Bob, I would so love to be there, but we are at our NC home until early March. Do you suppose he would be willing to share his paper with those of us who cannot attend? Thanks. Jack Jack B Schaffer, PhD, ABPP Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone, powered by CREDO Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> Sender: german-bohemian-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:24:08 To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Invitation from the CGSI I recently received a personal invitation from Dan Urban of the CGSI inviting our membership to a program including Professor Diethelm Prowe. I hope that some GBHS members and GBHS mailing-listers will be able to attend. The details of the program are attached below. Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International Quarterly Program at the Minnesota Genealogical Society Saturday, February 11th, 2012 The Lands They Left: A Look at the Societies Which Bohemian, Moravian, Slovak and German Emigrants Left in the 19th Century. Have you wondered why your ancestors chose to leave their homelands for an uncertain future in a new land? The Habsburg lands, from which the Czechs, Moravians, Slovaks, and Germans emigrated, mainly in the second half of the 19th century, were going through major economic, demographic, social, and cultural transformations. Traditional feudal social patterns were still widespread in the countryside, while population growth and early industrialization put new economic pressures on both countryside and rapidly growing towns. At the same time the Habsburg state, which had been rapidly modernizing under the enlightened monarchs of the later 18th century, was eager to industrialize but found it difficult to cope with the consequences of urbanization and education. This program will look at the conditions and changes in our ancestor's homelands which influenced their decisions to emigrate. We want to look at the remarkable cultural and political changes that led to the national awakening and look at the ways in which both new opportunities and pressures favored the spurt of migration, above all to the United States. 12:30 Registration 1 :00 Announcements and Welco e 1:15 Program 2:15 Break for Refreshments, networking and Browsin 2:45 Reconvene Program Presenter: Dr. Diethelm Prowe is the Laird e rofe sor of History, emeritus, at Carleton College, Northfield, MN where he taught modern European history for 42 years. From 2001 to 2011 he served as editor of German Studies Review, which publishes articles on history, literature, politics, and interdisciplinary topics relating to the German speaking areas of Europe. While at Carleton he regularly taught a course on the history of Eastern-Central Europe, and in the fall of 2000 he directed the ACM (Associated Colleges of the Midwest) Central European Studies Program in Olomouc, Czech Republic. Since then he has spent three shorter periods doing archival research on the interaction of Czechs and Germans in Moravia in the 19th century, primarily in Olomouc and Brno. A native of Germany, he immigrated to the United States with his family at age 16 and has kept in touch with centra Europe since then, with a first visit to Czechoslovakia and then-communist East Eastern Europe in 1971 . Location: Minnesota Genealogical Society First Floor Auditorium 1185 Concord Street N. St. Paul, Minnesota 55075 Saturday, February 11th, 2012 German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I neglected to include the following: The suggested donation is $5 On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:07 AM, lindat06@comcast.net wrote: > > Bob, I've been looking all over the CGSI site, and I don't see a listing of the cost for the program. It's their quarterly meeting, but is it open to non-CGSI members? > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will echo the interest in securing a recording or transcript of Professor Diethelm Prowe's program entitled The Lands They Left: A Look at the Societies Which Bohemian, Moravian, Slovak and German Emigrants Left in the 19th Century. I would happily pay for such information. Regards, Jason Neumann Cincinnati, Ohio

This program sounds GREAT. But Maine to Minnesota is not in the travel budget. Like Helen, others might appreciate it being taped. Ya could sell it to interested parties as a fund raiser. Hint - hint.......... Elaine -----Original Message----- >From: HELEN M WHITE <hwhitemc8309@gmail.com> >Sent: Jan 4, 2012 11:33 PM >To: german-bohemian@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Invitation from the CGSI > >Would it be remotely possible to record this program and make it >available to we old folks that cannot travel anymore? > > > > >On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> wrote: >> I recently received  a personal invitation from Dan Urban of the CGSI inviting >>  our membership to  a program including Professor Diethelm Prowe. >>  I hope that some GBHS members and  GBHS mailing-listers will be able to attend. >> The details of the program are attached below. >> >> Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International >> Quarterly Program at the Minnesota Genealogical Society >> Saturday, February 11th, 2012 >> The Lands They Left: A Look at the Societies Which Bohemian, Moravian, Slovak and German Emigrants Left in the 19th Century. >> >> Have you wondered why your ancestors chose to leave their homelands for an uncertain future in a new land? The Habsburg lands, from which the Czechs, Moravians, Slovaks, and Germans emigrated, mainly in the second half of the 19th century, were going through major economic, demographic, social, and cultural transformations. Traditional feudal social patterns were still widespread in the countryside, while population growth and early industrialization put new economic pressures on both countryside and rapidly growing towns. At the same time the Habsburg state, which had been rapidly modernizing under the enlightened monarchs of the later 18th century, was eager to industrialize but found it difficult to cope with the consequences of urbanization and education. >> This program will look at the conditions and changes in our ancestor's homelands which influenced their decisions to emigrate. We want to look at the remarkable cultural and political changes that led to the national awakening and look at the ways in which both new opportunities and pressures favored the spurt of migration, above all to the United States. >> >> 12:30 Registration >> 1 :00 Announcements and Welco e >> 1:15 Program >> 2:15 Break for Refreshments, networking and Browsin >> 2:45 Reconvene  Program >> >> Presenter: Dr. Diethelm Prowe is the Laird e rofe sor of History, emeritus, at Carleton College, Northfield, MN >> where he taught modern European history for 42 years. From 2001 to 2011 he served as editor of German Studies Review, which publishes articles on history, literature, politics, and interdisciplinary topics relating to the German speaking areas of Europe. While at Carleton he regularly taught a course on the history of Eastern-Central Europe, and in the fall of 2000 he directed the ACM (Associated Colleges of the Midwest) Central European Studies Program in Olomouc, Czech Republic. Since then he has spent three shorter periods doing archival research on the interaction of Czechs and Germans in Moravia in the 19th century, primarily in Olomouc and Brno. A native of Germany, he immigrated to the United States with his family at age 16 and has kept in touch with centra Europe since then, with a first visit to Czechoslovakia and then-communist East Eastern Europe in 1971 . >> Location: Minnesota Genealogical Society >> First Floor Auditorium >> 1185 Concord Street N. >> St. Paul, Minnesota 55075 >> Saturday, February 11th, 2012 >> >> >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >hwhitemc > >"Live simply; Care deeply; Love generously;" and most importantly, >"Speak kindly."  ...by Sam @ MTPR > >German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would it be remotely possible to record this program and make it available to we old folks that cannot travel anymore? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> wrote: > I recently received  a personal invitation from Dan Urban of the CGSI inviting >  our membership to  a program including Professor Diethelm Prowe. >  I hope that some GBHS members and  GBHS mailing-listers will be able to attend. > The details of the program are attached below. > > Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International > Quarterly Program at the Minnesota Genealogical Society > Saturday, February 11th, 2012 > The Lands They Left: A Look at the Societies Which Bohemian, Moravian, Slovak and German Emigrants Left in the 19th Century. > > Have you wondered why your ancestors chose to leave their homelands for an uncertain future in a new land? The Habsburg lands, from which the Czechs, Moravians, Slovaks, and Germans emigrated, mainly in the second half of the 19th century, were going through major economic, demographic, social, and cultural transformations. Traditional feudal social patterns were still widespread in the countryside, while population growth and early industrialization put new economic pressures on both countryside and rapidly growing towns. At the same time the Habsburg state, which had been rapidly modernizing under the enlightened monarchs of the later 18th century, was eager to industrialize but found it difficult to cope with the consequences of urbanization and education. > This program will look at the conditions and changes in our ancestor's homelands which influenced their decisions to emigrate. We want to look at the remarkable cultural and political changes that led to the national awakening and look at the ways in which both new opportunities and pressures favored the spurt of migration, above all to the United States. > > 12:30 Registration > 1 :00 Announcements and Welco e > 1:15 Program > 2:15 Break for Refreshments, networking and Browsin > 2:45 Reconvene  Program > > Presenter: Dr. Diethelm Prowe is the Laird e rofe sor of History, emeritus, at Carleton College, Northfield, MN > where he taught modern European history for 42 years. From 2001 to 2011 he served as editor of German Studies Review, which publishes articles on history, literature, politics, and interdisciplinary topics relating to the German speaking areas of Europe. While at Carleton he regularly taught a course on the history of Eastern-Central Europe, and in the fall of 2000 he directed the ACM (Associated Colleges of the Midwest) Central European Studies Program in Olomouc, Czech Republic. Since then he has spent three shorter periods doing archival research on the interaction of Czechs and Germans in Moravia in the 19th century, primarily in Olomouc and Brno. A native of Germany, he immigrated to the United States with his family at age 16 and has kept in touch with centra Europe since then, with a first visit to Czechoslovakia and then-communist East Eastern Europe in 1971 . > Location: Minnesota Genealogical Society > First Floor Auditorium > 1185 Concord Street N. > St. Paul, Minnesota 55075 > Saturday, February 11th, 2012 > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- hwhitemc "Live simply; Care deeply; Love generously;" and most importantly, "Speak kindly."  ...by Sam @ MTPR

I recently received a personal invitation from Dan Urban of the CGSI inviting our membership to a program including Professor Diethelm Prowe. I hope that some GBHS members and GBHS mailing-listers will be able to attend. The details of the program are attached below. Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International Quarterly Program at the Minnesota Genealogical Society Saturday, February 11th, 2012 The Lands They Left: A Look at the Societies Which Bohemian, Moravian, Slovak and German Emigrants Left in the 19th Century. Have you wondered why your ancestors chose to leave their homelands for an uncertain future in a new land? The Habsburg lands, from which the Czechs, Moravians, Slovaks, and Germans emigrated, mainly in the second half of the 19th century, were going through major economic, demographic, social, and cultural transformations. Traditional feudal social patterns were still widespread in the countryside, while population growth and early industrialization put new economic pressures on both countryside and rapidly growing towns. At the same time the Habsburg state, which had been rapidly modernizing under the enlightened monarchs of the later 18th century, was eager to industrialize but found it difficult to cope with the consequences of urbanization and education. This program will look at the conditions and changes in our ancestor's homelands which influenced their decisions to emigrate. We want to look at the remarkable cultural and political changes that led to the national awakening and look at the ways in which both new opportunities and pressures favored the spurt of migration, above all to the United States. 12:30 Registration 1 :00 Announcements and Welco e 1:15 Program 2:15 Break for Refreshments, networking and Browsin 2:45 Reconvene Program Presenter: Dr. Diethelm Prowe is the Laird e rofe sor of History, emeritus, at Carleton College, Northfield, MN where he taught modern European history for 42 years. From 2001 to 2011 he served as editor of German Studies Review, which publishes articles on history, literature, politics, and interdisciplinary topics relating to the German speaking areas of Europe. While at Carleton he regularly taught a course on the history of Eastern-Central Europe, and in the fall of 2000 he directed the ACM (Associated Colleges of the Midwest) Central European Studies Program in Olomouc, Czech Republic. Since then he has spent three shorter periods doing archival research on the interaction of Czechs and Germans in Moravia in the 19th century, primarily in Olomouc and Brno. A native of Germany, he immigrated to the United States with his family at age 16 and has kept in touch with centra Europe since then, with a first visit to Czechoslovakia and then-communist East Eastern Europe in 1971 . Location: Minnesota Genealogical Society First Floor Auditorium 1185 Concord Street N. St. Paul, Minnesota 55075 Saturday, February 11th, 2012

From: Biddy Orr [mailto:biddyt4@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 30 December 2011 2:51 p.m. To: 'german-bohemian@rootsweb.com' Subject: Aida Please, accept my very deepest sympathies in the sad loss of your husband, Aida. Biddy Orr from NZ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6756 (20111230) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6759 (20120101) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6762 (20120102) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6765 (20120103) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

My sympathy to Aida on the recent death of her husband. Aida's wealth of knowledge has been of help to so many of us on the list, it feels like sending condolences to a friend--even though we have never met. May happy memories bring you comfort, Aida. Bobby Egelston On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM, <r_champion@comcast.net> wrote: > Sincere condolences to Aida and her family. If Ludwig was anywhere near as > generous, intelligent and wonderful as Aida, he will be sorey missed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> > To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:17:19 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida Kraus's Husband Passed Away > > List members: > This is to let you know that Ludwig Kraus, the husband of > list member Aida Kraus passed away yesterday at their home in > Birch Bay, Washington. He died of an apparent heart attack. > As all of you well know, Aida has been a very valuable member of our > mailing list and has become a very dear friend. > Our thoughts and prayers are with her in this time of grief. > Bob Paulson > GBHS Founder > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I, too, add to the growing list of condolences. We have never met but I have so enjoyed your comments, etc about our ancestors homeland, The Czech Republic. May the good wishes of all the list members help you in this difficult time! God love you! Florence Crane

Florence, Because an imperial-royal edict from 1793 was made an judicial autopsy, which approved, that the dead body from Josef Ambroß, farmer from Ponedraz No. 88, deceased 15. Oct 1838 on diphtheria, gangrenous (german: brandige Bräune) can be buried, according to christian/catholic ritus. Given through commission on 18 Oktober 1838. Here again in german, how I could read this: Über die infolge k.k. kreis: Erlaßes vom 19. Oktober 1793 vorgenommene gerichtliche Obduction wird bestätigt, daß die Leiche des am 15. October 1838 an der brandigen Bräune ver- storbenen Josef Ambross, Bauers aus Ponedrasch 88 nach christ. und kath. Ritus beerdigt werden könne. Gegeben von Komissionwegen am 18. Oktober 1838. Hope it is something precise translated. Best wishes Lars Am 02.01.2012 23:38, schrieb FLORENCE CRANE: > Dear list, > Let me start all over again. This is in the Trebon Archives that are > online. This record shows in Image 234, Bk 10 - Lumnice nad Luznice. > > This URL is the one I am looking at: > > http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/DA?lang=en&menu=3&id=5341 > > There is a long line of notes written with this record. I'd like to know > what they are telling; but my translation skill isn't good enough for that. > Any help anyone cane offer will be greatly appreciated. > > Florence > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web sitehttp://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toGERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you very much. It seemed a bit unusual to see such a long detailed note! I now know the cause of his death, at such a young age and so soon after marriage. I was fortunate to happen across this particular Joseph; and have been amazed about so much that I have found in these Czech records. I sure do wish I were able to read more of them. I do pretty well with the death, birth, etc but beyond that it is too much for me. Florence On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:13 AM, HANUSH@gmx.de <HANUSH@gmx.de> wrote: > > Florence, > > Because an imperial-royal edict from 1793 was made an judicial autopsy, > which approved, that > the dead body from Josef Ambroß, farmer from Ponedraz No. 88, deceased > 15. Oct 1838 on > diphtheria, gangrenous (german: brandige Bräune) can be buried, > according to christian/catholic > ritus. > Given through commission on 18 Oktober 1838. > Here again in german, how I could read this: > Über die infolge k.k. kreis: Erlaßes vom 19. Oktober 1793 vorgenommene > gerichtliche Obduction > wird bestätigt, daß die Leiche des am 15. October 1838 an der brandigen > Bräune ver- > storbenen Josef Ambross, Bauers aus Ponedrasch 88 nach christ. und kath. > Ritus beerdigt > werden könne. > Gegeben von Komissionwegen am 18. Oktober 1838. > > Hope it is something precise translated. > Best wishes > Lars > > > > Am 02.01.2012 23:38, schrieb FLORENCE CRANE: > > Dear list, > > Let me start all over again. This is in the Trebon Archives that are > > online. This record shows in Image 234, Bk 10 - Lumnice nad Luznice. > > > > This URL is the one I am looking at: > > > > http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/DA?lang=en&menu=3&id=5341 > > > > There is a long line of notes written with this record. I'd like to know > > what they are telling; but my translation skill isn't good enough for > that. > > Any help anyone cane offer will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Florence > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web sitehttp://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > toGERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sincere condolences to Aida and her family. If Ludwig was anywhere near as generous, intelligent and wonderful as Aida, he will be sorey missed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:17:19 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida Kraus's Husband Passed Away List members: This is to let you know that Ludwig Kraus, the husband of list member Aida Kraus passed away yesterday at their home in Birch Bay, Washington. He died of an apparent heart attack. As all of you well know, Aida has been a very valuable member of our mailing list and has become a very dear friend. Our thoughts and prayers are with her in this time of grief. Bob Paulson GBHS Founder German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear list, Let me start all over again. This is in the Trebon Archives that are online. This record shows in Image 234, Bk 10 - Lumnice nad Luznice. This URL is the one I am looking at: http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/DA?lang=en&menu=3&id=5341 There is a long line of notes written with this record. I'd like to know what they are telling; but my translation skill isn't good enough for that. Any help anyone cane offer will be greatly appreciated. Florence

Aida, My deepest sympathy for you and your family. May you comfort in your memories and peace in the love and suport of your many, many friends. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Robert Paulson <rpaulgb@comcast.net> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2011 9:21 am Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida Kraus's Husband Passed Away List members: his is to let you know that Ludwig Kraus, the husband of ist member Aida Kraus passed away yesterday at their home in irch Bay, Washington. He died of an apparent heart attack. s all of you well know, Aida has been a very valuable member of our ailing list and has become a very dear friend. ur thoughts and prayers are with her in this time of grief. ob Paulson BHS Founder erman-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: FLORENCE CRANE <crane1068@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM Subject: Joseph Ambroz death, 15 Oct 1838 @ Ponedraz #7 To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Could anyone transcribe the notes that are added to this death record? Image 34, Book 10 Lomnice nad Luznice 1779-1894. Catholic Church Registers Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Florence Sorry, I should have stated that this record was in the Trebon Archives that are online. Thank YOu, Florence

Could anyone transcribe the notes that are added to this death record? Image 34, Book 10 Lomnice nad Luznice 1779-1894. Catholic Church Registers Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Florence

Dear Aida May the well wishes of friends, near and far, (including those, like me, who are the more silent members of this mailing list) be of some comfort to you in this time of personal loss. May there be many good memories to give you strength and peace. With greatest sympathy, Susan McNelley -----Original Message----- From: german-bohemian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:german-bohemian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Paulson Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:17 AM To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Aida Kraus's Husband Passed Away List members: This is to let you know that Ludwig Kraus, the husband of list member Aida Kraus passed away yesterday at their home in Birch Bay, Washington. He died of an apparent heart attack. As all of you well know, Aida has been a very valuable member of our mailing list and has become a very dear friend. Our thoughts and prayers are with her in this time of grief. Bob Paulson GBHS Founder German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aida, We regret to hear about the unexpected passing of Ludwig. You now can remember him with the many happy memories you have of him. The Gulden's, Jerry and Shirleen

Aida, I'm so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Brandt

Aida, You have become like one of the family in our genealogical circle. My heart goes out to you at this difficult time. And my prayers and thoughts are with you. Celine