Is there some way to open/enlarge the pictures without dragging them to the desktop? I can do that but would rather not load my desktop with so many icons. Don Loose Warren, Mich. On Jun 25, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Rosemary Larson wrote: > Dear List, > > You're in for a a wide array of activites at the 2007 convention > by taking > a look at this website. > > http://www.volgagerman.net/convention_pics.htm > > There must be over a hundred so > > Enjoy, > Rosemary Larson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking information on Lydia Stark, born 1874, possibly in Alexanderdorf, Russia. She married Conard Hert/Herdt abt. 1893. Who were her parents, siblings, etc? Lydia Hert died in Toppenish, Yakima, Washington 10 Oct 1952, buried in Hardin, Big Horn, Montana. I have their children and data. Any information would be appreciated. Thank You Dee Hert West Jordan, UT No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.8/869 - Release Date: 6/25/2007 5:32 PM

Dear List, You're in for a a wide array of activites at the 2007 convention by taking a look at this website. http://www.volgagerman.net/convention_pics.htm There must be over a hundred so Enjoy, Rosemary Larson

I would like to personally take a moment to congratulate and thank the person(s) responsible for publishing this year's "Convention News". It was very interesting reading and well written; I do not recall any such reporting from previous conventions. If I offend any previous authors, blame it on my "Senior Moment". Congratulations are also in order to the Hays Convention Team for formulating this year's gathering that drew well over 600 attendees. I am truly sorry I was not able to attend. Great Job One and All! Don Loose Warren, Mich.

Would also like to thank Vera for all of her hard work and dedication for such in depth information for all of us to share. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

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Longmont FYI Longmont, Colorado 06-24-2007 July 22, 1912 — June 18, 2007 Helen G.YOUNG , 94, of Longmont, died June 18, 2007, at Beatrice Hover Assisted Living. She was born July 22, 1912, in Loveland, Colorado, to Harry and Lucy (Walker) Walker. She graduated from Loveland High School in 1930. Helen married Joseph A. “Joe” Young June 2, 1935, in Loveland. She lived in Worland, Wyoming, for five years and then moved to Longmont in 1940. Helen was a housewife and home owner. She was a member of BPO Elks #1055 in Longmont. Helen enjoyed golfing, gardening and sewing. She was preceded in death by her husband in 1997; her parents; a brother, Harry Walker; and ten sisters, Effie Burke, Jennie Stine, Beatrice Rowley, Edna Allen, Maymie Stephens, Ada Morris, Bessie Walker, Mable Roy, Marta Walker and Edith Walker. Survivors include four nieces, Betty Kennedy, Jackie Garrish, Lucy Rowley, and Grace Rowley; and two nephews, Jack Morris and Claude Morris; and sister-in-law Lois Blair. No services will be held. Cremation at Ahlberg Funeral Chapel and Crematory. Inurnment at Foothills Gardens of Memory. Visit www.ahlbergfuneralchapel.com to leave condolences for the family.

Greeley Tribune Greeley, Colorado 06-24-2007 Arnold Hoffmann Feb. 8, 1942-June 20, 2007 Age: 65 Residence: Yuma Tribute: Arnold Hoffmann was born in Fort Morgan to Conrad Hoffmann Jr. and Lydia Sagel-Hoffmann. On Feb. 14, 1963, he married Sylvia "Sharon" Davis. They had four sons, Rob, Rick, Russell and Randy. Mr. Hoffmann and his wife lived in the Fort Morgan area until 1968, when they moved to west of Yuma. In 1971, they moved to Big Springs, Neb. For a short time, they lived in Fort Morgan again until 1972, when they moved back between Yuma and Otis, where Mr. Hoffmann lived until his death. Mr. Hoffmann worked for Great Western Sugar Co. sugar beet factory and Century Mobile Homes, both in Fort Morgan. He also was a truck drive for a short time. He worked for Poitz Farms for 30 years. When the farm sold, he then worked for Timmermann's feedlot as a mechanic and maintenance personnel. Mr. Hoffmann took great pride in his remote controlled airplanes. Extremely patriotic, he held the United States' military men and women deep in his heart. Mr. Hoffmann died Thursday at the Yuma District Hospital in Yuma. Survivors: His mother, Lydia Hoffmann of Greeley; four sons and their wives, Rob and Virginia Hoffmann of Sterling, Rick and Barb Hoffmann of Brush, Russell and Mary Hoffmann of Savannah, Ga., and Randy and Natalie Hoffmann of Carrolton, Texas; a brother, Ken Hoffmann of Bartley, Neb.; two sisters, Linda Chabot and Connie Hoffmann, both of Greeley; and eight grandchildren. Preceded in death by: His wife, Sharon, his father and an infant sister, Virginia. Memorial services: 1 p.m. Monday at the First Church of the Nazarene in Yuma, with Evangelist Bernerd Buchanan and Duane Marlene Brunner officiating. Interment: Private family inurnment at a later time at the Otis Cemetery. Notes: Baucke Funeral Home of Yuma is in charge of arrangements.

Would the V.C. for Kutter please contact me. I have some Kutter materials that I would like to give you.. Laurin Wilhelm in San Antonio, TX ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Sorry for cross posting but this topic is of general interest to GRs, Not only Volga-GRs. Well, since you ask ....about German/Russian relationships, here is a brief overview of the time span and development.... 1. To begin with the Russian serfs were obviously envious that foreigners were getting a better deal and preferential treatment. It was pretty galling that foreign farmers were given free land. 2. After the abolition of serfdom in 1860 relations improved as the Russian serf now enjoyed a somewhat better. freer status, and started to move around and off the landlords' estates into towns. 3. After the abolition of German colonial privileges and the introduction of German colonists to full-scale Russian citizenship with is advantaged and also disadvantages, tension eased, as now everyone was more equal than before, everybody was up for military service...etc....Germans were no longer the "privileged foreigners'.... 4. It was during this period, and starting from about 1880 that the rich colonists began to move out of the colonies to now compete on the open market with Russians in big towns. 5. One generation later, their children, urban and educated, started to intermarry with Russians. Marriage unions were now based in 'class', education, business ties and MONEY ... rather than village or German loyalties . ----------------- I am a great admirer of Dietz (and Alexei). [ See below] What Dietz says is of course true but takes a wide sweep, since nearly 95% all colonies had this function to be the buffer between the ever expanding Russian Empire. It did not only apply to the German colonies, although these were the most numerous. This method of expansion also applied to other nations' colonies, soldiers' colonies and of course the Cossack Host. Ditto Southern Russia. But this is not how the Russian peasant/serf saw it, who had no private land or farm. Russification, meaning Russian language taught in schools, took place, so the better educated children knew Russian well, and those who were sent off to higher education in the cities and universities came out bilingual. Once they completed university, they were automatically written out of the village commune and most found jobs and careers in cities, thus becoming bi-lingual and bi-cultural....quite a few them took Russian wives. These city GRs are the ones that did not emigrate to USA or keep "village roots", and you will not find them on this List. My family is a typical example of bi-lingual, bi-cultural Gr-Russians. The language and religion remained but links with villages were slowly loss from about 1890, as such families moved to Saratov to start competing in the open marketplace and better economic and career opportunities. By 1920, when a large number of GRs fled the revolution or the civil war or its immediate aftermaths to Berlin - children were sent off to bi-lingual Russian-German schools. I remain bi-lingual, bi-cultural 117 after grandpa left this village as a child, and some 90 yrs after grandparents left Russia. - ----------------- One GR son, from the (Saratov) Borel milling family, finished his education in St.Petersburg, and ended up as a officer in the white army and marrying the daughter (only child) of General Alexeev, leader of the White Army of the Civil War. Their daughter, who died recently in Buenos Aires, authored her father's biography. Few educated GRs chose to return to their villages, but settled near and around larger towns (including Dietz), where they were in a better position to pursue their careers - ---- Original Message ------ From:Lauren Brantner Sent:Friday, June 22, 2007 19:33 To: ger-volga@rootsweb.com; Subject:Re: [GV] Russian German Relationships If you get a chance to read Jacob Dietz's history that AHSGR recently published you will find his viewpoint:" The colonists, in spite of frequently expressed viewpoints, were not at all invited to Russia because of the German Empress Catherine's II's sympathy toward them. They were not in favorable conditions and their favor was not the goal of their invitation. Such an accusation is historically unreliable and politically unscrupulous. As we know from what the many manifestoes, circulars, and secret communications have shown us, the real reasons for the invitations of the Volga colonists were the settlement of empty lands, the drive to establish a natural buffer for the safety of Russia between the Kalmyk, Kirghiz and other wild tribes and to assert Russia's power over these areas. There was also the desire to raise the level of agriculture and industry by means of the immigration of enlightened Western Europeans. The Russian government did not favor the immigrants, but awaited favors from them to benefit the country. And this expectation was glowingly fulfilled." Further he comments, "Because of their colonies' destruction and their unhappiness, the colonists gave great service...through their blood and destruction the colonists purchased the peace of the Russian state." Our last AHSGR dinner speaker was the newly hired Coordinator of the German Russian International Program at Colorado State University, Dr. Alexi Kuraev-Maxah who is a Russian/German scholar here to participate in the exchange between CSU and Saratov State University. He indicated that Russian peasants had no brick churches, no schools, ate maybe 2 meals a year with meat in them, and lived really hard lives and had to serve in the military for many years. In their eyes, GR's had a lot more to eat, didn't have to serve in the military, could work their way up in life, etc. So naturally there was resentment that these "foreigners" had a better life, clean villages, educational opportunities etc. When asked about Catherine's motives in bringing in Germans, Maxah commented that above all Catherine was a very astute politician and that bringing in the Germans solved problems for her. If you look at her manifesto it asks for foreigners not Germans, he commented. If you look at the conditions in Europe when Germans left - they were facing really hard times because of all the wars that devastated the countryside. So --- not a pretty picture all the way around. If you look as a whole at the colonies - Germans kept their language, their culture, their religious practices intact. For there to be a large amount of interaction with the locals, someone had to learn another language.

Just want to let everyone know that we are re-doing the article links so that they just contain the page of the article and not the whole section of the paper. It does take a while to open some of these pdf files at this time, sorry for the confussion this may have brought on. Thanks to Sam Brungardt, we are working on this solution. If you have any more problems please let me know! Thanks Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net

Thank you so much for all of this priceless information concerning the above subject ! Charles Parcels < Weibert aus Messer > --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

Wyoming Tribune-Eagle Cheyenne, WY 23 Jun 2007 Robert Paul Edward Schliske, 82, a founder of Laramie County Community College and a former Wyoming legislator, died June 21 at the Davis Hospice Center. Born July 2, 1924, in a farmhouse east of Fort Dodge, Iowa, to Paul and Hattie Hansch Schliske, Mr. Schliske moved that same year to Carpenter, where he graduated from high school. During World War II he served in the Navy Air Corps as a radio operator. Mr. Schliske earned a bachelor's degree in agriculture education and a master's degree in educational administration from the University of Wyoming. Returning to Carpenter High School in 1950, Mr. Schliske taught vocational agriculture for 13 years and was adviser to its FFA chapter, which was selected best in Wyoming for eight years in a row and received a national gold emblem award twice. He holds the Wyoming State Farmer FFA degree. In 1963, Mr. Schliske moved to Cheyenne, where he worked for the state of Wyoming first as director of civil defense adult education and then as director of manpower development and training. In March 1969, Mr. Schliske became one of the first employees of Laramie County Community College, serving as dean of vocational-technical education and then as dean of instruction until his retirement in 1984. Mr. Schliske represented Laramie County in the Wyoming Legislature from 1971-75. From 1977-78, he served on the board of directors of the Greater Cheyenne Chamber of Commerce. He was a member of Ascension Lutheran Church, Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Legion and Cheyenne Airport Golf Club. Formerly, he was president of the Wyoming Vocational Agriculture Teachers Association and a member of Phi Delta Kappa, Alpha Tau Alpha, Civitan Club, Lions Club and the Wyoming Senior Golfers Association. Mr. Schliske enjoyed golfing, gardening, traveling, playing pool and cards, telling stories (some of them true) and making peanut brittle at Christmas for his many friends. In 1947, he married Helen Jean Konig of Grover, Colo., who died in 1976. In 1980, he married Rosalind Routt in Cheyenne. He was preceded in death by his parents; three brothers, Elmer, Hilbert and Ronald Schliske; and two sisters, Edna Gallina and Elsie Penwell. In addition to his wife, Rosalind, Mr. Schliske is survived by a son, Robert P. Schliske II, of Cheyenne; three daughters, Laura Wright of Cheyenne, Debra Rose of Lusk, and Chris Black of Greeley, Colo.; two sisters, Esther Hagemann of Denver, and Eleanor Romsa of Los Angeles; 10 grandchildren; and five great-grandchildren. Services will be held 1 p.m. Wednesday at Ascension Lutheran Church with Rev. Paul Everett officiating. Interment will follow at Cheyenne Memorial Gardens. Pallbearers will be grandsons, Brian Wright, Chad Rose, Brent Rose, Raymond Schliske and Aaron Adams, and sons-in-law, Richard Wright, Randy Rose and Sean Black. Those who prefer may contribute to the Robert and Rosalind Schliske Scholarship in care of the LCCC Foundation, 1400 E. College Drive, Cheyenne, WY 82007. Services are under the direction of Wiederspahn-Radomsky Chapel of the Chimes.

The Bender book tells the story of one unusally gifted VG who was well educated, went to University and rose to the rank of officer in the army and was dispatched to Paris on a diplomatic assignment. As he had a talent for language, he learned Russian and interacted well with his Russian neighbors. After his service he became mayor of Schuck. He was a competent administrator, and while his family acquired wealth, even after the revolution he was kept on as an administrator, partially because of his competence and partially because of his good relationship with the Russians. He remained in that post up until 1941 when he went underground when the deportation was becoming inevitable. However this was not a typical person, and his diplomatic , administrative relationship between the two groups was not the norm. Frank jacobs Topeka

If you get a chance to read Jacob Dietz's history that AHSGR recently published you will find his viewpoint:" The colonists, in spite of frequently expressed viewpoints, were not at all invited to Russia because of the German Empress Catherine's II's sympathy toward them. They were not in favorable conditions and their favor was not the goal of their invitation. Such an accusation is historically unreliable and politically unscrupulous. As we know from what the many manifestoes, circulars, and secret communications have shown us, the real reasons for the invitations of the Volga colonists were the settlement of empty lands, the drive to establish a natural buffer for the safety of Russia between the Kalmyk, Kirghiz and other wild tribes and to assert Russia's power over these areas. There was also the desire to raise the level of agriculture and industry by means of the immigration of enlightened Western Europeans. The Russian government did not favor the immigrants, but awaited favors from them to benefit the country. And this expectation was glowingly fulfilled." Further he comments, "Because of their colonies' destruction and their unhappiness, the colonists gave great service...through their blood and destruction the colonists purchased the peace of the Russian state." Our last AHSGR dinner speaker was the newly hired Coordinator of the German Russian International Program at Colorado State University, Dr. Alexi Kuraev-Maxah who is a Russian/German scholar here to participate in the exchange between CSU and Saratov State University. He indicated that Russian peasants had no brick churches, no schools, ate maybe 2 meals a year with meat in them, and lived really hard lives and had to serve in the military for many years. In their eyes, GR's had a lot more to eat, didn't have to serve in the military, could work their way up in life, etc. So naturally there was resentment that these "foreigners" had a better life, clean villages, educational opportunities etc. When asked about Catherine's motives in bringing in Germans, Maxah commented that above all Catherine was a very astute politician and that bringing in the Germans solved problems for her. If you look at her manifesto it asks for foreigners not Germans, he commented. If you look at the conditions in Europe when Germans left - they were facing really hard times because of all the wars that devastated the countryside. So --- not a pretty picture all the way around. If you look as a whole at the colonies - Germans kept their language, their culture, their religious practices intact. For there to be a large amount of interaction with the locals, someone had to learn another language. Lauren Brantner --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

Todays Science Friday Podcast has an article about DNA research. Gary Ubert http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/2007/Jun/hour2_062207.html Plus, we'll talk about putting the 'genes' into geneaology -- using DNA testing to trace your own family tree. Geneological research site Ancestry.com announced this week that it was teaming with a genetics lab to offer $200 genetic testing kits to try to help people trace their heritage.

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