Jerry Frank Jacobs suggested that I contact you because you may have the Guide to the German Parish Register for Roding, Oberpfalz, Bayern. I think this is where Johannes Kreutzer b.1748 and d.1824 Rohleder, Russia was born. According to the Rohleder Russia 1798 census he was married to Elenore Laber and they had 5 sons. If you do have this village I can not tell you how much I would appriciate any information or assistance in detemining my Kreutzer family from Germany. I am new to researching germany. Thank you Sheila Kreutzer Derevage ----- Original Message ----- From: frank jacobs <[email protected]> To: Sheila Derevage <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:45:28 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Kreutzer search  Sheila, Now that you know the region you want, contact Jerry Goertzen and ask his if he has the Guide to the German Parish Register volume for Roding, Oberplatz, Bayern and if he does, will he look up the village for you. The village will have an LDS microfilm index number. However in my search for Kisners, I found that LDS was not allowed to copy that church's records. Hope for the best. If Jerry does not have that volumn, ask him how to contact the genealogist at his former Chapter post and ask him to check the volume in their libary. Bayern is a very common region (also known as Bavaria). Jerry is at [email protected] Keep me posted. By the way, I have the centenial edition of Liebenthal, Kansas, the home of the Kreutzer in Kansas. If it does not pan out for you, check the ship manifest for the other ship other than the Mosel with the Herzog people. That's the ship the Liebenthalers sailed on. Frank Jacobs ----- Original Message ----- From:Sheila Derevage To:frank jacobs Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Kreutzer search Frank Thanks so much for your help. I did purchase the Kulhburg ship lists and I did not find a Kreutzer match between the ship list and the Herzog census. But with all the help from the forum I feel comfortable with Johannes Kreutzer b. 1749-51 is from Roding, Oberpfalz, Bayern, Germany. I was able to locate this place on a map. The only place that I know to look now is LDS. Or if you have any other sources that would be less time consuming. Do not get me wrong I love the research I just work full time, married, and have two kids in school. Sheila ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16740) http://www.pctools.com ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16760) http://www.pctools.com ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16760) http://www.pctools.com =======