To Susan N.& Maggie H. Yes, I know Louise Potter has passed & I do have her book, however the Hofferber info is not entirely correct, I don't know how it can be changed. Susan H. Mom of Kelly Arthur Hubenthal 8/7/67-6/29/96 CoAuthor:Between Two Pages:Children of Substance Available:www.authorhouse.com Also read my articles on Word Press: suhuben.wordpress.com "We are, each of us, angels with one wing and we can fly only by embracing one another." ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:00:05 AM Subject: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 29 Today's Topics:    1. Re: Gorr surname  your email 01-22-11 (Jerry and Fran Goertzen)    2. Hofferber (SUSAN NAKAJI) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:04:25 -0800 From: "Jerry and Fran Goertzen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Gorr surname  your email 01-22-11 To: <[email protected]>, "German Volga Roots Web"         <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="iso-8859-1" Shirley: I can see what you mean about some discrepancies and many blanks.  I'll try to help on them first. Heinrich Gorr (b abt 1708) was in Sh?nberg, Sachsen.  There is no evidence that he went to Russia.  His two sons, Gottlieb (b 1741 not 1783) and August (b 1753) did go to Russia.  They arrived in Reinwald, Russia on 14 July 1766 and they were both Lutheran farmers from Sch?nberg, Sachsen.   Gottlieb and his family stayed in Reinwald at least thru 1798.  In the original settlers list (OSL) Gottleib's surname was phonetically misspelled as Nor and in the 1798 census it was also misspelled as Haar.  His wife's name was Katharina Hoffstetter from Heilbronin ( spelling?) (b 1744).  In 1788 (MV2401) August Gorr and his family moved to Schwed, the village next door.  I don't have the name of his first wife but she may have died in Schwed.  In 1789, (MV2404), Katharina Holzworth, daughter of Michael in Reinwald, married August Gorr in Schwed.  August had two sons and two daughters by his first wife and two sons and one daughter by by his second wife, Katharina. The first son of August Gorr and his unknown first wife was your Gottfried Gorr (b 1783). Your Great Grandfather, Christian Andrew Gorr (b 1854) should show up in the 1857 Schwed census as well as your Great Great Grandfather, Andrew Martin Gorr.  I do not have this census but it is available from Prof. Brent Mai at < [email protected] >.  Andrew is aamerican for Andreas, like Fred is american for Gottfried. I also found that Dr. Igor Pleve did a family tree chart for Gorr of Schwed.  This usually covers from the first settler in Schwed to the time the descendents left the village.  It is  available from AHSGR Headquarters, 631 D St., Lincoln, Neb. 68502.  I highly recommend the Pleve Charts if you want all your ancestors.  You can also purchase them online from their website.  ahsgr.org/[email protected]   I usually research ancestors, not descendents, but since you are searching Scottsbluff, NE, I will give you some sources if you haven't tried them yet. The Nebraska State Historical Society is a good source for Archives < www.nebraskahistory.org > Their address is 1805 10th St, Gering NE 69341.   I was born in Nebraska (Stockham) and have many relatives there, including some in Scottsbluff.   Another website I would recommend is Brent Mai's Volga German Studies  http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu   Let me know how you are doing.     Jerry Goertzen ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:53:43 -0800 (PST) From: SUSAN NAKAJI <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Hofferber To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In regard to this message, Louise Potter passed away a few years ago.  You will have better luck contacting Maggie Hein, the assistant Village Coordinator for Frank.  I am now the Village Coordinator for Hussenbach, haven taken over the position after the passing of Louise. Message: 4 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:05:41 -0800 Susan: I saw your ancestor request on Ger-Volga and checked the Russian data.  You are in luck because the Russian data...  The next best chance is the Pleve Charts of surnames for each village and both of your surname charts are available.  These are family tree type charts. The Hofferber chart for the village of Frank can be purchased from Louise Potter, 306 N. Alder St., Toppenish, WA. 98949-1309. Susan Nakaji Village Coordinator for Hussenbach Life Member of American Historical Society of Germans from Russia Member of the German Russian Historical Society Descendant of Frank and Hussenbach, Saratov. 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