Could you both please take this argument to a different forum? I really don't think this is the place. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Bill Pickelhaupt <billpick11@gmail.com>wrote: > How do you know what I said or thought unless you had someone pose and > gather my emails and take it to you folks? The conscription project > was not going to fruitful, so I went to projects that were. > > Answer my questions. > > BP > > Sent from my HTC Inspire(tm) 4G on AT&T > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Kevin Rupp" <volgagerman@ruraltel.net> > To: "Bill Pickelhaupt" <billpick11@gmail.com>, > "ger-volga@rootsweb.com" <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GV] Response > Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 4:04 pm > > > > > > > Mr. Pickelhaupt, You were hardly on there long enough to learn anything. > Once you found out that we were not going to totally bankroll your project, > you ditched the board and have been bad-mouthing us ever sense. > > Mr. Pickelhaupt, I suggest that you get over it and get on with your life > and stop boring these people with you whining. > > > Kevin Rupp > volgagerman@ruraltel.net > krupp@ruraltel.net > www.volgagerman.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Bill Pickelhaupt > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 2:53 PM > To: GER-VOLGA-L > Subject: [GV] Response > > I served for one meeting of the board. It was obvious I could accomplish > more outside the board than on the board, so I left. > > A bill was paid by AHSGR for translation services - Rick Rye was going to > accompany me, but health issues prevented his travel. This was five years > ago. I was out the cost of his airline ticket, which was not a problem. It > was necessary to employ a translator, however, in the attempt to find > conscription records related to Germans from the Volga, since I can not > read handwritten Russian. Talk about a Faustian bargain! No records were > found, and I moved on to other projects after my departure from the board: > translation of VG histories of Protestant villages, research in > *Mittheilungen > und Nachrichten, *translation of Pastor Frederich Dsirne's history of the > Volga-German colonies in Russia, etc. Those items have nothing to do with > LDS. > > BTW, the 1850 and 1857 census data which I did find in Salt Lake City was > given by me to Brent Mai. I understand he has translated some of these > census records (I am told some census records he gets are directly from > Russian archives), and those village census records are available for > purchase in the AHSGR bookstore. That is fine with me. Let's see, I paid > for my trip from Los Angeles, where I lived at the time, to Salt Lake City, > my hotel room and meals in Salt Lake City and gave away the fruits of my > discovery. And AHSGR makes some money. Fine with me, because it benefits a > large number of researchers. And I do not hold copyright on any of that > material. > > As I said, the annotated Kontora cases are available online. Only the > titles and an internal numbering system seem to have survived. > > I am not fine with my copyrighted work being stolen. As webmaster, Mr. > Rupp, it seems you would be in an excellent position to have posted my work > to the AHSGR website. Is that the case? A question, not an accusation. > > There has been collection of my emails by an individual posing as someone > disgruntled with AHSGR, gathering my words and running to the board to pass > my emails around. Did you coordinate that effort? I would like to know who > did coordinate that. Diane did tell me this was going on. People have to be > very insecure to worry about what I think. > > The move to give SOAR obituaries to LDS' familysearch.org website is a > positive move. > Bill Pickelhaupt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Amen! Just agree to disagree and grow up! Darnell Dingle -------------------------------------------------- From: "Peg Goodrich" <goodrichpr@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 3:19 PM To: "Bill Pickelhaupt" <billpick11@gmail.com> Cc: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GV] Response > Could you both please take this argument to a different forum? I really > don't think this is the place. > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Bill Pickelhaupt > <billpick11@gmail.com>wrote: > >> How do you know what I said or thought unless you had someone pose and >> gather my emails and take it to you folks? The conscription project >> was not going to fruitful, so I went to projects that were. >> >> Answer my questions. >> >> BP >> >> Sent from my HTC Inspire(tm) 4G on AT&T >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Kevin Rupp" <volgagerman@ruraltel.net> >> To: "Bill Pickelhaupt" <billpick11@gmail.com>, >> "ger-volga@rootsweb.com" <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [GV] Response >> Date: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 4:04 pm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mr. Pickelhaupt, You were hardly on there long enough to learn anything. >> Once you found out that we were not going to totally bankroll your >> project, >> you ditched the board and have been bad-mouthing us ever sense. >> >> Mr. Pickelhaupt, I suggest that you get over it and get on with your life >> and stop boring these people with you whining. >> >> >> Kevin Rupp >> volgagerman@ruraltel.net >> krupp@ruraltel.net >> www.volgagerman.net >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Bill Pickelhaupt >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 2:53 PM >> To: GER-VOLGA-L >> Subject: [GV] Response >> >> I served for one meeting of the board. It was obvious I could accomplish >> more outside the board than on the board, so I left. >> >> A bill was paid by AHSGR for translation services - Rick Rye was going to >> accompany me, but health issues prevented his travel. This was five years >> ago. I was out the cost of his airline ticket, which was not a problem. >> It >> was necessary to employ a translator, however, in the attempt to find >> conscription records related to Germans from the Volga, since I can not >> read handwritten Russian. Talk about a Faustian bargain! No records were >> found, and I moved on to other projects after my departure from the >> board: >> translation of VG histories of Protestant villages, research in >> *Mittheilungen >> und Nachrichten, *translation of Pastor Frederich Dsirne's history of the >> Volga-German colonies in Russia, etc. Those items have nothing to do with >> LDS. >> >> BTW, the 1850 and 1857 census data which I did find in Salt Lake City was >> given by me to Brent Mai. I understand he has translated some of these >> census records (I am told some census records he gets are directly from >> Russian archives), and those village census records are available for >> purchase in the AHSGR bookstore. That is fine with me. Let's see, I paid >> for my trip from Los Angeles, where I lived at the time, to Salt Lake >> City, >> my hotel room and meals in Salt Lake City and gave away the fruits of my >> discovery. And AHSGR makes some money. Fine with me, because it benefits >> a >> large number of researchers. And I do not hold copyright on any of that >> material. >> >> As I said, the annotated Kontora cases are available online. Only the >> titles and an internal numbering system seem to have survived. >> >> I am not fine with my copyrighted work being stolen. As webmaster, Mr. >> Rupp, it seems you would be in an excellent position to have posted my >> work >> to the AHSGR website. Is that the case? A question, not an accusation. >> >> There has been collection of my emails by an individual posing as someone >> disgruntled with AHSGR, gathering my words and running to the board to >> pass >> my emails around. Did you coordinate that effort? I would like to know >> who >> did coordinate that. Diane did tell me this was going on. People have to >> be >> very insecure to worry about what I think. >> >> The move to give SOAR obituaries to LDS' familysearch.org website is a >> positive move. >> Bill Pickelhaupt >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message