I guess the word has not percolated well enough. SOAR has all the surname charts available through AHSGR in the SOAR database. Doris Evans did an incredible amount of work indexing all the names in the charts so that if you search in SOAR your surname will pop up in whatever chart it is appears in. If you haven't looked at SOAR lately - you should check out all the additions that went in before the summer convention. SOAR is available from the AHSGR website ahsgr.org. Lauren Brantner SOAR Committee Member --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.