Ken's mention of his grandmother living to 90 makes me wonder about the longevity of the adults who immigrated from the Volga. My immigrant grandmother lived to be 100. My immigrant grandfather died younger but he drank a lot of alcohol all his life and died of cancer of the pancreas at 79. We always thought my grandmother lived so long because she worked so hard all her life since she was poor in Russia and relatively poor here in the US too. Did other adult immigrants live especially long lives here too? I wonder if their hard lives in Russia contributed to longevity. I'm not including the younger immigrants or the children born here in the US because their lives would be different since they would be affected by the American way of life at an early age. I think the average life expectancy in the US at this time is 79. But it looks like a lot of the German-Russian immigrants live a lot longer than that. Just wondering, Sally (Katharinenstadt, Wiesenmueller) Edgewood, WA > KLpelzel@aol.com wrote: > Carla, Thanks for the recipe! Hope to try it out. I doubt if this would > be included in a Nutrasystem diet! But then, my Grandmother who lived to > 90 made this kind of stuff daily, ( Gee maybe she would have lived to 91 > on the Nutrasystem stuff!) > > Ken

I don't think it's just German Russians. My grandfather, of German parents, born in Wisconsin, lived to 94. His wife, born in Germany, lived to be 1 month short of 100. My GR grandmother lived to be 75, and her second husband a GR lived to be 84. My grandfather, a GR, died of Spanish influenza in 1918. I know there have been all kinds of studies about this, and I don't know what the conclusions are. I think the environment has a lot to do with it. It's hard to say about things like how you eat, and whether you drink. There are always the exceptions. Gary Martens On 9 Aug 2007 at 8:23, S. Zitzer wrote: > > Ken's mention of his grandmother living to 90 makes me wonder > about the longevity of the adults who immigrated from the Volga. > My immigrant grandmother lived to be 100. My immigrant grandfather > died younger but he drank a lot of alcohol all his life and died > of cancer of the pancreas at 79. > > We always thought my grandmother lived so long because she > worked so hard all her life since she was poor in Russia and > relatively poor here in the US too. > > Did other adult immigrants live especially long lives here > too? I wonder if their hard lives in Russia contributed > to longevity. > > I'm not including the younger immigrants or the children > born here in the US because their lives would be different > since they would be affected by the American way of life > at an early age. > > I think the average life expectancy in the US at this time > is 79. But it looks like a lot of the German-Russian > immigrants live a lot longer than that. > > Just wondering, > > Sally (Katharinenstadt, Wiesenmueller) > Edgewood, WA > > > KLpelzel@aol.com wrote: > > > Carla, Thanks for the recipe! Hope to try it out. I doubt if this would > > be included in a Nutrasystem diet! But then, my Grandmother who lived to > > 90 made this kind of stuff daily, ( Gee maybe she would have lived to 91 > > on the Nutrasystem stuff!) > > > > Ken > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A fine day to all! I wonder if all those home-made foods contributed to good health in the Volga German communities. Some home-made foods I grew up with: head cheese, pig's feet, sausage, runzas, cabbage rolls, canned suckers, pickled herring, dill pickles, sauerkraut, egg noodles, etc. My dad learned to make these from his parents, both of whom grew up in Bangert, near the Volga. The sauerkraut crock was used each year in the cellar until Kivimaki the plumber fell into it while working on pipes. If he wrung his clothes out when he got home, there would have been a lot of cleansing sauerkraut juice. (juice by the way is sold at stores in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area) The canned suckers, caught with nets in cold water creeks, looked and tasted like Pacific Salmon. Mind you, growing up in the wilds and waters of Northwestern Ontario, one lived on a regular healthy diet of ducks, venison (deer) moose, partridge (ruffed grouse) prairie chicken, rabbit, and fresh water fish such as walleye (pickerel) bass, perch, and northerns (jackfish). No nasty chemicals in those foods. As for being thirsty....just stick your hand into a fast moving creek, or right into a lake of the Rainy Lake chain. Not today, of course. the best to all, Cliff Huber Kakabeka Falls ON Canada