I have my father's naturalization certificate and it says "former nationality, German." He was born in Germany in 1913 after my grandparents left Norka, Russia. The certificate was issued in 1938 when I was 5. I remember waiting in the car with my mother for him when he was attending citizenship classes. I'm assuming that he and my grandfather became citizens at the same time, because they have same necktie on in their citizenship photos. Sadly, I don't have a copy of my grandfather's naturalization certificate. Marven Weitzel On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:22:24 -0500 "Judith" <[email protected]> writes: > My GGGrandfathers' says the same on the Naturalization Cert. They > needed to > be in the US for at least 5 yrs and then 1 yr. in the State where > they lived > and intended on staying permanently here. Did they have to take a > test like > now????? Anyone > > Judith > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of S. Zitzer > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:55 AM > To: frank jacobs > Cc: List > Subject: Re: [GV] A few other oaths > > > My question is when or ever were they citizens of Russia? > > You story is about when the were becoming an American citizen. I > have a > copy of my Grandfather's naturalization certificate. It doesn't say > > anything about renouncing Russia, but it says he was previously a > "subject > of the present government of Russia". There were two words to choose > from > -- "citizen" and "subject" of Russia. They crossed out "citizen" > and left > "subject'. > > This was in Portland, Oregon. His naturalization date was 21 May > 1918. > So that was the day he became a citizen of the US. > > It's interesting that they did not call him a citizen of Russia > but > rather a "subject" of Russia. > > Did Russia have different levels of "citizenship" ??? > > Sally > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, frank jacobs wrote: > > > I remember one grandfather taking an oath that it was his intent > to > > become an American citizen and revoked any allegiance to any > foreign > > potentate, particularly Alexander Czar of the Russian empire. The > other > > grandfather also made such a declaration regarding Nicholas Czar > of the > > Russian Empire. Seems that that cancelled all bets and > allegiances > > toward Grandmother Catherine. > > > > > > > > ======= > > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16200) > > http://www.pctools.com/ > > ======= > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cd0705ed5b8252c6m05duc