In your email of Nov 21, 2010, your Kuhlberg list is complete except for one item. You left off the daughter Charlotta (b.1740). This is on page 82 of Pleve's Kuhlberg Lists. If you turn the page you will find the Anton brothers listed only a few people away from Nicolaus and his family. They are all there. As I mentioned before, when a father remarries, his children of the first wife leave home as soon as they can. The older daughter, Anna Barbara (1743, was married and on her own. The older Anton (b1740) was already married so they wanted their own household. They let the younger Anton come along with them because they were both blacksmiths and they probably worked together. They were on the same ship at the same date as the Nicolaus family. They were the only two Heinz households on the ship and listed close together. In the OSL for Straub they were in the same group arriving the same day, so they definitely were traveling together. They were the only Heinz families in the Straub OSL. As for the name difference, I found quite often when a young man married he changed his name more to his liking. I think he may have been the Josephus Phillipus (b1740). Also, both Anton and Nicolaus listed their origin as Nassau. I checked all of the many Heinz families in Kuhlberg and the OSL and they came from many areas, including Denmark Saxony and Württemburg. Only three listings were from Nassau, Nicolaus and the Anton brothers were both Lutheran and Johann Michael of the Reformed faith went to Warenburg. RE: Schierstein Church Records: I work with German Parrish records all the time. They are not that difficult. Do you know which Parish these records came from? What were the dates on the birth records of Josephus Phillipus and Anna Barbara? You mentioned that your chart states that they left Schierstein between 1743 and 1749. That was the time the younger Anton was born (1747). He may be recorded in another church record. In one record, Anton (1740) mentioned he was from Altenkirchen, Nassau-Weilburg. This may be where the Nicolaus family moved and the church records may be there. I did find Gottfried Bernard's twin Johann Wilhelm (b.1757). He moved to Laub and married. I don't know the wife's name because she died before the 1798 census. By 1798 he married again to Maria Margaretha Kohl in Stahl am Tarlyk. He brought his three children from his first marriage. They were Gottfried Baltasar (1787), Georg Wilhelm (1793) and Katharina Juliana (1791). Johann Wilhelm (1757) died in 1820. The following is the Steinhauer data from Dr. Pleve's Kuhlberg Lists, page 145, document #2029: Johann Wilhelm Steinhauer, single, Reformed Faith, farmer from Runkel. He arrived 4 July 1766, colonist recruiter was Le Roy. From Lübeck on the "Die Neue Freiheit Von Bremen". The skipper was Stengrawer. None of the destinations of the colonists in the Kuhlberg List were given because it wasn't always known at that point. The following is from Pleve's "Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet", Volume 4, page 347 Warenburg #171: Johann Wilhelm Steinhauer, (b. 1749) single. Reformed Faith, farmer, from Wolfenhausen arrived in Warenburg 12 May 1767. (a note also says he is a landless farm worker). Here again, a lot happened to Wilhelm Steinhauer between 1767 and 1798. He was twice a widower. He married in Warenburg (wife name unknown) and had two sons, Heinrich Philipp (1772) and Georg Friedrich (1776). His wife died between 1776 and 1792 and he moved his family to Bangert. The 1798 Movement Tables (MV 212) shows, in 1792, the widow Anna Maria Spomer moved from Beideck to Bangert to marry Steinhauer and took five of her children with her. They were Heinrich, Michael, Jakob, Peter and Eva Maria (to Bg 2). This widow was Anna Maria (Wagner) Spomer (b. 1745), widow of Peter Spomer (b. 1743 - died 1789) of Beideck. Anna Maria also known as Anna Margaretha, died before 1798, so Wilhelm was a widower again in the 1798 Bangert census. Wilhelm's first son Heinrich Philipp (1772) married his stepsister, Eva Maria Spomer (b. 1771). I'm also working with Clay Spomer, who is a descendent pf Peter Spomer (1743-1789). He says the Spomers also came from Schierstein, so you might want to contact him and compare notes with the Heinz and Spomer. Clay's email is < [email protected] >. If you could send me copies of the Schierstein church copies, I would like to see if I could decipher more of them for you. I hope this answers your questions. Jerry Goertzen