A fine day to all! Thanks go out to those who have contributed wisely and positively to the extended and worthy discussion on genealogy and copyrights. I'm sure many of us have learned a thing or two. Most amateur researchers and family historians have been very kind in sharing material over the years...a network of sharing. In 1996, I had commissioned Dr. Pleve to research the Hubers of Bangert in Russia. The resulting pedigree chart has two distinct Huber families which settled in the village in 1765. One, my gang, (Stephan Huber) originated from Grimmelfingen near Ulm, Wurttemburg, the other (Johann Huber) near Frankfort in Hesse. The California AHSGR in Fresno has a copy. For further information, give a shout. I don't mind checking for possible links and provide family data. regards Cliff Huber Kakabeka Falls ON Canada