My ancestors left Saratov and travelled to Bremerhaven in a covered wagon. According to the descendants of the children making this trip, the Russians allowed them to bring very little with them to bring to America. The oldest son was in charge of the coffee mill. Sorry I can't help more. Darnell Dingle ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: [GV] Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to the U.S. orelsewhere >I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would > like to pose to everyone. > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my families > case > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in > Messer, > Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. > BUT! My questions. > 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted with a > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian > or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a > family member in Germany researching. > 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, carraige, walk, > riverboat? > 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? > 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the > authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any records? > Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - > April > 18, 1887. > My Questions. > 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? When did > they > leave? How long did the journey take? . > Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? > 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families > case) Train? Any records available? > 3. How long did this trip take? > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information. Any > specific > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Neil D. Nusz(s) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1452 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message