Hi All, I was hoping that someone might be able to help shed new light on an old problem. I have been working on the Baumgartner family that lived in Volmer. Originally I was thinking that the Baumgartner families found in Volmer, Pfeifer and Husaren were all related. I still think they might be, but the evidence that I have is not adding up. Christoph Baumgartner is listed in the Kulburg list arriving to Oranienbaum on May 4, 1766. He is a catholic farmer from Danzig, no age given. Listed with him is his wife; Anna Maria (no surname or age), a daughter; Dorothea age 17, and a son; Solomon age 8. Christoph Baumgartner is listed in the Original Settlers List for Husaren on Feb 17, 1767. It lists him as 51 years old and a catholic farmer from Marienburg, Poland. Listed with him is his wife Anna Maria (47), and son Solomon (9). Soloman is found in the 1798 & 1834 Husaren Census documents as Samuel. There is no doubt that this is the same family. Popular belief currently is that the Baumgartner families found in Pfeifer and Volmer are from the above family. I am not sure if this is true. In the Volmer 1798 Census #20 Christoph Baumgartner (38) is found married to Maria Wagner (36). He is listed as being from Pfeifer and she is from Kamenka. I confirmed with the 1775 Kamenka Census that her information is correct. They have 8 children with the first one being born in 1780. If Christoph was a son of the above Christioph why is he not listed in the Kulburg List or the OSL for Husaren? If he was born after the OSL was recorded he would have been 14 years old at the time of his first child's birth. That can't be right. The same goes for the Heinrich Baumgartner that is found in the 1798 Pfeifer Census. Since Christopher from Volmer is listed as being from Pfeifer I assume that at least these two are related. Probably brothers. Heinrich Baumgartner is the name found in the 1798 Pfeifer Census, but no age is listed for him. It is his wife that is listed. She is found in the household of Peter Sommer #54. Her children are listed as step children to her new husband, Peter Sommer and Heinrich Baumgartner is listed as their father. Again, given the birth year of their first child; Heinrich would have had to have been born before any Original Settlers List. If he was born after 1767 he too would be about 14 years old at the time of his 1st child's birth. So this got me thinking that maybe Christoph from Volmer (originally from Pfeifer) and Heinrich from Pfeifer were brothers and maybe they could have been nephews of the original Christoph from Husaren. I scoured the Kulberg List and the OSL for Husaren, Pfeifer, Volmer and Kamenka for any sign of two brothers named Christoph and Heinrich as being someone's stepsons or even orphans. I came up with nothing. So I also have considered that maybe Christoph from Volmer (originally from Pfeifer) and Heinrich who died in Pfeifer are from the Baumgartner's that originally settled in Anton. Is there anyone who can check the Original Settlers list for Anton? This way I can at least count this out or even make a confirmation. I don't know what else to do, or where else to look. Any ideas???? Thanks for reading all of this and best wishes to all of you, Angela Gartner www.volmervillage.com angela.gartner@telus.net