administrative central city. Today's Czech Republic is roughly the same territory but the political organization is somewhat changed. Brno is still the main archive for Moravian records and Prague is the central archive for old royal records up to 1918 when Czechoslovakia reorganized it all again. CZ included what was left of the old Duchy of Austrian Silesia in eastern Moravia as a sort of part of today's Moravia. Opava / Troppau was its political center and most of the old Silesian records are still there. Bohemian genealogy depends on doing one's map-reading homework. There are a lot of old Bohemian and Moravian and Austrian Silesia maps in parchement atlases online at various university libraries in the US. The maps are not only beautiful and worthy of framing but they show how the various Circles/ Kreis / districts within the province of Bohemia or Moravia (usually on different pages) looked at a time when many of our ancestors first settled in that kingdome after the 30-Years War. A little more research of old maps on the internet will show changes in the borders of the various "Circles" (Kreis) with some growing in size while others shrank a bit. All of that is significant when one wants to know in which archive one might find records. An ancestor may have settled in one " Circle" but ended up in another without moving anywhere. Moravia seemed to have a fairly stable political organization with the number of Circles there at six or seven just about forever, if I recall. There were 14 circles in the province of Bohemia in the 1620s but in 1848 there were 16. The number of counties (Bezirke, Obec) changed too from an early number of about 32 to well over 100 after 1918. So a map showing counties may also be helpful if one is looking for the FIRST location of the oldest records that were kept by County Commissioners -- often at the Rathaus in the county's central town. Many of the county archives have now been moved to regional archives but it is still worthwhile to ask at the county level (if possible) what is still there. It may be necessary to hire a Czech researcher to do that for you. Such a professional would also be able to tell you to where any other records were moved and might also be able to find what is needed at the new repository. Maps are an important genealogical resource and maps that represent the time period when one's ancestors were born, died, served in the military, married or emigrated would serve one much better than a modern map of the Czech Republic. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Theimer, Moses <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 10:10 am Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Dear All: I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Moses, I found a Sternberk, Czech Republic, Sternberg, Austria,4 Sternbergs in Germany. Below is a link to Moravian message board. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> . Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Theimer, Moses<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? Dear All: I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.nmmi.edu<http://www.nmmi.edu/> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sternberg http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected]=%C5%[email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected]=7 <http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected]=%C5%[email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected]=7> Aida On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]>wrote: > Moses: > > Could you tell me how you found those records? Did you hire a > researcher or dig them out of the internet? I'm pretty sure where my wife's > family came from. But the town has beeen destroyed now. I don't know where > the records would be located now. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Theimer, Moses" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:10:00 PM > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Theimer- Bohemian or Moravian ? > > Dear All: > > I just received some documents from the Czech Republic that my Grandfather > Bruno Theimer was born in Sternberg. I always thought that the this area > was Bohemian however I am finding out that it was Moravian. Can someone > please clarify this and if this may be correct guild me to a website for > Moravians. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Moses > > > Major Moses C. Theimer > Assistant Professor > New Mexico Military Institute > Communications Department > 101 West College Boulevard > Roswell, New Mexico 88201 > (505)624-8202 > [email protected] > www.nmmi.edu > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments, is for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or > distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico > Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Click on this site and see the thumb tack No. 2. That is the old Sternberg North-North-East of Olmütz (now Olomouc) http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected]=%C5%[email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected]=7 To see the old German map, look at this site above where it says "dalsi" underneath there is the word historicka, click on it. I am sure that Frank Soural will copy and might be in contact with you. He is our Moravian specialist, born and raised there. You may want to check this site in English: Go to: http://www.iarelative.com/czech/sea0598b.htm There are also several groups in Germany, and there are certainly a few who have recreated the population of their town for genealogical purposes. You may want to check with them also, but they are in German. You may want to see the pictures if you do not read the language or use an on line translator from this site : http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en Go to: http://www.heimatverein-sternberg.de/ for pictures click on Heimatstube Go to: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreis_Sternberg_(M%C3%A4hren) where they are listing all the villages around Sternberg Go to: http://www.markt-pfaffenhofen.de/geschichte/html_geschichte/die_heimatvertriebenen.htm which contains all the names of people who were expelled from Sternberg and surrounding area, it has a wealth of names and places if you scroll down. Go to: http://home.bawue.de/~hanacek/egene/enlika07.htm this is a helpful link to Moravian genealogy Good luck, Aida