Paula, You've cleared up my confusion :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net ---- Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> wrote: ============= Kevin, Frank, Sharon, Thank you for sending the PDF file. I've looked it over pretty carefully and I really don't think these are mine and Sharon's Wittman family. However, with Rosemary's observation I believe she may have solved my mystery. I wasn't aware that Heinrich was the first child of Peter and Katherine's to be born in Victoria. With that information I started looking at some census records and passenger lists this afternoon. Guess who I found on a ship named Rhein which arrived at Baltimore on Oct. 03, 1887. Peter Wittman age 31 a workman from Russia traveling to the USA with his wife Cath. age 32, daughter Anna age 7, Johannes age 5, and baby Peter age 6 mo. I also located the family living In Rush County on the Kansas 1895 census and the US 1900 census. Anna is still with the family in 1900 but gone in 1905 and appears on the 1905 KS census with John Schupman living in Rush Co. This squares with my Mom's recollection that the Schupman's were from Liebenthal. I checked with her today. She recalls them coming to Marienthal when she was just a young child. She thought they came to see Kate Wittman because she was sick. Thanks Rosemany for being so observant. Anyone have any thoughts on this. Paula ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Have a great day :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net