Hi Marven,, I would like receiving the compilation also. This is great for you to do this. Thanks so much, Rosemary Larson larso260@tc.umn.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" <dakotamillers@rushmore.com> To: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: [GV] Compilation of stories about POWs Hello Marvin. Please add me to the list of folks to receive your compilation of stories shared about German POWs. And thanks for doing it! Larry Miller / Spearfish, SD dakotamillers@rushmore.com www.galeymiller.org www.blackhillsmonitor.blogspot.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unterdorf/index.html -----Original Message----- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:13:47 -0400 From: Marven C Weitzel <marvenw@juno.com> Subject: Re: [GV] POW's To: Okieraven@aol.com Cc: ger-volga@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070710.141347.1724.0.marvenw@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am an editor and have been compiling these letters in a desktop publisher. When I finish, I'll be glad to forward you a copy in a format you can use. Marven Weitzel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would also like to receive it too. Thanks jwelch3@verizon.net > > Marvin, > > Please add me to the list! > > Thanks! > > -- > > Kevin Rupp > 2301 Canal Blvd > Hays, Ks. 67601 > krupp@ruraltel.net > www.volgagerman.net > volgagerman@ruraltel.net > Sunflower Chapter > > > > > > > >> From: Thelma Mills <thelma.mills@gmail.com> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:39:15 -0700 >> To: <dakotamillers@rushmore.com> >> Cc: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Compilation of stories about POWs >> >> I also would like a copy - and thank you so much for gathering these >> stories. Thelma Mills >> >> On 7/11/07, Larry Miller <dakotamillers@rushmore.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Marvin. >>> >>> Please add me to the list of folks to receive your compilation of >>> stories >>> shared about German POWs. And thanks for doing it! >>> >>> Larry Miller / Spearfish, SD >>> dakotamillers@rushmore.com >>> www.galeymiller.org >>> www.blackhillsmonitor.blogspot.com >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unterdorf/index.html >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:13:47 -0400 >>> From: Marven C Weitzel <marvenw@juno.com> >>> Subject: Re: [GV] POW's >>> To: Okieraven@aol.com >>> Cc: ger-volga@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <20070710.141347.1724.0.marvenw@juno.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> I am an editor and have been compiling these letters in a desktop >>> publisher. When I finish, I'll be glad to forward you a copy in a >>> format >>> you can use. >>> >>> Marven Weitzel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.mariental-louis.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 > 5:44 PM > >

Hellow Marvin, Please add me to the list of folks to receive your compilation of stories shared about German POWs. And my thanks for doing it. Henry L. Schmick, Sheridan, WY hschmick@wavecom.net ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

I also would like a copy - and thank you so much for gathering these stories. Thelma Mills On 7/11/07, Larry Miller <dakotamillers@rushmore.com> wrote: > > Hello Marvin. > > Please add me to the list of folks to receive your compilation of stories > shared about German POWs. And thanks for doing it! > > Larry Miller / Spearfish, SD > dakotamillers@rushmore.com > www.galeymiller.org > www.blackhillsmonitor.blogspot.com > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unterdorf/index.html > > -----Original Message----- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:13:47 -0400 > From: Marven C Weitzel <marvenw@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] POW's > To: Okieraven@aol.com > Cc: ger-volga@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20070710.141347.1724.0.marvenw@juno.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am an editor and have been compiling these letters in a desktop > publisher. When I finish, I'll be glad to forward you a copy in a format > you can use. > > Marven Weitzel > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.mariental-louis.com/

Hello Marvin. Please add me to the list of folks to receive your compilation of stories shared about German POWs. And thanks for doing it! Larry Miller / Spearfish, SD dakotamillers@rushmore.com www.galeymiller.org www.blackhillsmonitor.blogspot.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unterdorf/index.html -----Original Message----- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:13:47 -0400 From: Marven C Weitzel <marvenw@juno.com> Subject: Re: [GV] POW's To: Okieraven@aol.com Cc: ger-volga@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070710.141347.1724.0.marvenw@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am an editor and have been compiling these letters in a desktop publisher. When I finish, I'll be glad to forward you a copy in a format you can use. Marven Weitzel

Billings Gazette Billings, MT 11 Jul 2007 LAUREL - Anna Mary (Gross) Hergett died Monday, July 10, 2007, at St. Vincent Hospital, Billings. Anna was born in Edgar on March 5, 1915, to George Gross Sr. and Sara (Herman) Gross. She was the youngest child in a family of six children. Anna married Richard Hergett on March 3, 1935, in Park City. Anna was a homemaker and her husband, children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren were very important to her. She was an excellent cook and the family enjoyed her fried chicken, apple strudel and apple pies. She was a very organized person and everything was in its place. She thoroughly enjoyed taking pictures and placing them in her many photo albums. Some of her favorite times were when she and Richard went fishing and camping and she caught "The Biggest Fish!" Anna was a member of St. John's Lutheran Church. Anna is survived by her husband, Richard, of 72 years; her four children, Betty (Henry) Lich, Laurel, Joanne (Richard) Nauman, Park City, Janice (Robert) Armstrong, Libby, and Gerald (Sharon) Hergett, Laurel. She is survived by 11 grandchildren, LaRay Mears, Alan (Dana) Lich, Wanda (Jason) Richardson, Rich (Shelly) Nauman, Russ (Robbin) Nauman, Rod (Valerie) Nauman, Alison (Terry) Jacobs, Bill (Robin) Armstrong Jr., Guy (Jan) Armstrong, Gregg Hergett and Garry (Lisa) Hergett. Anna is also survived by 29 great-grandchildren, Stephanie (Loren) Schrag, Amanda Mears, Randi and Sydney Lich, Lindsay, Courtney, Ashley and Jeffrey Richardson, Cal and Megan Nauman, Whitney and Chad Nauman, Alyssa, Shane and Daniel Nauman, Mitchell, Rebecca, Marshall and Benjamin Jacobs, Danielle, Michael and Taylor Armstrong, Amybeth, Courtney, Brant, and Chase Armstrong; Jarred, Brandon and Carly Hergett. Anna was preceded in death by her parents; sisters Sara, Annie and Katherine; and brothers, Mike and George Jr. Rest in peace, our loved one, we love you and will miss you. Funeral services for Anna Mary (Gross) Hergett, 92, will be at 2 p.m. Thursday, July 12, at St. John's Lutheran Church, 417 W. Ninth St., Laurel. Memorials may be made to St. John's Lutheran Church, PO Box 185, Laurel, MT 59044. Interment will be in the Laurel Cemetery. Casket bearers will be her eight grandsons, Alan Lich, Richard Nauman, Jr., Russell Nauman, Rodney Nauman, Robert Armstrong, Jr., Guy Armstrong, Greggory Hergett, Garry Hergett and honorary casket bearers will be Loren Schrag and Jason Richardson. Smith Funeral Chapel-Laurel was in charge of arrangements.

Did a quick search for German POWs in Montana and found this link to the Montana Magazine of Western History from the Montana Historical Society which has the article on line. You can read the entire story entitled, "Unlikely Harvest" at---- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3951/is_200010/ai_n8903727/pg_1 Don in Montana City

I grew up near Torrington, Wyoming on a sugar beet farm. We got our German POWs from the Camp at Veteran, WY. Dad would drive our truck with a slide-in A-Frame to Veteran to pick them up each morning, the guard would ride up front with Dad. The A-Frame kept them out of the weather. The route to the camp was along a large irrigation canal, one of our neighbors, drove off into the canal and one or two POWs drowned in the strong undertow. They would bring their food in large pots, Mom would heat their food and give them a couple of loafs of home made bread. They would give us candy bars and cigarettes (my uncle smoked). The guard would eat with us. While the POWs were working, the guard would sleep in a haystack. We had a lot of rabbits in our pasture, on one occasion the POWs borrowed the guards M-1 Carbine and shot a couple of rabbits which they took back to the camp and ate. My Dad, Grandpa & Uncle spoke German well. The POWs were amazed that we had such small farm houses and such large fields. In Goshen County, we had camps at Lingle, Torrington, & Veteran. Henry L. Schmick ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

In Michigan there was a group of POWs kept in a camp near Croswell. My grandfather grew peas and the German POWs worked in the pea vinery, where they brought in the freshly cut pea vines which were then podded mechanically. They lugged boxes of fresh peas and worked on the stack for the used pea vines. My dad could speak German and talked with them nearly every load we took there. They were very happy to be here and not being shot at. They remarked that they had good food and most people treated them with respect. There were a couple narrow minded people who thought my dad shouldn't talk to them. I was probably only 8 or 9 years old but can remember them smiling and happy when my dad was talking to them.

I grew up near Wiggins, Colorado on a farm and my father had German war prisoners working on our farm also. They were housed in barracks right off of then highway 6 in the middle of our small town. A Rocky Mountain News columnist, Mike Rudeen in his column "Ask" today had replies to a reader request asking where these prisoners were kept. Answers popped up all over the State of Colorado. The prisoners were kept all over the state from 1944 to 1946 and worked on farms in the eastern part of the state as well as in the Grand Valley on our western slope where the fruit industry is located. This reader indicated that the troublemakers had been weeded out and that security was light and that many returned to visit Colorado after the war. One reader who responded worked at a POW camp at Camp Hale. Camp Hale was the home of the elite 10th Mountain Division which formed & trained in Colorado mountains. This is not farm or orchard country - so I don't what that particular group was about. One responder spoke of a young POW who sang Silent Night in a stunning tenor "with such passion that it brought tears to people's eyes" in a midnight mass in Fraser, Colorado. Another person spoke of a POW who saved his mother from rattlesnake bite on the eastern plains near Sterling, Colorado. Another spoke of feeding the prisoners. For more memories go to the Ask!blog at blogs.RockyMountainNews.com/denver/ask. There is one prisoner who returned after WWII to marry the farmer's daughter near Windsor, Colorado. Lauren Brantner --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

Hoy hoy! A fine day to all! The anecdotes of the interaction of POWs and farmers in the States is most enlightening...an extension of a broader and historical culture. A wee view from the other side of the equation....from families who were reluctant to admit their ancestors were Germans from Russia. My dad's parents emigrated from Bangert, just south of Saratov and near the western banks of the Volga River. Arriving in Canada in 1898, they began farming the next year at Lydiatt (Eugenfeld, St. Owens) in Manitoba. There were 8 sons and 5 daughters. None of the sons ever spoke of their ancestral links to Russia or Germany. Not politically correct during W W II. My dad, when pressed, would say the family was from Austria, or Transylvania in Romania. And that was it. The children of that generation knew their parents had taken some German in school in Manitoba, and that the German was the main language at many family functions. Only Aunt Elsie mentioned her parents came from the Volga region of Russia, and before that (1764) from the Black Forest area of Germany. She wrote letters in German to Huber, Otto, and Steinhauer relatives in the Volga area until the 1920s when she no longer received replies. Aunt Elsie Huber married Ernie Meyer emigrated from Germany to Canada in 1926. He was considered a natural resource on the home front as a farmer, but during W W II, he had to report to the RCMP (the Canadian Mounties) every week. May the runzas be with you, der Schnickelfritz, Cliff Huber

Hello all: In the early or mid 1940s my dad worked at the U.S. Army Air Base c. five miles west of Great Bend, KS. Sometimes he would tell about having been called in to translate what German POWS were saying. Evidently they were being transported to points west, i.e. CO, NM, WY etc. Where they came from, I do not know, but they were probably some of the Afrika Kor.ps. Laurin Wilhelm in San Antonio ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am an editor and have been compiling these letters in a desktop publisher. When I finish, I'll be glad to forward you a copy in a format you can use. Marven Weitzel On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:44:12 EDT Okieraven@aol.com writes: > The many POW stories are fascinating. Do any of us have an editorial > talent > that would allow the compiling of these memories into an article for > the > AHSGR Journal? The 2009 AHSGR convention will be held in Medicine > Hat, Alberta > Canada on the site of a WWII German POW camp. Do any of you have any > > recollections of the camps in Canada? > > Glenn Barker > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The many POW stories are fascinating. Do any of us have an editorial talent that would allow the compiling of these memories into an article for the AHSGR Journal? The 2009 AHSGR convention will be held in Medicine Hat, Alberta Canada on the site of a WWII German POW camp. Do any of you have any recollections of the camps in Canada? Glenn Barker ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I sent one of the earlier emails about the prisoners complaining about being fed "pig feed". I hope that I didn't imply that they were ungrateful. The story represented a cultural difference and the fact that sweet corn as human food was unknown in Germany at that time. The prisoners who worked for my father were terribly grateful and really enjoyed working for him. They were especially appreciative that he could speak German with them and explain a few of the local customs. My father usually spent every noon hour visiting with them. The prisoners consisted of two separate groups, the first being those captured in North Africa by the British and a second smaller group of pilots who were shot down over England. The two groups didn't interact since they came from two different levels of society in Germany. The pilots were better educated, usually with college training and were tall and very physically fit. They were the elite of the German forces, especially the fighter pilots. It seemed that we got pilots to work for us when the potatoes were being graded, bagged, weighed and loaded on a truck. I was so impressed with the pilots when they would carry a hundred pound bag of potatoes under each arm and throw them up on the bed of the truck. They worked much harder than expected. I think that it was a matter of pride with them. The prisoners didn't have to work when it rained or was too wet to work in the fields. They could do other jobs only if they wished and volunteered. One damp day my father decided to dig a trench 900 feet long to install a water line connecting two houses. The prisoners were so fond of my father that about 35 of them volunteered and they dug the water line about 5 feet deep in one day and stayed until appx. 8 in the evening until it was finished, even though my father offered to take them back to camp at 5:00. That water line is still in use today. Incidentally, my father came to the U.S. from Schultz, Russia in 1903 at the age of 9. My fondest childhood memories are of him telling stories of life back in Russia and the trip to the U.S. Ward Richter -----Original Message----- From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carla Wills-Brandon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:24 AM To: rick.d.anderson@exgate.tek.com; ger-volga@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GV] POW's I couldn't agree with you more Rick. The only information I really had about POW stories came from a few children of Nazis. Hearing about how GRs had contact with POWs in the states has been a real education. Thank-you everyone. Carla rick.d.anderson@exgate.tek.com wrote: Thank you to all who are sharing their personal or hand-down POW stories. They are GREAT! As someone who came after this era, these stories are priceless. --------------- Rick D. Anderson (rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com) Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, OR 503-627-2630 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Carla Wills-Brandon, Ph.D. www.carlawillsbrandon.com Death is just a bus stop before the next trip! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Before the German POW camp was built just west of Greeley we had Italian POW's who were house in an old school in Greeley. They worked sugar beets at our farm also. I do not know what happened to the Italian POW's but a year or two lter they were go and we used the German POW's. We were assigned the same group of Italian POW's every day all summer. We got to know them quite well. However we were assigned a different group of German POW's almost every day. Dad said he was told by the army that they did not want us to develop a close relationship with any of the individual German POW's. I still have letters that were received from both Italian and German POW's after the war and they went back home. Ron Greenwald --- Original Message ----- From: Charles Parcels<mailto:volgager4440@yahoo.com> To: ger-volga@rootsweb.com<mailto:ger-volga@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [GV] German P.O.W's. U.S. farmers helped make the German P.O.W's lives more bareable, because of one thing, COMPASSION Had they been Italian P.O.W's., they would have been treated the same way. Sadly, in today's world we no longer posess, nor practice this precious gift . " A gentile man with a beard tried to teach us this over 2000 years ago, but unfortunatly it is not being practiced much any more. " My father gave a cigarette to a Japanese prisoner on the island of Saipan during w.w.2, & was ostracized by his fellow Marines for it. This act , to me, is what really seperates the men from the boys ! Charles Parcels < Weibert aus Messer > --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's a few links for those interested in POW camps Camp Clinton, MS http://www.kilroywashere.org/004-Pages/JAN-Area/04-D-Jackson-POW.html Camp Hearn, TX http://nautarch.tamu.edu/anth/waters/ Greely, CO http://library.ci.fort-collins.co.us/local_history/topics/wwii/hist3b18.htm These are just a few I've found. I'm sure you can turn up more on a Google search for German POW Camp Allan R. Lenhardt 240 East Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70806 (225) 344-1424 (225) 223-3121 (cell) Life is God's novel. Let him write it. Isaac Beshevis Singer in Voices for Life (1975) -----Original Message----- From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sam Brungardt Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:25 AM To: GER-VOLGA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GV] Ungrateful German POWs At peak times of farmwork, my dad used to drive to the Fort Hays Agricultural Experiment Station in Hays, Kan., and pick up a few POWs to help out on our farm. (I think these POWs were actually from Hastings, Neb., having been reassigned to various places, such as Hays, where farmers needed help. However, I don't remember dad saying anything about a guard accompanying them when he brought them out to our farm. At any rate, I think the disdain some POW's voiced for certain foods was generated by their experiences in POW camps before they were transported to the USA. One Friday my mother and her sister-in-law, knowing they had these special "guests" to feed, seined the draws on our farm and came up with quite a few fish and crayfish. They fried the fish and boiled the crayfish and served them with egg noodles that had been cooked and then fried in butter and a bowl of Great Northern beans. Upon seeing these treats on the dining table, the POW's registered their disdain and said that all they'd gotten to eat when they were POWs in England was "Fisch und Wassernudel." My mom and my aunt were very disappointed, having done their best to offer the POWs what we considered some of our favorite foods. And believe me, in those days fresh fish was a rare treat in western Kansas. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn. _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An excellent point. It is unfortunate that those serving in both houses of the U.S. Congress have clouded our minds with the "Iraq War" in place of what it really is and that is a "War on Terror". I only wish they would get their priorities straight and become more accountable to the citizens of these United States before it is too late. My thoughts are, and always will be, that at least half of them ought to be tried for treason. Don Loose Warren, Mich. On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:32 AM, Okieraven@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/9/2007 3:10:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > aweber35@sbcglobal.net writes: > > As interesting as all of these German prisoner stories are, > personally, it > sounds like they were as ungrateful as our prisoner's of today, > expecting > the 'best' and forgetting 'they are prisoners'. > Ann Weber > > > Ann, please do not forget that these German POWs were honorable > men detained > by the Allies for serving in their country's military. They were not > criminals and had broken no laws. We were required by international > treaty (Geneva > Convention) to treat them humanly. If they felt they were not > being given > proper treatment they had a right to complain. The "prisoners of > today" you > mention I believe are the detainees from the war on terror. These > men are not > serving in any country's military but are the equivalent of street > gangs and > thugs. They act from hate and follow none of the rules of war that > govern the > actions of honorable military members. Please do not equate these > terrorists > with the Honorable men in the POW camps of the WW II era. That > mistake would > insult anyone who has worn a uniform and served their country > anywhere. > > Glenn E. Barker > MSgt USAF (ret.) and proud GR spouse > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http:// > www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

U.S. farmers helped make the German P.O.W's lives more bareable, because of one thing, COMPASSION Had they been Italian P.O.W's., they would have been treated the same way. Sadly, in today's world we no longer posess, nor practice this precious gift . " A gentile man with a beard tried to teach us this over 2000 years ago, but unfortunatly it is not being practiced much any more. " My father gave a cigarette to a Japanese prisoner on the island of Saipan during w.w.2, & was ostracized by his fellow Marines for it. This act , to me, is what really seperates the men from the boys ! Charles Parcels < Weibert aus Messer > --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

In a message dated 7/9/2007 3:10:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, aweber35@sbcglobal.net writes: As interesting as all of these German prisoner stories are, personally, it sounds like they were as ungrateful as our prisoner's of today, expecting the 'best' and forgetting 'they are prisoners'. Ann Weber Ann, please do not forget that these German POWs were honorable men detained by the Allies for serving in their country's military. They were not criminals and had broken no laws. We were required by international treaty (Geneva Convention) to treat them humanly. If they felt they were not being given proper treatment they had a right to complain. The "prisoners of today" you mention I believe are the detainees from the war on terror. These men are not serving in any country's military but are the equivalent of street gangs and thugs. They act from hate and follow none of the rules of war that govern the actions of honorable military members. Please do not equate these terrorists with the Honorable men in the POW camps of the WW II era. That mistake would insult anyone who has worn a uniform and served their country anywhere. Glenn E. Barker MSgt USAF (ret.) and proud GR spouse ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.