Looking for iformation on the Zimmerman family from the village of Moor Thanks Adolph Netzel

To read the month long series regarding the 1961 high speed train-school bus tragedy involving several Germans from Russia families go to: Rockymountainnews.com THE CROSSING by Kevin Vaughan

Scottsbluff Star Hearld Scottsbluff, NE 23 Feb 2007 TORRINGTON, Wyo. - Edward W. Wolski, 86, passed away peacefully Tuesday, Feb. 20, 2007, at the Special Touch Unit at Torrington Community Hospital. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m., Friday, Feb. 23, at the South Goshen Presbyterian Church in Yoder, Wyo. with Pastor Tom Kittleman officiating and Reverend Burton Kugler assisting. Burial, with Masonic Rites, will follow in the Valley View Cemetery in Torrington. Visitation hours will be held at the Colyer Funeral Home Thursday, from Noon to 7 p.m. In lieu of flowers, the family would request that memorial contributions be directed in Ed's memory to the South Goshen Presbyterian Church at 200 East 3rd Avenue, Yoder, WY 82244. Arrangements are under the direction of the Colyer Funeral Home and friends are invited to send condolences to the family at www.colyerfuneralhome.com Edward was born July 19, 1920, in Hall County, Neb. the son of Franz and Minnie (Schweiger) Wolski. He moved with his parents and sibling to Morrill at an early age and graduated from Morrill High School in 1938. He married Gladys Mae Hrasky Nov. 28, 1948, in Mitchell and the couple has enjoyed 58 years together. They moved to Goshen County in 1950 and purchased a farm in the Yoder, Wyo. area in 1960 where they lived and raised their family. Edward and Gladys sold the farm in 1988 and retired, moving in to Torrington. Edward was active in community service and served on the Yoder School Board, the Horse Creek Conservation District, the South Goshen Presbyterian Church Session, Goshen County Weed and Pest, and the Goshen County Water Development Board. He was affiliated with Oasis 271 AF&AM at Morrill, Order of Eastern Star Sunflower Chapter at Mitchell; and he was Master of the Royal Secret of the 32 Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of the Alliance Consistory in Nebraska. Ed had a love for flying and in the years before his marriage, he acquired a private pilots license and enjoyed solo flying. He did fly for a short time after his marriage to Gladys and he delighted in getting any friends and family brave enough to go up in the plane with him. But with becoming a father, Edward gave up flying and enjoyed a lifetime of farming the land and leaving a legacy of being a perfectionist. Survivors include his wife Gladys of Torrington; son, Francis (Wally) and his wife Teresa of Yoder; daughter, Janet Haas and her husband Glen of Torrington; older brother, Arnold Wolski of Torrington; younger sister, Florence Westphal of Denver; grandchildren, Scott Haas of Layton, Utah; Erin Helzer and husband Michael of Casper, Wyo.; Amie Wolski of Rapid City, S.D.; and Ashley Wolski of Chadron; and three nieces. His parents and one older brother preceded him in death.

Th Fort Collins, Colorado coloradoan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published Feb 22, 2007 Dorothy Elaine Helzer May 6, 1929-February 19, 2007 Dorothy Elaine Helzer, 77, of Windsor, was born in Greeley to Conrad Miller and Mary Walter. She was a graduate of Greeley High School. On June 1, 1947, she married Edward Helzer. She was a wife, homemaker, mother, grandmother and great-grandmother. Dorothy also was a member of Faith United Church of Christ and enjoyed sewing, caring for her flower garden, listening to hymns and country music, fishing with her husband and spending time with her family and friends. Dorothy died Monday, Feb. 19, 2007, at Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins. She is survived by her children, Gale Marostica of Windsor and Sharon Brunner and husband Kenton of Windsor; her sisters, Thelma Smith of Greeley and Nadine Vandenberg and husband Lloyd of Lakewood; four grandchildren, Tara Marostica of Fort Collins, Tori Griscavage and husband John of Fort Collins, Amy Brunner of Fort Collins and Marc Brunner of Omaha, Neb.; and two great-grandchildren, Karlea and Kyler Griscavage. She was preceded in death by her husband, Edward Helzer; her parents, Conrad and Mary Miller; and her brother, Elmer Miller. A graveside service will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at Lakeview Cemetery. A memorial service will be held following the graveside service at 10:30 a.m. at Faith United Church of Christ. A viewing will be held from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. today at Marks Funeral and Cremation Service, 9293 Eastman Park Drive, Windsor. Internment will be at 10 a.m. Friday at Lakeview Cemetery in Windsor. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions can be sent to Faith United Church of Christ or The Windsor/Severance Fire Department in care of Marks Funeral and Cremation Service, 9293 Eastman Park Drive, Windsor, CO 80550.

There were two villages called Moor. The first had the Russian name of Klutschi, and was in the Balzer District, and was founded in 1766. The second was in the Pallazowka District, and was founded in 1860. It had no listed Russian name. Gary Martens On 22 Feb 2007 at 4:04, Dick Kraus wrote: Hi Adolph. The village is Moor or Mohr in German and there were several spellings of Klutschi, the Russia name of the village. The German name of the parish is Messer, for which there were again several spellings of Ust- Zolicha, the Russian name. These places are SSW of Saratov city, just W of where the Volga River makes its big bulge east. Cheers, Dick Kraus, Alexandertal VC ----- Original Message ---- From: Adolph&Marilyn Netzel <admar2@verizon.net> To: GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:01:15 PM Subject: [GER-VOLGA] (no subject) We would like to find some information on my mother -- her name was Elizabeth Cimmerman (or Zimmerman). Place & date of birth & baptism: Kliuchi Village, February 25, 1892. This was certified by Pastor of Ust- Zolikhinski Evangelic Reformative Parish, Kliuchi Village. We believe this to be in the Saratov Russia area. We appreciate any help we can get with this. Thanks. Adolph Netzel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ _______________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2075 (20070222) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

The Fort Collins Colorado coloradoan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published Feb 22, 2007 Robert Duane 'Rob' Brunner Nov. 30, 1942-Feb. 16, 2007 Robert Duane "Rob" Brunner, 64, was born in Windsor to Henry and Alma (Loeffler) Brunner. In 1960, he graduated from Windsor High School and went on to attend Colorado State University. His college studies were interrupted by his service in the U.S. Coast Guard. After his military service, Mr. Brunner completed a bachelor of science degree in chemistry at CSU.On May 5, 1968, he married Diane Horner in Windsor. They were married 37 years. He began working as a nuclear chemist for Atlantic-Richfield Handford near Richland, Wash., and later returned to CSU to earn a master's degree in business administration. In 1971, he began working for Kodak, where he worked in Cost Accounting and Quality Management until his retirement in 2002. After retirement, Mr. Brunner worked for a short time at Woodcraft. He enjoyed traveling and especially the trips he took to Scotland. He also enjoyed growing orchids and collecting fountain pens, and he had a vast music CD collection. He especially enjoyed his West Highland White Terriers. He was a good cook and often enjoyed cooking special dinners for friends and family. Mr. Brunner was a very talented woodworker, carver and turner. He served on the Windsor Library Board for six years and was an avid reader. Mr. Brunner died Friday, Feb. 16, 2007, in Windsor. He is survived by his wife, Diane Brunner of Windsor; mother, Alma Gerbitz and husband Harry of Windsor; sister, Nancy Gunter and husband Jim of Estes Park; niece, Jill Clark and husband Michael of Fort Collins; and a nephew, Russ Gunter of Loveland. He was preceded in death by his father, Henry Brunner, who died in 1968. A memorial service will be at 2 p.m. Friday at Adamson West Chapel in Greeley. Memorial contributions can be made to a charity of the donor's choice in care of Adamson Funeral & Cremation Services, 2000 47th Ave., Greeley, CO 80634. Condolences can be sent to the family at www.adamsonchapels.com .

Hi Adolph. The village is Moor or Mohr in German and there were several spellings of Klutschi, the Russia name of the village. The German name of the parish is Messer, for which there were again several spellings of Ust-Zolicha, the Russian name. These places are SSW of Saratov city, just W of where the Volga River makes its big bulge east. Cheers, Dick Kraus, Alexandertal VC ----- Original Message ---- From: Adolph&Marilyn Netzel <admar2@verizon.net> To: GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:01:15 PM Subject: [GER-VOLGA] (no subject) We would like to find some information on my mother -- her name was Elizabeth Cimmerman (or Zimmerman). Place & date of birth & baptism: Kliuchi Village, February 25, 1892. This was certified by Pastor of Ust-Zolikhinski Evangelic Reformative Parish, Kliuchi Village. We believe this to be in the Saratov Russia area. We appreciate any help we can get with this. Thanks. Adolph Netzel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

We would like to find some information on my mother -- her name was Elizabeth Cimmerman (or Zimmerman). Place & date of birth & baptism: Kliuchi Village, February 25, 1892. This was certified by Pastor of Ust-Zolikhinski Evangelic Reformative Parish, Kliuchi Village. We believe this to be in the Saratov Russia area. We appreciate any help we can get with this. Thanks. Adolph Netzel

One of you clever people (Frank Jacobs, I think) asked me if there was hazing in the Russian (Imperial) Army pre 1917-18. [ there is plenty of well-publicised barbaric hazing in the Soviet, and post-Soviet period ] This is a reply from one of the most esteemed Russian military historians: << For what it's worth, I have not read of incidents of hazing in the pre-1917 army. There are, though, many incidents of oppressive, abusive, and exploitive officers. [ This depends on individual nature, some have good characters, some bad. vb ] The farther back in time one goes, it seems to me the less likely you would encounter hazing. Living conditions were bleak enough, with high mortality rates, that hazing seems pointless. Also, the lower ranks' social and official core unit was the "artel," a group of about 10 or so men united to pool resources, obtain food, earn extra money, and in general increase chances of survival. It was very cooperative and hazing would not fit in. Regards, Mark Conrad >> I have read that the English nurses stationed in Warsaw during WWI were surprised how friendly and informal and brotherly the Russian officers were towards their own soldiers ....WHEN OFF-DUTY, unlike the Prussians, who were authoritarian at all times, while Russian officers pulled rank, but only once they were on duty again... Vera Beljakova-Miller

I am sending this again for new listers. Here is a site listing the Bedingen Marriages 1766 German Colonists Emigrating to Russia. I think my grandson's Kaspar Kraus (Johan Kaspar Kraus?) first marriage is listed here. Maybe yours is, too. http://www.femling.com/gen/balzer/budmar.htm Elaine

All AHSGR Village Coordinator contact information can be found on the AHSGR web site at this link: http://www.ahsgr.org/village_coordinators.htm Teri Helzer, AHSGR Webmistress marina plieva <plieva@hotmail.com> wrote: Dear friends, I need e-mail of coordinator for Frank. Who can help me? I have following information: Johann (son of Gottfried) August moved ca. 1843 with his family from Frank to Johannesdorf (North caucasus). I search his relatives on Volga and information about his ancestors. Marina _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

Dear friends, I need e-mail of coordinator for Frank. Who can help me? I have following information: Johann (son of Gottfried) August moved ca. 1843 with his family from Frank to Johannesdorf (North caucasus). I search his relatives on Volga and information about his ancestors. Marina _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline

Billings Gazette Billings, MT 18 Feb 2007 HARDIN - A strong will, a determination to live, and the love of her family were the allies of Mary Elaine Schanaman Pitsch in her battle against chronic progressive multiple sclerosis. The battle was lost on Feb. 15, 2007, at the age of 66. Her spirit is now free from the ailing body that imprisoned it. Elaine was born on Oct. 9, 1940, in Bridgeport, Neb., to Conrad and Lydia Schanaman. Both preceded her in death, along with an infant brother, Ralph. She was raised in the Hardin area, where she also received her education. Elaine was full of adventure and loved her animals and the outdoors. She married David Pitsch in 1958. Together, they farmed and ranched in the Crow Agency area, where they raised their four sons. They later divorced. Elaine worked at the Yellowtail Dam, and then became a partner in Geo's Place in Crow Agency. After a fire destroyed the establishment, Elaine then built and managed her own store, The Center Store, in Crow Agency until she was unable to do so because of her total disablement caused by MS. Elaine continued to enjoy life through the love and support of her family. Her greatest enjoyment was her grandchildren. She was always happy to hear of their adventures and accomplishments, big or small, and she was always there for them. Simple things brought joy to Elaine. She loved having the birds fed and being able to watch them eat through her bedroom window. She loved flowers and all of her plants. Her four sons, David of Garryowen, Dan of Harlingen, Texas, Dale of Hardin, and Dean of Hardin, survive Elaine, along with her grandchildren, Davey, Darbey, Demi, Erica, Devin, Darren, Austin and Kade, and a great-grandson, Tristan Dale. Elaine is also survived by her brother, LeeRoy (Pearl) Schanaman of Hardin; her sister, JoAnne (Ted) Kerst of Spokane, Wash.; and nieces, nephews and other relation. Elaine will be deeply missed by her family and friends. The family would like to express their deepest and sincerest appreciation to all of the caregivers through the past several years that helped Elaine and became part of her extended family. Elaine is now at peace. Cremation has taken place. Memorial services will be held 2 p.m. Wednesday, Feb. 21, at the Hardin E & R Church. A luncheon will follow. Inurnment will be held at a later date. Memorials may be made to the MT Chapter of the National MS Society. Bullis Mortuary has been entrusted with the arrangements

Casper Star Tribune Casper, WY 18 Feb 2007 Marie K. Kohout Sunday, February 18, 2007 KEMMERER -- Memorial services for Marie K. Kohout, 94, will be conducted at 10 a.m. Tuesday, Feb. 20, 2007, at Crandall Funeral Home with Pastor Jonathan Lange officiating. She died Friday, Feb. 16, 2007. She was born June 13, 1912, in Havelock, Neb., the daughter of George and Katie (Gettman) Miller. On May 6, 1939, she married John Robert Kohout in Greeley, Colo. He preceded her in death in January of 1970. She enjoyed reading, puzzles and playing cards. She also loved to travel. Survivors include her two sons, Michael Kohout and his wife of Kemmerer and James Robert and his wife of Chicago, Ill.; several grandchildren and great-grandchildren; and two sisters, Margaret and Leah. She was preceded in death by her parents, seven sisters, and one brother. Cremation has taken place under the direction of Crandall Funeral Home of Kemmerer.

Billings Gazette Billings, MT 17 Feb 2007 Helen (Ostwalt Foos) Southworth passed away at her home on Feb. 14, 2007, after spending a week of quality time with family and friends. Helen was born July 18, 1920, to Henry and Mollie (Thiel) Ostwalt, the second of 10 children. Helen met Henry Foos, Jr. at a dance and in November 1940, they were married. They had three children: Carolyn, Nancy and Henrietta. They farmed in Silesia, Laurel and Park City until Henry passed away in October 1958. Helen then moved to Laurel with her three daughters and worked for about 20 years as an Associate at J.C. Penney Co. In August 1963, Helen married Kenneth Southworth and was finally able to travel. They went to Mexico, Washington, Arizona and New Mexico. She also traveled to Anchorage, Alaska, which was a highlight for her. Kenny passed away in September 1994. During her last years, Helen enjoyed spending time with family, playing cards and doing crossword puzzles. She leaves behind her two loving daughters, Carolyn J. (Nick) Ritz and Nancy Goddard; six grandchildren, Teresa (Wes) Peltzer, Valarie (Bill) Giesick, Corday (Syd) Goddard, Anissa (David) Alan, Michael Ray (Marie) Underwood, Michelle (Jonathan) Smith; 10 great-grandchildren, three great-great-grandchildren; four brothers, Harold (Almeda), John (Dorrothy), Conrad (Miriam) and Eugene (Diane); and four sisters, Martha (Harold) Iverson, Esther Fox, Betty (Melvin) Aman, and Judy (Clint) Frank; and many nieces and nephews. Helen was preceded in death by her parents; husbands Henry Foos, Jr. and Kenneth J. Southworth; her brother, Henry Ostwalt; a daughter, Henrietta Underwood; and a grandson, Rodney Haman. The family wishes to give a special thank you to Helen's "girls" at Nightingale Services, with an extra special thank you to Brittany. We also thank Lynn and Chris of Rocky Mountain Hospice for the loving and tender care given to our mother, grandmother and sister. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. on Monday, Feb. 19, at Evangelical United Methodist Church, 345 Broadwater Ave. The casket will be open and the family will be receiving guests from 5 to 7 p.m. on Sunday, Feb. 18, at Michelotti-Sawyers. Memorials may be made to Rocky Mountain Hospice, 2110 Overland Ave., Suite 111, Billings, MT 59102. Michelotti-Sawyers is in charge of arrangements.

Hey list just want to let you know that I have finally finished the 1850 Katharienstadt 1850 census. It is about 1000 pages. Hope to start the 1857 census next. If anyone is interested in purchasing this census please let me know. This will compliment the 1874 that I have as well. Thanks! -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net

Greeley Tribune Greeley, Colorado 02-16-2007 Carl Kobobel Feb. 3, 1912-Feb. 13, 2007 Age: 95 Residence: Greeley Carl Kobobel was born in Weld County to Karl and Mary (Stricker) Kobobel. Mr. Kobobel attended school in Minatare, Neb. He married Elma Berieg. During World War II, he interpreted for the German prisoners of war working on farms in Kersey. He was a farmer in Weld and Morgan counties and then worked at the Great Western Sugar Co. factory. He worked 17 years for the City of Greeley before retiring. Mr. Kobobel was a member of St. John's Lutheran Church. He enjoyed listening to German music when it used to be played on the radio. Mr. Kobobel died Tuesday at Kenton Manor in Greeley. Survivors: Three daughters, Audrey Marshall of Fort Collins, Lucille Butterfield of Salt Lake City and Gail Adams of Grand Junction; three sons, Phillip Kobobel of Greeley and Kenneth Kobobel and James Kobobel, both of Houston; a sister, Clara Ulrich, and two brothers, Fred Kobobel and Elmer Kobobel, all of Greeley; 15 grandchildren; 21 great-grandchildren; and four great-great-grandchildren. Preceded in death by: His wife and a son Jack Kobobel; five brothers, Hank, Bill, Harvey, Harry and Ed Kobobel; and four sisters, Molly Stroh, Esther Clark, Lillian Moffet and Venice John. Services: 10 a.m. Monday at Stoddard Funeral Home. Interment: Sunset Memorial Gardens, Greeley. Visitation: 3-6 p.m. Sunday at the funeral home. Notes: Instead of flowers, contributions may be made to the Carl Kobobel Memorial Fund in care of Stoddard Funeral Home, 3205 28th St., Greeley, CO 80634. An online memorial is at www.mem.com <http://www.mem.com>.

I can help if you want to fax them to me. I have a work colleague that German is her first language and she is always happy to help. Shauna Libsack > -----Original Message----- > From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelby Luffman > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:58 PM > To: GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GER-VOLGA] translation hellp needed > > I need help. We have found 3 letters written in German and need someone to > translate them. I could make copies and of course I am willing to pay for the > service. These were written to my Grandmother in 1968 and were found by my > cousin. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Shelby Luffman > sluffman@carolina.rr.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

I need help. We have found 3 letters written in German and need someone to translate them. I could make copies and of course I am willing to pay for the service. These were written to my Grandmother in 1968 and were found by my cousin. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Shelby Luffman sluffman@carolina.rr.com

Just found the website and today it is on Cyndislist.com. http://www.smalltownpapers.com/ The newspapers are on line for searching and more newspapers are being added. There is no fee. This has been interesting to me since it searches by surname. I have looked at the Western Kansas World, Wakeeney, Kansas and even found an article I wrote back on 1986 about the history I wrote for the Centennial of St. Mary/s Church in Ellis, Kansas. Happy searching, Rosemary Larson