Good points made Vera. I am very willing to pay someone for information such as someone having a Pleve chart that directly ties to my GV family. I think it only proper pay for that kind of information. I had looked at one Pleve chart on one of the family names I am searching but it didn't tie to any of my family. I was very disappointed and was willing to pay $100 or so toward the amount the person had paid Mr. Pleve had it tied in. Dick Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Beljakova" <atacama@global.co.za> To: <ger-volga-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: [GV] different types of copyright > Hi all, > There are different copyright rules around - and the > Russian copyright > is different. All this work and the charts originate from > Russia - so > you need to look at Russian copyright laws. > > You can copyright invention and creative art and things > that your mind > created and conclusions that you reach from your > esearch - or > anybody's research. > [ Your research proves, e.g. that Peter the Great's real > father was a > Red Indian. ] You can't copyright facts and figures. > Only your > interpretation of them can be copyrighted. > > Did Pleve copyright his work? Don't forget, most of his > research was > sub-contracted to his students. > > That said, all my charts from Russia and photocopies from > the archives > are copyrighted. Russian masterpieces or old masters are > copyrighted by > the museums - but actually, all it means is that the > museum /art gallery > holds the copyright (not to the original work) but to the > image/photo > that they made and sold to you. You buy the copyright to > use their > photo of an old master in your art book, eg. > > Same with the archives. The archives photocopy stuff for > me and those > 'photocopies' are copyrighted. You can take the info and > use it, of > course, for your own research. > > I've just pulled off my bookshelf Alexander > Solchenitsyn's books in > English translation. The copyright of the novels belong > to the author. > The translator holds the copyright to his translation of > the novels. > The publishing house that paid the author and the > translator holds > NOTHING. > > However, in Russia, lots of books give you 3 copyrights: > authors, translators and publishers or, e.g., the academic > institution > which published the research ! > > I think the problem here on the list is > - some want to share everything in a state of generous > euphoria, whole > others > - having invested a ton of time and money, want to > recuperate > at least some funds, not because they are greedy, but > because they wish > to recycle the income into further research. > > ...my problem is, that while I do not mind sharing with my > nearest and > dearest who have supported me in my efforts, what do I do > with those > 'cousins' who have been singularly unresponsive, uncaring, > uncommunicative - and now expect the same handouts from me > as those who > really tried to help me along the way ??? > > I always admire all those of you who publish books for > sale. > My lot of relatives and friends wouldn't dream to spending > a penny on my > lifelong efforts, believing that it is their due - > Since they are blood relatives, they do believe they have > a right to > ownership, even if I send about 10 yrs and trace us my to > Mary > Magdalena. > > What to do in my case ? Vera > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 8/2/2007 > 2:22 PM > >