http://www.sudetenbote.com/ from Aida

I was wondering if anyone was familiar with the town (supposedly town) names of DEUTSCHBORAN AND KOENIGREICH, both supposedly in Austria (Austrian-Hungarian Empire). These names were from about the 1807-1937 era, the names taken from family documents. This information is for someone else, but I was hoping I could help her out by writing to our German-Bohemian group to see if anyone was familiar with these names and their whereabouts. Mary Family names from Marienbad, Einsiedl, Pfaffengrün, Rajov, Rauchenbach, etc., area - Utschig, Schicker, Löw, Ziedler, Rama, Lenz, Pichl, Dietl, etc.

Aida: Thank you for sharing. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Happy Fourth of July 2010 > Happy 4th of July to you Aida. Thanks for this email, its beautiful. > looking at the czech countrysides made me even a bit homesick.Love Susie > > > In a message dated 7/3/2010 9:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > For a moment of reflection.... from Aida > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzs52OzgWOs&feature=related > And after this, lets us look back into the past. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr7WsEm74QM&feature=related > And to our Czech friends in memory of the Pisnicka Heska ("the beautiful > song" which you'll find at the end of this You tube presentation) which > we > sang together. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCd8gYpExCQ&feature=related > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Happy 4th of July to you Aida. Thanks for this email, its beautiful. looking at the czech countrysides made me even a bit homesick.Love Susie In a message dated 7/3/2010 9:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: For a moment of reflection.... from Aida http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzs52OzgWOs&feature=related And after this, lets us look back into the past. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr7WsEm74QM&feature=related And to our Czech friends in memory of the Pisnicka Heska ("the beautiful song" which you'll find at the end of this You tube presentation) which we sang together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCd8gYpExCQ&feature=related German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For a moment of reflection.... from Aida http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzs52OzgWOs&feature=related And after this, lets us look back into the past. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr7WsEm74QM&feature=related And to our Czech friends in memory of the Pisnicka Heska ("the beautiful song" which you'll find at the end of this You tube presentation) which we sang together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCd8gYpExCQ&feature=related

My last post was wrong, the Brno Archives appear to be working. Just seemed a bit so this morning. Ken

Thanks, Ken.  I'm glad to know it isn't just my computer.  I have been having other troubles with Firefox, but when we couldn't get the site to work with IE, or Chrome, we began to suspect the problem was at the Archive web site.  Will just have to be patient, I guess.  Marg --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Ken Chromy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ken Chromy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 98 To: [email protected] Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 5:31 AM I can't get pages to load either, including those that previously did. This includes images for the Brno Archives too. The problem is apparently not with your computer but with their website.  Ken ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 2:00:27 AM Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 98 German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ Today's Topics:    1. Czech Archives (Marg McEuen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Czech Archives To: German Bohemian List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello.? Are any of you having trouble with loading pages from www.actapublica.eu now that they have changed the site this week.? I could load most of the pages from Matriky from the Plzen section before they changed the site. Now no pages will load from any of the Matriky at all.? I usually use Firefox, but doesn't work now.? My husband, who knows computers better, also tried IE and Chrome, but nothing works. Do any of you have any idea what the problem could be.? Is it the site, or is it my computer Browsers?? I'd really appreciate any ideas on what to try or if it is something about the "upgraded" site.? Thanks for any help. Marg McEuen Researching KAHABKA, KUNZL, HABLA, ZIEGLER,? ROTH, KLUGL, KLIESINGER, GARTNER, TRESCHER, FRANK, WEINER, JANUSCH, KNOPHER, AND LISSE all in the Lestkov, Domaslav, Bezdrucize, Celiv, Pottin, Zadub, Olbramov and surrounding areas. ------------------------------ To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 98 **********************************************       German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't get pages to load either, including those that previously did. This includes images for the Brno Archives too. The problem is apparently not with your computer but with their website. Ken ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 2:00:27 AM Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 98 German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ Today's Topics: 1. Czech Archives (Marg McEuen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Czech Archives To: German Bohemian List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello.? Are any of you having trouble with loading pages from www.actapublica.eu now that they have changed the site this week.? I could load most of the pages from Matriky from the Plzen section before they changed the site. Now no pages will load from any of the Matriky at all.? I usually use Firefox, but doesn't work now.? My husband, who knows computers better, also tried IE and Chrome, but nothing works. Do any of you have any idea what the problem could be.? Is it the site, or is it my computer Browsers?? I'd really appreciate any ideas on what to try or if it is something about the "upgraded" site.? Thanks for any help. Marg McEuen Researching KAHABKA, KUNZL, HABLA, ZIEGLER,? ROTH, KLUGL, KLIESINGER, GARTNER, TRESCHER, FRANK, WEINER, JANUSCH, KNOPHER, AND LISSE all in the Lestkov, Domaslav, Bezdrucize, Celiv, Pottin, Zadub, Olbramov and surrounding areas. ------------------------------ To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 98 **********************************************

Hello.  Are any of you having trouble with loading pages from www.actapublica.eu now that they have changed the site this week.  I could load most of the pages from Matriky from the Plzen section before they changed the site. Now no pages will load from any of the Matriky at all.  I usually use Firefox, but doesn't work now.  My husband, who knows computers better, also tried IE and Chrome, but nothing works. Do any of you have any idea what the problem could be.  Is it the site, or is it my computer Browsers?  I'd really appreciate any ideas on what to try or if it is something about the "upgraded" site.  Thanks for any help. Marg McEuen Researching KAHABKA, KUNZL, HABLA, ZIEGLER,  ROTH, KLUGL, KLIESINGER, GARTNER, TRESCHER, FRANK, WEINER, JANUSCH, KNOPHER, AND LISSE all in the Lestkov, Domaslav, Bezdrucize, Celiv, Pottin, Zadub, Olbramov and surrounding areas.

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:57:41 -0400 "Frank Slocum" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Aida. The words of wisdom and experience that I was >looking to > recieve. I will explore the listings. > >Frank Slocum > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Aida Kraus" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:22 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Hotel Recommendation Karlsbad > > >> Although the Hotel Thermal is the most central, and the first huge >>spa >> hotel >> coming down from the main rail road station (on top of the >>city)......it >> does not have a good write up anymore. You can look at it on the >> internet, >> if you like, just key in "Hotel Thermal, Karlovy Vary." Read the >> comments! >> BUT! I can highly recommend to you the Embassy Hotel >> http://www.embassy.cz/embassydnn/ >> and you can probably make arrangements with them to be picked up >>from the >> railroad station, or take a taxi. It is one of the few family owned >> hotels. >> There is a lot of pedestrian traffic rather than cars (their access >>being >> limited in the spa area), and you would get a nice walk along the >> promenade >> and along the river Tepl, where you can meander along the Tepl River >> visiting the Karlsbad Spa valley and all hot springs. Book 2 >>nights, to >> enjoy a day walking around, you will not need transportation and you >>can >> use >> the cogwheel tram to get to forest walking trails and Cafe's on top >>of the >> mountains with a lovely view. The other recommendation I can make >>is the >> Hotel Boston, for the sole reason, that it is catering to English >>speaking >> guests. You will need a pickup or taxi to get there as it is in the >> middle >> of town. This is a less expensive place. Look at it on the internet >>by >> keying in "Hotel Boston, Karlovy Vary, Czech Republic". >> I am a born Karlsbader, enjoy my beloved mountains and ... >>take a >> few >> breadcrumbs from the table to feed the many HUGE German brown trouts >> underneath the bridges! --- The hot springs taste lousy but are >>potent; >> they >> dissolve gallstones on a 3-week Spa regimen overseen by a >>Balneological >> Doctor of Medicine. >> Enjoy my hometown and have a noontime meal at the >>"Egerländer"! You >> can walk there. >> Aida >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Frank Slocum >><[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Friends: Can anyone make a recommendation about a local hotel in >>> Karlsbad, >>> perhaps walking distance to main train station. >>> >>> Also posssibly a tour assistant to day travel to local outlying >>>village. >>> >>> Frank Slocum >>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Aida. The words of wisdom and experience that I was looking to recieve. I will explore the listings. Frank Slocum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aida Kraus" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Hotel Recommendation Karlsbad > Although the Hotel Thermal is the most central, and the first huge spa > hotel > coming down from the main rail road station (on top of the city)......it > does not have a good write up anymore. You can look at it on the > internet, > if you like, just key in "Hotel Thermal, Karlovy Vary." Read the > comments! > BUT! I can highly recommend to you the Embassy Hotel > http://www.embassy.cz/embassydnn/ > and you can probably make arrangements with them to be picked up from the > railroad station, or take a taxi. It is one of the few family owned > hotels. > There is a lot of pedestrian traffic rather than cars (their access being > limited in the spa area), and you would get a nice walk along the > promenade > and along the river Tepl, where you can meander along the Tepl River > visiting the Karlsbad Spa valley and all hot springs. Book 2 nights, to > enjoy a day walking around, you will not need transportation and you can > use > the cogwheel tram to get to forest walking trails and Cafe's on top of the > mountains with a lovely view. The other recommendation I can make is the > Hotel Boston, for the sole reason, that it is catering to English speaking > guests. You will need a pickup or taxi to get there as it is in the > middle > of town. This is a less expensive place. Look at it on the internet by > keying in "Hotel Boston, Karlovy Vary, Czech Republic". > I am a born Karlsbader, enjoy my beloved mountains and ... take a > few > breadcrumbs from the table to feed the many HUGE German brown trouts > underneath the bridges! --- The hot springs taste lousy but are potent; > they > dissolve gallstones on a 3-week Spa regimen overseen by a Balneological > Doctor of Medicine. > Enjoy my hometown and have a noontime meal at the "Egerländer"! You > can walk there. > Aida > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Frank Slocum <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Friends: Can anyone make a recommendation about a local hotel in >> Karlsbad, >> perhaps walking distance to main train station. >> >> Also posssibly a tour assistant to day travel to local outlying village. >> >> Frank Slocum >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Friends: Can anyone make a recommendation about a local hotel in Karlsbad, perhaps walking distance to main train station. Also posssibly a tour assistant to day travel to local outlying village. Frank Slocum

Although the Hotel Thermal is the most central, and the first huge spa hotel coming down from the main rail road station (on top of the city)......it does not have a good write up anymore. You can look at it on the internet, if you like, just key in "Hotel Thermal, Karlovy Vary." Read the comments! BUT! I can highly recommend to you the Embassy Hotel http://www.embassy.cz/embassydnn/ and you can probably make arrangements with them to be picked up from the railroad station, or take a taxi. It is one of the few family owned hotels. There is a lot of pedestrian traffic rather than cars (their access being limited in the spa area), and you would get a nice walk along the promenade and along the river Tepl, where you can meander along the Tepl River visiting the Karlsbad Spa valley and all hot springs. Book 2 nights, to enjoy a day walking around, you will not need transportation and you can use the cogwheel tram to get to forest walking trails and Cafe's on top of the mountains with a lovely view. The other recommendation I can make is the Hotel Boston, for the sole reason, that it is catering to English speaking guests. You will need a pickup or taxi to get there as it is in the middle of town. This is a less expensive place. Look at it on the internet by keying in "Hotel Boston, Karlovy Vary, Czech Republic". I am a born Karlsbader, enjoy my beloved mountains and ... take a few breadcrumbs from the table to feed the many HUGE German brown trouts underneath the bridges! --- The hot springs taste lousy but are potent; they dissolve gallstones on a 3-week Spa regimen overseen by a Balneological Doctor of Medicine. Enjoy my hometown and have a noontime meal at the "Egerländer"! You can walk there. Aida -------------------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Frank Slocum <[email protected]> wrote: > Friends: Can anyone make a recommendation about a local hotel in Karlsbad, > perhaps walking distance to main train station. > > Also posssibly a tour assistant to day travel to local outlying village. > > Frank Slocum > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you so much Aida for a beautiful translation. I do not speak German nor Czech, just American. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 94 German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ Today's Topics: 1. Culinary bicycle tours in the borderland Bavaria-Bohemia (Aida Kraus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:22:21 -0700 From: Aida Kraus <[email protected]> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Culinary bicycle tours in the borderland Bavaria-Bohemia To: german-bohemian <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A Story that?s good enough to eat, submitted by Dr. U. Rudofsky andtranslated from German by Aida, source http://www.pragerzeitung.cz/?c_id=10176 Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia have much in common Life between Bavaria and Bohemia is ?booming ",as they say today. Given the many partnerships built on economic, political and cultural levels, and many common privately initiated projects, there is now a lively exchange in the Bavarian-Bohemian region. Negative reports by some writers described that area as a rather "desolate frontier" when they explored the region by taking long hikes or bike rides. There can no longer be any question that his has changed. Tourism has been brisk on both sides of the border and much has been done to further it. There are many similarities between Bohemia and Bavaria. This includes delicious food and a similar beer culture which we can explore in very different ways. A gastronomical exhibition opened at the Deggendorf museum entitled ?Kn?del,Kloss,Knedlik? which means in all three languages. The "three-country project? on the favorite food of Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia was developed in cooperation with the House of Frankish history at the castle and the county Abenberg Museum in Cheb (Eger). True is the motto of "history through our stomachs" to the exhibition numbered in the month of May 1250 visitors, and that is just a beginning. A voyage of discovery about the Franco-Bavarian-Bohemian relations will find that the Bavarians and Franks have a lot more in common with their Bohemian neighbors, as many might have accepted. Over the rim of their cooking pots, this exhibition documents their common history with is exhibited in the museum with items from Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia. The exhibition is largely bilingual (German / Czech), so that invited Czech visitors, also, may confirm the existence of the dumplings and noodles beyond the "dumplings" from their domestic pots. All culinary similarities and subtle differences can be found very convincing when we go hiking or cycling through the Bohemian-Bavarian border and when stopping in comfortable inns with ordering a "snack". The "Zoigl bike path" will let a beer connoisseur's heart beat faster as he can found different varieties of the bottom-fermented, unfiltered beer with natural carbon dioxide, which is brewed in an open brew kettle. These breweries: Kommunbrauereien Eslarn, Falkenberg, Mitterteich, Neuhaus and Windisch Eschenbach are celebrating a nearly 600-year-old brewing tradition. An approximately 115 km long road begins and ends in Mitterteich in Eslarn, where at every stop a fresh Zoigl (stein of beer) awaits the brave cyclist. There is a 30 kilometers long guided bicycle tour which starts every Tuesdays at Sch?nsee in the Oberpfalz (Upper Palatinate). You then cycle through the picturesque Bavarian and Bohemian borderlands and learn a lot about legends, history and curiosities from the Bohemian-Bavarian neighborhood. Also very popular is a 90 km Friendship trail guided by experienced cyclists which starts in Nabburg in the Upper Palatinate Forest and ends in the Bohemian Forest at Hor?ovsk? T?n. There, visitors can take a tour at the mid-13th Century Bishop's Castle. Now the Palace and Park are accessible to visitors?.. And local dumplings as well as beer will await you in every place along the route. "Kn?del, Kloss and Knedlik? (3x dumpling) is a story good enough to eat " City Museum Deggendorf, eastern moat 28, 94469 Deggendorf Opening times: Tue-Sat 10-16 Clock, Sun and holidays 10-17 Clock Cost ?25 for parties of 5 Check for the present exhibition subject at Deggendorf. Reservation: Tourist Office, Tel: 0049-9674-317 ------------------------------ To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Dear All, Has anyone taken an English speaking tour in the Czech Republic? The tour I am referring to is an air conditioned bus with everything preplanned. I am seriously thinking of visiting the fatherland this summer. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. P.S. Unfortunately I do not speak German nor Czech, just American. Moses Major Moses C. Theimer Assistant Professor New Mexico Military Institute Communications Department 101 West College Boulevard Roswell, New Mexico 88201 (505)624-8202 [email protected] www.nmmi.edu ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 94 German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ Today's Topics: 1. Culinary bicycle tours in the borderland Bavaria-Bohemia (Aida Kraus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:22:21 -0700 From: Aida Kraus <[email protected]> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Culinary bicycle tours in the borderland Bavaria-Bohemia To: german-bohemian <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A Story that?s good enough to eat, submitted by Dr. U. Rudofsky andtranslated from German by Aida, source http://www.pragerzeitung.cz/?c_id=10176 Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia have much in common Life between Bavaria and Bohemia is ?booming ",as they say today. Given the many partnerships built on economic, political and cultural levels, and many common privately initiated projects, there is now a lively exchange in the Bavarian-Bohemian region. Negative reports by some writers described that area as a rather "desolate frontier" when they explored the region by taking long hikes or bike rides. There can no longer be any question that his has changed. Tourism has been brisk on both sides of the border and much has been done to further it. There are many similarities between Bohemia and Bavaria. This includes delicious food and a similar beer culture which we can explore in very different ways. A gastronomical exhibition opened at the Deggendorf museum entitled ?Kn?del,Kloss,Knedlik? which means in all three languages. The "three-country project? on the favorite food of Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia was developed in cooperation with the House of Frankish history at the castle and the county Abenberg Museum in Cheb (Eger). True is the motto of "history through our stomachs" to the exhibition numbered in the month of May 1250 visitors, and that is just a beginning. A voyage of discovery about the Franco-Bavarian-Bohemian relations will find that the Bavarians and Franks have a lot more in common with their Bohemian neighbors, as many might have accepted. Over the rim of their cooking pots, this exhibition documents their common history with is exhibited in the museum with items from Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia. The exhibition is largely bilingual (German / Czech), so that invited Czech visitors, also, may confirm the existence of the dumplings and noodles beyond the "dumplings" from their domestic pots. All culinary similarities and subtle differences can be found very convincing when we go hiking or cycling through the Bohemian-Bavarian border and when stopping in comfortable inns with ordering a "snack". The "Zoigl bike path" will let a beer connoisseur's heart beat faster as he can found different varieties of the bottom-fermented, unfiltered beer with natural carbon dioxide, which is brewed in an open brew kettle. These breweries: Kommunbrauereien Eslarn, Falkenberg, Mitterteich, Neuhaus and Windisch Eschenbach are celebrating a nearly 600-year-old brewing tradition. An approximately 115 km long road begins and ends in Mitterteich in Eslarn, where at every stop a fresh Zoigl (stein of beer) awaits the brave cyclist. There is a 30 kilometers long guided bicycle tour which starts every Tuesdays at Sch?nsee in the Oberpfalz (Upper Palatinate). You then cycle through the picturesque Bavarian and Bohemian borderlands and learn a lot about legends, history and curiosities from the Bohemian-Bavarian neighborhood. Also very popular is a 90 km Friendship trail guided by experienced cyclists which starts in Nabburg in the Upper Palatinate Forest and ends in the Bohemian Forest at Hor?ovsk? T?n. There, visitors can take a tour at the mid-13th Century Bishop's Castle. Now the Palace and Park are accessible to visitors?.. And local dumplings as well as beer will await you in every place along the route. "Kn?del, Kloss and Knedlik? (3x dumpling) is a story good enough to eat " City Museum Deggendorf, eastern moat 28, 94469 Deggendorf Opening times: Tue-Sat 10-16 Clock, Sun and holidays 10-17 Clock Cost ?25 for parties of 5 Check for the present exhibition subject at Deggendorf. Reservation: Tourist Office, Tel: 0049-9674-317 ------------------------------ To contact the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GERMAN-BOHEMIAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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You may find important information on this very helpful ARC website http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/topics/genealogy/#individuals Aida

Thanks for that correction/clarification, Aida. Jack ________________________________ From: Aida Kraus <[email protected]> To: [email protected]ootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 8:32:06 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] passenger lists This is a very good list, thank you, but something is very strange here. It might have happened in recent transcription, because you must realize that the passenger list for this ship by the name of "Ems" is dated 1886. They show Galicia, which is correct, as it was part of Austria Hungary, but at the same time, they show Bohemia and Moravia under "Czech Republic". At that time the Czech Republic did not exist, Bohemia and Moravia were provinces of Austria-Hungary. Czechoslovakia was created in 1918 and the Czech Republic was created 1993. I can easily see the confusion this creates among the descendants of Austrian Hungarian citizens to establish their ethnicity. Equally, on this list are a few "Romanians" from Temeswar which was also Austria Hungary, i.e. the Austrian Crown colony Banat, which was predominantly settled by Germans from the Imperium. If they captured American immigrants according to such interpretations, a lot of ethnic Germans arrived here under the label as being Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Russians, Czechs, Serbs, Croats and Slovenians.... and perhaps others. It is, therefore, of utmost importance that the researcher identifies his ancestry using old letters or documents to establish their ethnic background. If they used the same system in the census here later, one might guess that there were far more "German" immigrants in this country than what the demography shows. Aida ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Dr. Jack Schaffer < [email protected]> wrote: > Here is a web site people might find helpful and interesting. > > > > http://www.gjenvick.com/PassengerLists/NorthGermanLloyd/Westbound/1885-06-03-PassengerList-Ems.html > > Jack Schaffer > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a very good list, thank you, but something is very strange here. It might have happened in recent transcription, because you must realize that the passenger list for this ship by the name of "Ems" is dated 1886. They show Galicia, which is correct, as it was part of Austria Hungary, but at the same time, they show Bohemia and Moravia under "Czech Republic". At that time the Czech Republic did not exist, Bohemia and Moravia were provinces of Austria-Hungary. Czechoslovakia was created in 1918 and the Czech Republic was created 1993. I can easily see the confusion this creates among the descendants of Austrian Hungarian citizens to establish their ethnicity. Equally, on this list are a few "Romanians" from Temeswar which was also Austria Hungary, i.e. the Austrian Crown colony Banat, which was predominantly settled by Germans from the Imperium. If they captured American immigrants according to such interpretations, a lot of ethnic Germans arrived here under the label as being Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Russians, Czechs, Serbs, Croats and Slovenians.... and perhaps others. It is, therefore, of utmost importance that the researcher identifies his ancestry using old letters or documents to establish their ethnic background. If they used the same system in the census here later, one might guess that there were far more "German" immigrants in this country than what the demography shows. Aida ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Dr. Jack Schaffer < [email protected]> wrote: > Here is a web site people might find helpful and interesting. > > > > http://www.gjenvick.com/PassengerLists/NorthGermanLloyd/Westbound/1885-06-03-PassengerList-Ems.html > > Jack Schaffer > > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a web site people might find helpful and interesting. http://www.gjenvick.com/PassengerLists/NorthGermanLloyd/Westbound/1885-06-03-PassengerList-Ems.html Jack Schaffer

A Story that’s good enough to eat, submitted by Dr. U. Rudofsky andtranslated from German by Aida, source http://www.pragerzeitung.cz/?c_id=10176 Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia have much in common Life between Bavaria and Bohemia is “booming ",as they say today. Given the many partnerships built on economic, political and cultural levels, and many common privately initiated projects, there is now a lively exchange in the Bavarian-Bohemian region. Negative reports by some writers described that area as a rather "desolate frontier" when they explored the region by taking long hikes or bike rides. There can no longer be any question that his has changed. Tourism has been brisk on both sides of the border and much has been done to further it. There are many similarities between Bohemia and Bavaria. This includes delicious food and a similar beer culture which we can explore in very different ways. A gastronomical exhibition opened at the Deggendorf museum entitled “Knödel,Kloss,Knedlik” which means in all three languages. The "three-country project” on the favorite food of Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia was developed in cooperation with the House of Frankish history at the castle and the county Abenberg Museum in Cheb (Eger). True is the motto of "history through our stomachs" to the exhibition numbered in the month of May 1250 visitors, and that is just a beginning. A voyage of discovery about the Franco-Bavarian-Bohemian relations will find that the Bavarians and Franks have a lot more in common with their Bohemian neighbors, as many might have accepted. Over the rim of their cooking pots, this exhibition documents their common history with is exhibited in the museum with items from Bavaria, Franconia and Bohemia. The exhibition is largely bilingual (German / Czech), so that invited Czech visitors, also, may confirm the existence of the dumplings and noodles beyond the "dumplings" from their domestic pots. All culinary similarities and subtle differences can be found very convincing when we go hiking or cycling through the Bohemian-Bavarian border and when stopping in comfortable inns with ordering a "snack". The "Zoigl bike path" will let a beer connoisseur's heart beat faster as he can found different varieties of the bottom-fermented, unfiltered beer with natural carbon dioxide, which is brewed in an open brew kettle. These breweries: Kommunbrauereien Eslarn, Falkenberg, Mitterteich, Neuhaus and Windisch Eschenbach are celebrating a nearly 600-year-old brewing tradition. An approximately 115 km long road begins and ends in Mitterteich in Eslarn, where at every stop a fresh Zoigl (stein of beer) awaits the brave cyclist. There is a 30 kilometers long guided bicycle tour which starts every Tuesdays at Schönsee in the Oberpfalz (Upper Palatinate). You then cycle through the picturesque Bavarian and Bohemian borderlands and learn a lot about legends, history and curiosities from the Bohemian-Bavarian neighborhood. Also very popular is a 90 km Friendship trail guided by experienced cyclists which starts in Nabburg in the Upper Palatinate Forest and ends in the Bohemian Forest at Horšovský Týn. There, visitors can take a tour at the mid-13th Century Bishop's Castle. Now the Palace and Park are accessible to visitors….. And local dumplings as well as beer will await you in every place along the route. "Knödel, Kloss and Knedlik” (3x dumpling) is a story good enough to eat " City Museum Deggendorf, eastern moat 28, 94469 Deggendorf Opening times: Tue-Sat 10-16 Clock, Sun and holidays 10-17 Clock Cost €25 for parties of 5 Check for the present exhibition subject at Deggendorf. Reservation: Tourist Office, Tel: 0049-9674-317