Hello All, I recently  found names of 2 Wiederspahns in a Mental Health Institution cemetery in Saskatchewan.   I knew we must have had relatives there, but never dreamed I would find any in a place like that. One of them  died in 1933, not sure about the other one. There is a website at www.findagrave.com . In case some of you haven't heard of it. I stumbled across it last week, a wonderful woman was very helpful pointing me the right direction   & provided me the phone numbers & names in Canada who can help. When I find out if they are my decsendents, I'll let you know. This is pretty exciting & interesting. Susan H. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2011 1:23:45 PM Subject: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 Today's Topics:    1. Blog (Leandro Hildt)    2. Obit Jean Steinmetz (Henry Schmick)    3. Obit Cathy" Schreiner (Henry Schmick)    4. Re: Ship Records from Germany to Russia 1763 (CORINA HIRT)    5. Re: Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to the U.S.       orelsewhere (Darnell Dingle) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 06:51:46 -0300 From: Leandro Hildt <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Blog To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed new blog: http://pastorjakobriffel.blogspot.com Thanks Leandro ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:46:45 -0700 From: "Henry Schmick" <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Obit Jean Steinmetz To: "Ger-Volga List, " <[email protected]>, "GR-GENEALOGY, "         <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format="flowed" Steinmetz, Jean,   Oct. 4, 1929- Feb. 26, 2011 Billings  Gazette Billkings, MT 1 Mar 2011    HARDIN ? Jean Steinmetz, 81, of Hardin, passed away Feb. 26, 2011, in the Big Horn County Memorial Hospital, of complications from pulmonary fibrosis. She was born Oct. 4, 1929, in a small white house on South 37th Street in Billings. She grew up in a large and loving family while attending the Taft-Garfield and Lincoln Junior High Schools. She was the third child born to William and Amanda K. Speidel Raines. Jean married Harry Steinmetz Sr. on Aug. 21, 1945, in Billings, and the couple made their home in Hardin for 63 years. They were blessed with five children: George, Kathie, Russell, Sara and Harry Steinmetz Jr. She was a wonderful homemaker who enjoyed her home and family. She always had a beautiful flower garden, loved to sew, knit, crochet, jigsaw puzzles and oil painting. She was a gracious and loving mom who put her family before herself. Some of her fondest memories were Christmas and family gatherings. After her children were grown, she worked at the Anthony's Department Store. Her parents, husband Harry Sr., son Russell, sister Elizabeth and brothers Dick, Monty and Don preceded Jean in death. Her loving family left behind are George, Harry Jr., Kathie (Chuck) Mereness and Sara; her grandchildren, Vicki, Oly, Krisi and Nick Steinmetz, Kelly Warburton, Casey and Michael Mereness; her great-grandchildren, Shelbie, Levi, Gracie and Trevin Warburton, Brayden McKnight, Shannon and Kennedy Mereness, Matthew and Luke Steinmetz; her sister, Donna (Rick) Jones; and her brother, Bill (Betty) Raines. Mom, you are greatly loved and will be forever missed. Funeral services will be held 2 p.m. Thursday, March 3, in the Bullis Funeral Chapel. Interment will follow in the Fairview Cemetery. Bullis Mortuary has been entrusted with the arrangements. The family would like to thank the nurses and staff at the Big Horn County Memorial Hospital swing bed unit for the wonderful care they gave to Mom and to the Billings Clinic ICU for giving Mom to us for a little longer. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:06:49 -0700 From: "Henry Schmick" <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Obit Cathy" Schreiner To: "Ger-Volga List, " <[email protected]>, "GR-GENEALOGY, "         <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format="flowed" Schreiner, Catherine ?Cathy,  Feb. 13, 1940- Feb. 26, 2011 Billings Gazette Billings, MT 1 Mar 2011    LAUREL ? Our beloved wife, mother, grandmother and great-grandmother, (Oma), Catherine "Cathy" Schreiner, 71, of Laurel, went to be with her Lord on Feb. 26, 2011, with her family by her side. She was born Feb. 13, 1940, to Gideon and Lena Suworo. Cathy came to the United States from Germany in 1952 with her grandmother, mother, aunts, their families, as well as her brother and sister. In 1957, she met David Schreiner, the love of her life. On Feb. 13, 1960, they married. In their union, they had two daughters: Tina Harkness of Laurel and the late Heidi Ray of Laurel. Cathy loved to cook, have family gatherings for every special occasion, do things for others and always just be there to help. Slumber parties at the house and making ice cream sundaes for her grandchildren and great-grandchildren were her greatest joy. She loved going to church to praise her Lord. She was an active member of the First Congregational Church of Laurel. She was a member of the Dorcas Society, and was a teacher for Sunday school. She was preceded in death by her father, Gideon Suworo; her stepfather, Emil Wolf; her mother, Lena; her sister, Marty; and her beloved daughter, Heidi. She is survived by her husband. David of Laurel; her daughter, Tina Harkness (Todd) of Laurel; her brother, Gideon Wolf of Big Timber; four grandchildren, David Gordon of Billings, Crystal Torres (Jonas) of Laurel and Ashley and Dirk Ray of Laurel; one step-granddaughter, Jesse Harkness of Billings; five great-grandchildren, Davin, Katelynn, Brandon, Kane and Kason; two step-great-grandchildren, Jonas and Piper. She will be greatly missed by her family and friends. This is not goodbye. We will all meet again in heaven, so we will say goodnight, we love you. John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." Funeral services will be held 10 a.m. Wednesday, March 2, at First Congregational Church in Laurel, with interment in Laurel Cemetery. Visitation will be 5 to 8 p.m. Tuesday, March 1, at Smith Funeral Chapel-Laurel. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:14:11 -0300 From: "CORINA HIRT" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Ship Records from Germany to Russia 1763 To: "Sheila Derevage" <[email protected]>,        "Volga German         List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";         reply-type=original Sheila: I found a Johannes Kreutzer in "Transport of the Volga Germans from Oranienbaum to the Colonies on the Volga 1766-1767", translated and edited by Brent Alan Mai. Johannes is the inmigrant #7271, no age given. He is a "Vorsteher". His wife's name is Cathrina (Katharina) Honnet (no age given) (#7272). Their children are Andreas, 7 years old (#7273), and Anna Cathrina, 16 years old (#7274). They are Lutherans. No other details are mentioned. Corina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Derevage" <[email protected]> To: "Volga German List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:59 PM Subject: [GV] Ship Records from Germany to Russia 1763 > Would anyone who has access to the book "The Emigration from Germany to > Russia in the Years 1763-1862" mind doing a look up for me.  I am looking > for ship records from Germany to Russia for Johannes Kreutzer born around > 1748 listed.   He is listed in the first settlers list as #25 in Herzog. > He is not listed in the Kuhlburg ship records.   I think I know where he > is from but a Rienhard Hofer in Germany is offering to find records in > Johannes Kreutzer's home town Roding Bayern.   Rienhard Hofer charges > about 48.00 an hour and wants a couple of hundred down to start the > research.   I am not familier with research cost in Germany and he was not > refered to me so I am a little hesitate to proceed.  If anyone has some > one they can recommend I would be interested. > > Thanks > > Sheila Kreutzer Derevage > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Informaci?n de NOD32, revisi?n 5915 (20110228) __________ > > Este mensaje ha sido analizado con  NOD32 antivirus system > http://www.nod32.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:23:42 -0600 From: "Darnell Dingle" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to the U.S.         orelsewhere To: "NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ" <[email protected]>,         <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";         reply-type="original" My ancestors left Saratov and travelled to Bremerhaven in a covered wagon. According to the descendants of the children making this trip, the Russians allowed them to bring very little with them to bring to America. The oldest son was in charge of the coffee mill. Sorry I can't help more. Darnell Dingle ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: [GV] Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to the U.S. orelsewhere >I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would > like to pose to everyone. > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia.  In my families > case > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in > Messer, > Russia on Sep 14, 1767.  All known dates. > BUT!  My questions. > 1.  In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted  with a > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian > or German?  I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a > family member in Germany researching. > 2.  How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck?  Wagon, carraige, walk, > riverboat? > 3.  How long did it take?  When did they leave Isenburg? > 4.  Did they have permission from some authority?  Who granted the > authorization?  Was there an application?  Church approval?  Any records? > Debts to be paid?  Sale of any land owned? > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - > April > 18, 1887. > My Questions. > 1.  How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany?  When did > they > leave?  How long did the journey take?  . >     Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? > 2.  Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families > case)  Train?  Any records available? > 3.  How long did this trip take? > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information.  Any > specific > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have.  Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Neil D. 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