See below.   BP --- On Sat, 1/15/11, William Pickelhaupt <[email protected]> wrote: From: William Pickelhaupt <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Miller fam in Warenburg To: "Gary Martens" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:31 AM It is published in my book on the Volga-Germans of Michigan. The link is http://lists.memo.ru/index16.htm.   These are not just Volga-German victims, but VGs are among them.   Bill Pickelhaupt --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Gary Martens <[email protected]> wrote: From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Miller fam in Warenburg To: "William Pickelhaupt" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 8:24 PM Where is this website that has info on people who died in Siberia? Gary Martens On 1/14/2011 7:04 PM, William Pickelhaupt wrote: > Hello Kate, >    > Vera shared a couple of items on the Miller family with me and probably with others on the list. I do not know if anything she may have written on the Miller family is published anywhere. You know Memorial has published on their website the names and snippets of data on Volga-Germans who died in Siberia, correct? I have found many Pickelhaupts there; you can search their website by village. >    > Bill Pickelhaupt > > --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Kate Eist<[email protected]>  wrote: > > > From: Kate Eist<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GV] Miller fam in Warenburg > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 12:31 PM > > > Dear people, > I am a member of the list for about a year now and am very happy to see Volga German culture thriving!!! > I am researching the Miller family in Warenburg Alt/Warenburg, where my grandmother was born and deported to Siberia in 1941. In the deportation, my grandmother's mother died and that is also the reason why I do not have much info about the family except their names. > Philip and Katharina Miller from Warenburg and their six children: Alexander, Rita, Maria, Emma, David and Mina Miller. > David Miller, after the lifting of the prohibition to travel to the homeland visited Warenburg again and said that their old house is now a kindergarden/school. > I was wondering whether anyone on the list knows where I could get more info? The archives in Russia? Or church books? I also know that Vera was researching the Millers. Are her findings published anywhere? > Any help is greatly appreciated! Katharina > _______________________________________________________________________ > > The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men. > > -Alice Walker > > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, [email protected]<[email protected]>  wrote: > > From: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Subject: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 1:20 AM > > > > Today's Topics: > >     1. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8 (Susan) >     2. Jost 1850&  1857 Censuses Now Available (Brent Mai) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:16:41 +0000 (UTC) > From: Susan<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GV] GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: >      <[email protected]ca.mail.comcast.net> >      > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Sergei, > > In your research, have you ever come across Wiederspahn or Hoffeber in Pyatigorsk? My Grandmother said she came from Pyatigorski,Bethenien I believe. > > Susan Hubenthal > > "We are, each of us, angels with one wing and we can fly only by embracing one another." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:00:04 AM > Subject: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8 > > > > Today's Topics: > > ?? 1. Re: Kindsvater (S. Zitzer) > ?? 2. Re: Kindsvater's of Kana (Sergej Kindsvater) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:01:17 -0800 (PST) > From: "S. Zitzer"<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater > To: Jerry and Fran Goertzen<[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], German Volga Roots Web<[email protected]> > Message-ID: > ????????<[email protected]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > ?? I don't know if this helps anyone, but my Grandmother > worked for a Kindsvater family in Saratov about 1910 - 1912. > My aunt wrote that they had an "electrical and bicycle > business". ?My Grandmother worked as a live-in maid. > > ?? ? ?Best wishes, > > ?? ? ? ? ? Sally Zitzer > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:43:47 -1000 > From: Sergej Kindsvater<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana > To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii > > David, > > You may want to check this link: http://www.kindsvater.net/phpgedview/individual.php?pid=I633&ged=kindsvaters.ged > > Your grandfather is from Kanowo, now part of Prokhladnoye by Pyatigorsk in Caucasus. There have been quite a lot of Kindsvaters there. I met some in Germany. I guess they might have been from > Huck originally, but have no paper trail. Make a DNA test to be sure Huck or Dietel. > > Best regards, > > Sergej Kindsvater > > Am 08.01.2011 um 11:16 schrieb [email protected]: > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> ? 1. Re: Kindsvater's of Kana (Brent Mai) >> ? 2. Re: Kindsvater's of Kana (frank jacobs) >> ? 3. Re: Kindsvater's of Kana (Brent Mai) >> ? 4. Re: Kindsvater's of Kana (Brent Mai) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:57:14 +0000 >> From: Brent Mai<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> To: "S. Zitzer"<[email protected]> >> Cc: Dave<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >> ? ?<[email protected]> >> Message-ID:<[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Yes they are different colonies. But as the website indicates Kana was also known as Kaneau. I don't know how to be any clearer? Suggestions? >> >> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: "S. Zitzer"<[email protected]> >> To: Brent Mai<[email protected]> >> Cc: Dave<[email protected]>, "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2011 19:43:52 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> >> >> ? I find that web page confusing. ?My ancestors first settled >> in Kaneau which is very close to Katharinenstadt and is in >> Pleve's first settlers book volume 2. ?It was established >> in 1767. ?Katharinenstadt and Kaneau were way north of the >> village on the web page below. >> >> ? The web page below lists Kaneau as an alternative spelling >> for Kana but it is a different village established in 1860. >> >> ? ? ? ?Sincerely, >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ?Sally Zitzer >> >> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Brent Mai wrote: >> >>> Dave: There is a little info about Kana at: >>> >>> http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu/settlements/daughter_colonies/colony_kana.cfm >>> >>> I have translated the 1857 census of Kana, but there were no Kindsvaters there at that time. >>> ..................Brent............... >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 10:11 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >>> >>> Hello colleagues; >>> >>> ?Doing research and preparing a family genealogy for my sons' on Adam >>> Kindsvater and his family from Kana, Russia; who arrived into the United >>> states in 1913 at the port of Galveston, and also stated he had a brother >>> Daniel who remained in Russia. The spelling of the surname has been spelled >>> many different ways over the years, and was changed to Kinsfather on the >>> 1930 Census for Hidalgo, TX. Any pictures you might have of the Kana region >>> would be appreciated as well. >>> >>> ?Not familiar with the villages of Russia or Russian History at all and >>> pretty new at researching, so any help would be appreciated. >>> Adam Kindsvater is my Grandfather, and I am the Son of Daniel Adam >>> Kinsfather. >>> >>> Will gladly share any information I currently have on his descendants here >>> in the US that I know to be factual. >>> >>> Sincerely >>> David Allen Kinsfather >>> Lawton, Oklahoma, USA >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:27:43 -0600 >> From: "frank jacobs"<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> To: "Dave"<[email protected]>,<[email protected]> >> Message-ID:<[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> ? ?reply-type=original >> >> I looked in Merton's German-Russian Handbook and he lists >> Kana , Volga republic (Weisenseite) ?Pallasovka ?Southeast of Seelmann, >> Evangelical, Founded 1860. I don't know how that relates to an 1857 census. >> >> I looked in our Ellis County database and saw one Theodore Kindsvater >> married to a Monica Urban in 1941 and another Ed Kindsfather married to a >> Frances Dinges in the same county about 1960. >> >> Propinquity? It is neighboring state to Oklahoma, for what that's worth. >> Good luck. >> >> Mertens also lists daughter colonies of Kano, Caneau, Kaneau, Kanskoye. >> >> Frank Jacobs, Kansas >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:10 PM >> Subject: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> >> >>> Hello colleagues; >>> >>> ?Doing research and preparing a family genealogy for my sons' on Adam >>> Kindsvater and his family from Kana, Russia; who arrived into the United >>> states in 1913 at the port of Galveston, and also stated he had a brother >>> Daniel who remained in Russia. The spelling of the surname has been >>> spelled >>> many different ways over the years, and was changed to Kinsfather on the >>> 1930 Census for Hidalgo, TX. Any pictures you might have of the Kana >>> region >>> would be appreciated as well. >>> >>> ?Not familiar with the villages of Russia or Russian History at all and >>> pretty new at researching, so any help would be appreciated. >>> Adam Kindsvater is my Grandfather, and I am the Son of Daniel Adam >>> Kinsfather. >>> >>> Will gladly share any information I currently have on his descendants here >>> in the US that I know to be factual. >>> >>> Sincerely >>> David Allen Kinsfather >>> Lawton, Oklahoma, USA >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======= >>> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >>> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16650) >>> http://www.pctools.com/ >>> ======= >> >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16650) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:12:10 +0000 >> From: Brent Mai<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> To: frank jacobs<[email protected]>, Dave<[email protected]>, >> ? ?"[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> Message-ID:<[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> There were often colonists living in a daughter colony before it was officially "recognized" by the Russian government. This is the case with Kana which has a census before it was established! >> >> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: frank jacobs<[email protected]> >> To: Dave<[email protected]>, "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2011 20:28:37 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> >> I looked in Merton's German-Russian Handbook and he lists >> Kana , Volga republic (Weisenseite) ?Pallasovka ?Southeast of Seelmann, >> Evangelical, Founded 1860. I don't know how that relates to an 1857 census. >> >> I looked in our Ellis County database and saw one Theodore Kindsvater >> married to a Monica Urban in 1941 and another Ed Kindsfather married to a >> Frances Dinges in the same county about 1960. >> >> Propinquity? It is neighboring state to Oklahoma, for what that's worth. >> Good luck. >> >> Mertens also lists daughter colonies of Kano, Caneau, Kaneau, Kanskoye. >> >> Frank Jacobs, Kansas >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:10 PM >> Subject: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> >> >>> Hello colleagues; >>> >>> ?Doing research and preparing a family genealogy for my sons' on Adam >>> Kindsvater and his family from Kana, Russia; who arrived into the United >>> states in 1913 at the port of Galveston, and also stated he had a brother >>> Daniel who remained in Russia. The spelling of the surname has been >>> spelled >>> many different ways over the years, and was changed to Kinsfather on the >>> 1930 Census for Hidalgo, TX. Any pictures you might have of the Kana >>> region >>> would be appreciated as well. >>> >>> ?Not familiar with the villages of Russia or Russian History at all and >>> pretty new at researching, so any help would be appreciated. >>> Adam Kindsvater is my Grandfather, and I am the Son of Daniel Adam >>> Kinsfather. >>> >>> Will gladly share any information I currently have on his descendants here >>> in the US that I know to be factual. >>> >>> Sincerely >>> David Allen Kinsfather >>> Lawton, Oklahoma, USA >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======= >>> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >>> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16650) >>> http://www.pctools.com/ >>> ======= >> >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16650) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:16:13 +0000 >> From: Brent Mai<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>, >> ? ?"[email protected]" ? ?<[email protected]>, Dave >> ? ?<[email protected]> >> Message-ID:<[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dietel seems to be the original settlement colony of the Kindsvaters- ?although the 1767 census of Dietel is incomplete and they don't show in the part that is available. >> >> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: William Pickelhaupt<[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>, Dave<[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2011 19:55:42 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> >> Sergei Kindsvater is an excellent researcher and has lots of information on the Kindsvaters. I don't recall what village his ancestors are from but he is on this list server. A Conrad Kindsvater and his wife Charlotta settled in St. Clair, Michigan in 1904; they have descendants still living in the St. Clair area. >> >> Bill Pickelhaupt >> >> --- On Sat, 1/8/11, Dave<[email protected]>  wrote: >> >> >> From: Dave<[email protected]> >> Subject: [GV] Kindsvater's of Kana >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 10:10 AM >> >> >> Hello colleagues; >> >> ? Doing research and preparing a family genealogy for my sons' on Adam >> Kindsvater and his family from Kana, Russia; who arrived into the United >> states in 1913 at the port of Galveston, and also stated he had a brother >> Daniel who remained in Russia. The spelling of the surname has been spelled >> many different ways over the years, and was changed to Kinsfather on the >> 1930 Census for Hidalgo, TX. Any pictures you might have of the Kana region >> would be appreciated as well. >> >> ? Not familiar with the villages of Russia or Russian History at all and >> pretty new at researching, so any help would be appreciated. >> Adam Kindsvater is my Grandfather, and I am the Son of Daniel Adam >> Kinsfather. >> >> Will gladly share any information I currently have on his descendants here >> in the US that I know to be factual. >> >> Sincerely >> David Allen Kinsfather >> Lawton, Oklahoma, USA >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the GER-VOLGA list administrator, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> To post a message to the GER-VOLGA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 >> *************************************** > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GER-VOLGA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the GER-VOLGA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8 > *************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:20:20 +0000 > From: Brent Mai<[email protected]> > Subject: [GV] Jost 1850&  1857 Censuses Now Available > To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> > Message-ID: >      <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Contact me for further information. > ..............Brent............ > Brent Mai, University Librarian > Director, Center for Volga German Studies > http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu > Concordia University > Portland, Oregon > > 1850 Jost Surnames > > Arndt Axt Br?se B?schel Dauer Egof Eichner Flach Friedrich Fuchs Haas Harres Hauch Haupt Heckel Heller Hoffmann Horn Hubert Koch Kraft Lampel Martin Meisner Metzler M?rck Neubauer Peppe Pommer Queisner Reinhardt Ring Rube Rudolph Sch?fer Schledewitz Schleucher Sch?nefeld Stier Tag T?rmer Weber Wenig > > Movement to/from the following colonies is recorded: Kautz, Reinwald, and Susannental > > 1857 Jost Surnames (includes maiden names) > > Adolf Arndt Arnst Axt Becker Bessinger Borger Br?se Braun Bung Busch B?schel Dauer Diener D?ring Egof Eichner Flachs Fleming F?rster Freund Friedrich Friess Fritzler Fuchs Geringer G?bel Gorde Haas Hahn Hammel Harres Haupt Heckel Heidt Heller Hepfner Herrmann Hettrich Himmel Horn Huber Hubert Kaiser Keil Kinzel Kling K?rner Kraft Kreiter Kruse Lampel Lehmann Leikam Leitzel Leonhardt Markus Martin Mattias Maus Meier Meisner Metzler M?rck Muhl M?ller Neubauer Nilmaier Otto Peppe Pfeifer Pommer Preuss Prinz Queisner Reinhardt Ressler Ring Rube Rudolph Sch?fer Scharf Schermer Schiffman Schledewitz Schleucher Schmal Schmidt Sch?nefeld Schreiber Schultz Schumacher Schwabenland Seibert Seiler Sommer Stahlmann Steinhauer Stier St?rck Tag T?rmer Vorath Weber Wegele Weisbrod Weltz Wenig Wolf Wurm W?rtz > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GER-VOLGA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the GER-VOLGA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 > *************************************** > > > >        > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >